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Ananias and Sapphira

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Why does God kill both Ananias and Sapphira in the Book of Acts? It seems rather cruel and selfish. Here you have a husband and wife who are newly minted Christians, sell their land and willingly give a part of the proceeds to the fledgling church. And what do they get for it? A horrible death and a not very understanding St. Peter judging them. This story seems strange to me. It seems perfectly reasonable that they should keep part of the proceeds - they have earthly needs too don't they - they have to eat, have a roof over their heads, etc.

The church - historically - has asked for 10% of ones income - not ALL of it. And is was always voluntary - from the beginning. What did these two people do that was so wrong to be so condemded? And whatever it was, why were they not given a chance to atone for whatever their sins were?
 

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Those whose hearts are filled with the love of Christ, will follow the example of Him who for our sake became poor, that through His poverty we might be made rich. Money, time, influence--all the gifts they have received from God's hand, they will value only as a means of advancing the work of the gospel. Thus it was in the early church; and when in the church of today it is seen that by the power of the Spirit the members have taken their affections from the things of the world, and that they are willing to make sacrifices in order that their fellow men may hear the gospel, the truths proclaimed will have a powerful influence upon the hearers.

In sharp contrast to the example of benevolence shown by the believers, was the conduct of Ananias and Sapphira, whose experience, traced by the pen of Inspiration, has left a dark stain upon the history of the early church. With others, these professed disciples had shared the privilege of hearing the gospel preached by the apostles. They had been present with other believers when, after the apostles had prayed, "the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost." Acts 4:31. Deep conviction had rested upon all present, and under the direct influence of the Spirit of God, Ananias and Sapphira had made a pledge to give to the Lord the proceeds from the sale of certain property.

Afterward, Ananias and Sapphira grieved the Holy Spirit by yielding to feelings of covetousness. They began to regret their promise and soon lost the sweet influence of the blessing that had warmed their hearts with a desire to do large things in behalf of the cause of Christ. They thought they had been too hasty, that they ought to reconsider their decision. They talked the matter over, and decided not to fulfill their pledge. They saw, however, that those who parted with their possessions to supply the needs of their poorer brethren, were held in high esteem among the believers; and ashamed to have their brethren know that their selfish souls grudged that which they had solemnly dedicated to God, they deliberately decided to sell their property and pretend to give all the proceeds into the general fund, but really to keep a large share for themselves. Thus they would secure their living from the common store and at the same time gain the high esteem of their brethren.

But God hates hypocrisy and falsehood. Ananias and Sapphira practiced fraud in their dealing with God; they lied to the Holy Spirit, and their sin was visited with swift and terrible judgment. When Ananias came with his offering, Peter said: "Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God."

"Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things."

"Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?" Peter asked. No undue influence had been brought to bear upon Ananias to compel him to sacrifice his possessions to the general good. He had acted from choice. But in attempting to deceive the disciples, he had lied to the Almighty.

"It was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things."

Infinite Wisdom saw that this signal manifestation of the wrath of God was necessary to guard the young church from becoming demoralized. Their numbers were rapidly increasing. The church would have been endangered if, in the rapid increase of converts, men and women had been added who, while professing to serve God, were worshiping mammon. This judgment testified that men cannot deceive God, that He detects the hidden sin of the heart, and that He will not be mocked. It was designed as a warning to the church, to lead them to avoid pretense and hypocrisy, and to beware of robbing God.

Not to the early church only, but to all future generations, this example of God's hatred of covetousness, fraud, and hypocrisy, was given as a danger-signal. It was covetousness that Ananias and Sapphira had first cherished. The desire to retain for themselves a part of that which they had promised to the Lord, led them into fraud and hypocrisy.

In the case of Ananias and Sapphira, the sin of fraud against God was speedily punished. The same sin was often repeated in the after history of the church and is committed by many in our time. But though it may not be attended by the visible manifestation of God's displeasure, it is no less heinous in His sight now than in the apostles' time. The warning has been given; God has clearly manifested His abhorrence of this sin; and all who give themselves up to hypocrisy and covetousness may be sure that they are destroying their own souls.
 
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That was a good post, 1John5:3!

I think we are going to see more of that type of judgement as these days draw to a close...after all, judgement always starts in the church, then it goes outside of the church and spreads throughout the general population...What I mean by that is, the frauds will be exposed and all of the sinners will see with their eyes who the fake christians are, even down to the local level, and real soon it seems like...Then,
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we will hear that trumpet blow!!!
 
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Where in Acts does it say GOD killed them?

I do not believe Ananias and Sapphira were Christians either.

The Bible says "a certain man named Ananias..."

it also says Ac 9:10 "And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias;" -- 2 different Ananias

Usu. the Bible does not refer to the brethren/believers as "a certain man".
 
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Another interpretation could be, that they where converted christians (why would they be required to give if not) but as many of us experiance it, only partially converted, only allowed to see a fragment of God, because of what was in thier hearts keeping them from being fully converted.

This is my experiance and I beleive the experiance of many.

When confronted with thier sin by peter, they died of guilt and shame and with a contrite spirit they are now in heaven.

What do you think.
 
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christianbeginning said:
Why does God kill both Ananias and Sapphira in the Book of Acts? It seems rather cruel and selfish. Here you have a husband and wife who are newly minted Christians, sell their land and willingly give a part of the proceeds to the fledgling church. And what do they get for it? A horrible death and a not very understanding St. Peter judging them. This story seems strange to me. It seems perfectly reasonable that they should keep part of the proceeds - they have earthly needs too don't they - they have to eat, have a roof over their heads, etc.

The church - historically - has asked for 10% of ones income - not ALL of it. And is was always voluntary - from the beginning. What did these two people do that was so wrong to be so condemded? And whatever it was, why were they not given a chance to atone for whatever their sins were?
The Holy Spirit killed them, not Peter. They weren't necessarily new Christians. And they faced the judgment because they lied to God--twice!

God metes out the judgment and punishment that He decides is most just. Aparently for Annais and Sapphira, death was justice.
 
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super slug,

I do not believe they were Christians at all. All kinds of people go to church. that does not make them Christians, anymore than going to MacDonald's makes you a Big Mac or walking into a garage makes you a car.

Again, as mentioned, the Bible seldom refers to believers as "a certain man". that's just not the Holy Spirit's style of writing. it is usu brethren, or beloved, or disciple or believers.

Probably, the couple heard of the great church where great things/miracles were happening. They wanted to be part of the membership and thot they could buy their way in...etc. That's just my opinion.

But its true that when there's a good church and things are happening, it attracts all sorts of attention and people. :)

ps: I would also caution against accusing God or the Holy Spirit of killing the couple becos of the NC verse:

Joh 10:10 The thief [not God] cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Lest we falsely accuse the Spirit or God, l will not say that God or his Spirit killed them when the passage says no such thing in the first place.
 
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Andrew,

I agree they did not die at the hand of God or the Holy spirit. But then what did kill them.

Also I am confused, firstly why would anyone align themselves with this persecuted church unless they really believed and secoundly why would they be required give if they had not made such a commitment.

A more likely reason for the certain man terminology being used is that Luke did not want ananias to be associated with the bretheren after this had happened. But if this was the case why wasnt it made more clear, like using a sinner or false brother.

I still think the interpretation I gave some posts ago fits. But as usual I could be wrong.
 
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First, lets clear up the errors that we see in this question and in some of the responses.

Ananias and Sapphira were not, nor was anyone else, required to sell their possesions, nor required to give anything at all to the apostles.
God did not kill them, nor did Peter.
Tithing is not nor ever was a command to Christians.

Ananias and Sapphira may have been new Christians. The text does not say one way or the other, but certainly they were or had recently been, Jewish. They had been brought up under Jewish law and were quite familiar with the many severe penalties of disobeying the laws. Peter pointed out their sin of covetiousness but never said they would be punished for it. My feeling is that had they simply admitted thier sin, Peter would have forgiven them.They never admitted they had sinned, never repented and perhaps misunderstood that this is what Peter was trying to get them to do. They did not understand the New Covenant of Love and Forgivness through Jesus Christ and clung to the Law of Sin and Death.
God did not punish Ananias and Sapphira, they simply and literally scared themselves to death.
 
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Hi Pete S - they are not errors at all....

"Ananias and Sapphira were not, nor was anyone else, required to sell their possesions, nor required to give anything at all to the apostles."

While it does not say that they were REQUIRED to sell anything, it does say that they did not give all of the money that they got for the land, held some back, and that made them not nice in the eyes of God.

The text also does set the environment - telling how others had given money, etc to the fledgling church...


"God did not kill them, nor did Peter."

Well, the thrust of the Holy Scriptures is that nothing happens that is not from God - nothing in the New Testament happens without God's intervention and wil. Nothing - so them being "killed" or dying was well within Gods will and plans.

"Tithing is not nor ever was a command to Christians. "

The word "tithing" (ten) specifically refers to giving 10% of ones income - it has been a tradition of Western Christiandom for a very very long time. So giving 10% (tithing) is not specifically mentioned in the Bible, helping others and giving of your possessions is.
 
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