An in depth look at The Ten Commandments

[Leaf473]

And it is the EX 20 commandments that end up in the ark as Deut 4 and 5 remind us -- 40 years later.

Well... The Exodus 20 tablets get broken. So it's the Exodus 34 tablets that end up in the ark, it looks to me.

 

[BobRyan]

Well... The Exodus 20 tablets get broken.

But the Exodus 20 words don't get deleted.

So then Deut 4 and 5 point out that it is the words spoken that are preserved and still to be regarded 40 years later.

Even in Ex 34 the text says clearly it is the same as the Exodus 20 set of words that are written.

Ex 34

1."cut two tables of stone like unto the first: and I (God) will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables... 28 And he (God) wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments"

There is apparently an "edit" of Ex 34 by "some" so get it to say "do NOT write on these tables the words that were on the first tables"... and then "God wrote something other than the ten commandments already given previously"

 

[Leaf473]

But the Exodus 20 words don't get deleted.

So then Deut 4 and 5 point out that it is the words spoken that are preserved and still to be regarded 40 years later.

Even in Ex 34 the text says clearly it is the same as the Exodus 20 set of words that are written.

Ex 34

1."cut two tables of stone like unto the first: and I (God) will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables... 28 And he (God) wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments"

There is apparently an "edit" of Ex 34 by "some" so get it to say "do NOT write on these tables the words that were on the first tables"... and then "God wrote something other than the ten commandments already given previously"

That's right, The Exodus 20 words don't get deleted.

In Deuteronomy 5, the words are slightly different.

Exodus 34 says it's the same words as Exodus 20, and then tells us what those words are. And they're somewhat different from Exodus 20.

God tells Moses to write these words (Exodus 34) and Moses wrote those words on the two tablets of stone.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

That's right, The Exodus 20 words don't get deleted.

In Deuteronomy 5, the words are slightly different.

Exodus 34 says it's the same words as Exodus 20, and then tells us what those words are. And they're somewhat different from Exodus 20.

God tells Moses to write these words (Exodus 34) and Moses wrote those words on the two tablets of stone.

They are slightly different because God is speaking directly in Exodus 20. In Deuteronomy 5, Moses is repeating what God spoke and God wrote. The only commandments written on stone are found in Exodus 20. God spoke them and God wrote them with His own finger. Exodus 31:18. The commandments were re-written exactly as the first according to scripture. Deuteronomy 10:4

 

[Leaf473]

They are slightly different because God is speaking directly in Exodus 20. In Deuteronomy 5, Moses is repeating what God spoke and God wrote. The only commandments written on stone are found in Exodus 20. God spoke them and God wrote them with His own finger. Exodus 31:18. The commandments were re-written exactly as the first according to scripture. Deuteronomy 10:4

Moses didn't accurately repeat what God spoke and wrote? That's an interesting approach.

The tablets from Exodus 20 get smashed, I believe. So the tablets that end up in the ark must be the ones from Exodus 34, aren't they?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Moses didn't accurately repeat what God spoke and wrote? That's an interesting approach.

Please do not put words in my mouth. There is no difference in meanings between what God wrote/spoke and Moses repeated. It’s typical when one repeats something from someone else a word or two is changed. Moses did not change any of the meanings of what God spoke and what God wrote.

The tablets from Exodus 20 get smashed, I believe. So the tablets that end up in the ark must be the ones from Exodus 34, aren't they?

If you believe Deuteronomy 10:4 It was rewritten exactly as the first which is what is in the the ark of the covenant written by the finger of God. Exodus 31:18

 

[Leaf473]

Please do not put words in my mouth. There is no difference in meanings between what God wrote/spoke and Moses repeated. It’s typical when one repeats something from someone else a word or two is changed. Moses did not change any of the meanings of what God spoke and what God wrote.


If you believe Deuteronomy 10:4 It was rewritten exactly as the first which is what is in the the ark of the covenant written by the finger of God. Exodus 31:18

Right, I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth.

So...
for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy.

means the same thing as

You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out of there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.
?
If that's what you're saying, then cool! That will give the Holy Spirit lots of room to guide us in keeping the Sabbath.

______________
I do believe everything written about the second set of tablets saying the same thing as first.

I also believe this from Exodus 34
"Write these words"
and
"He (Moses) wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Right, I certainly don't want to put words in your mouth.

So...
for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy.

means the same thing as

You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out of there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.

This is Moses saying to the Israelites You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt and reminding them God commanded them to keep the Sabbath as God stated in the commandment and all the other commandments of God that God both spoke and wrote.

If that's what you're saying, then cool! That will give the Holy Spirit lots of room to guide us in keeping the Sabbath.

There is only one Truth in scriptures and I think God makes it pretty clear how we should keep His day holy. Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13.

I do believe everything written about the second set of tablets saying the same thing as first.

I also believe this from Exodus 34
"Write these words"
and
"He (Moses) wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."

Moses did not write the Ten Commandments, God did with His own finger. Exodus 31:18.

Exodus 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

 

[Leaf473]

This is Moses saying to the Israelites You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt and reminding them God commanded them to keep the Sabbath as God stated in the commandment and all the other commandments of God that God both spoke and wrote.

Right! Does it mean the same thing as the Exodus 20 version?

There is only one Truth in scriptures and I think God makes it pretty clear how we should keep His day holy. Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13.

Well, those scriptures plus a whole lot more!

Moses did not write the Ten Commandments, God did with His own finger. Exodus 31:18.

Exodus 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

After looking at the commentaries, I agree that God wrote on the second tablets of stone, Exodus 34:1. Apparently that's allowable in the Hebrew idiom for those pronouns.

That makes the situation all the more interesting. It says he wrote the words of the covenant. To me, there's a strong implication that the Covenant is Exodus 34, at least at that point in time.

"Behold, I make a covenant: before all your people I will do marvels, such as have not been worked in all the earth."

"The Lord said to Moses, “Write these words; for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.”"

"He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Right! Does it mean the same thing as the Exodus 20 version?

Well, those scriptures plus a whole lot more!

After looking at the commentaries, I agree that God wrote on the second tablets of stone, Exodus 34:1. Apparently that's allowable in the Hebrew idiom for those pronouns.

That makes the situation all the more interesting. It says he wrote the words of the covenant. To me, there's a strong implication that the Covenant is Exodus 34, at least at that point in time.

"Behold, I make a covenant: before all your people I will do marvels, such as have not been worked in all the earth."

"The Lord said to Moses, “Write these words; for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.”"

"He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."

You’re free to believe that the Ten Commandment are anything but what is found in Exodus 20, but it’s not what I believe or what the scriptures teach.

Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 20 - New King James Version

The Ten Commandments

20 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Jesus when He told us to keep the commandments for eternal life and was asked ‘which ones’ quoted directly from Exodus 20. Matthew 19:17-19 and again when saying to keep the least of the commandments quoted directly from the Ten Matthew 5:19-30.

James also quotes directly from the Ten in Exodus 20 when saying you break one of the commandments it is like breaking them all and we will be judged by the Commandments. James 2:10-12

Paul also quotes directly from the Ten when defining what sin is Romans 7:7 and again Ephesians 6:2 stating the first commandment with a promise.

All of the Ten Commandments have been repeated in the New Testament for everyday Christian living.

God said right in the Ten that He shows mercy to those who love Him and keep His commandments which is a theme throughout the entire bible. Exodus 20:9

I believe in the scriptures, but we all have free will to believe what we want.

Signing out. God bless and take care.

 

[Leaf473]

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[Akita Suggagaki]

18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, at the time appointed in the month Abib; for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.

19 All that openeth the womb is mine; and all thy cattle that is male, the firstlings of cow and sheep.

20 And the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break its neck. All the first-born of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.

21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in plowing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, [even] of the first-fruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

23 Three times in the year shall all thy males appear before the Lord Jehovah, the God of Israel.

Lets keep them all.

 

[Leaf473]

You’re free to believe that the Ten Commandment are anything but what is found in Exodus 20, but it’s not what I believe or what the scriptures teach.

Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 20 - New King James Version

The Ten Commandments

20 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Jesus when He told us to keep the commandments for eternal life and was asked ‘which ones’ quoted directly from Exodus 20. Matthew 19:17-19 and again when saying to keep the least of the commandments quoted directly from the Ten Matthew 5:19-30.

James also quotes directly from the Ten in Exodus 20 when saying you break one of the commandments it is like breaking them all and we will be judged by the Commandments. James 2:10-12

Paul also quotes directly from the Ten when defining what sin is Romans 7:7 and again Ephesians 6:2 stating the first commandment with a promise.

All of the Ten Commandments have been repeated in the New Testament for everyday Christian living.

God said right in the Ten that He shows mercy to those who love Him and keep His commandments which is a theme throughout the entire bible. Exodus 20:9

I believe in the scriptures, but we all have free will to believe what we want.

Signing out. God bless and take care.

________________________

Signing out. God bless and take care.

May the Lord bless you and keep you.

 

[daq]

18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, at the time appointed in the month Abib; for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.

19 All that openeth the womb is mine; and all thy cattle that is male, the firstlings of cow and sheep.

20 And the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break its neck. All the first-born of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.

21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in plowing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, [even] of the first-fruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

23 Three times in the year shall all thy males appear before the Lord Jehovah, the God of Israel.

Lets keep them all.

Don't forget all the N/T commandments too.

Luke 14:25-35 KJV
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,
30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?
35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Speaking of salt:

Mark 9:43-50 KJV
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
50 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

Speaking of where their worm dies not and their fire is not quenched:

Isaiah 66:17-24 KJV
17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.
20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.
21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Speaking of a new heavens and new earth.......

 

[Leaf473]

Speaking of a new heavens and new earth......

How do you believe the first born will be redeemed (from Exodus 34) then?

 

[daq]

How do you believe the first born will be redeemed (from Exodus 34) then?

Don't cause your sons and daughters to pass through the fire: the one who slaughters an ox slays a man, (Isaiah 66:3). Better make sure you have your understanding correct according to the scripture: choose life, as the Torah says.

 

[Leaf473]

Don't cause your sons and daughters to pass through the fire: the one who slaughters an ox slays a man, (Isaiah 66:3). Better make sure you have your understanding correct according to the scripture: choose life, as the Torah says.

Absolutely! So how do you believe the firstborn are redeemed in practice? That is, if you want to answer. If you don't, that's cool.

 

[daq]

Absolutely! So how do you believe the firstborn are redeemed in practice? That is, if you want to answer. If you don't, that's cool.

Let's trade answers. Since I answered you once already how about you explain the ways in which you do all those those things in the scriptures that were posted in reply#34 above, (to which you responded previously).

How do you pluck out your eye that causes you to stumble? or cut off your hand or foot if and when they cause you to stumble? How is your new heavens and new earth coming along? Do you go forth after worship in your chosen day of the week to observe the Shabbat, (sunday?), and look upon the carcasses and body parts of those who transgressed against Elohim? All your sacrifices are salted with salt according to the Torah, right?

I can't wait to hear all about these critically important scripture teachings and how you fulfill them in the name of the Messiah by his doctrine. Unless of course you don't want to answer, which is okay too.

 

[Leaf473]

Let's trade answers. Since I answered you once already how about you explain the ways in which you do all those those things in the scriptures that were posted in reply#34 above, (to which you responded previously).

How do you pluck out your eye that causes you to stumble? or cut off your hand or foot if and when they cause you to stumble? How is your new heavens and new earth coming along? Do you go forth after worship in your chosen day of the week to observe the Shabbat, (sunday?), and look upon the carcasses and body parts of those who transgressed against Elohim? All your sacrifices are salted with salt according to the Torah, right?

I can't wait to hear all about these critically important scripture teachings and how you fulfill them in the name of the Messiah by his doctrine. Unless of course you don't want to answer, which is okay too.

I didn't realize you considered post 36 to be an answer.

But sure, thanks for your answer!

How do we do the things in the law, and pluck out our eyes, things like that? Metaphorically.

 

[daq]

I didn't realize you considered post 36 to be an answer.

But sure, thanks for your answer!

How do we do the things in the law, and pluck out our eyes, things like that? Metaphorically.

I asked you about post #34. Why do you now ask me about it and not give me your own answer? You don't want to answer? Okay, that's fine with me.

However, if one does not understand those things, which you have decided are to be read as metaphorical, how will they understand the things in Exodus 34? And who decides whether what the other poster posted is metaphorical or physical? I say, this is nothing more than the mind of the reader arbitrarily making such decisions without the reader even truly thinking about what his or her mind is doing. That was a big part of the reason why I responded the way I did to the other poster to begin with, who said, "Lets keep them all", after quoting Exodus 34:18-23.

If you do the following also, you will be doing the will of the Father, fulfilling the Torah, and doing the commandments of the Master all at the same time:

Exodus 32:25-29 KJV
25 And when Moses saw that the people were naked; (for Aaron had made them naked unto their shame among their enemies: )
26 Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD'S side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.
29 For Moses had said, Consecrate yourselves to day to the LORD, even every man upon his son, and upon his brother; that he may bestow upon you a blessing this day.

Ah yes, a special blessing for putting to death the evil doers in your gates.

Deuteronomy 32:8-11 KJV
8 And of Levi he said, Let thy Thummim and thy Urim be with thy holy one, whom thou didst prove at Massah, and with whom thou didst strive at the waters of Meribah;
9 Who said unto his father and to his mother, I have not seen him; neither did he acknowledge his brethren, nor knew his own children: for they have observed thy word, and kept thy covenant.
10 They shall teach Jacob thy judgments, and Israel thy law: they shall put incense before thee, and whole burnt sacrifice upon thine altar.
11 Bless, LORD, his substance, and accept the work of his hands: smite through the loins of them that rise against him, and of them that hate him, that they rise not again.

Blessed be Levi, Who said to his father and his mother, I have not seen them: neither did he acknowledge his brethren, nor knew his own children: for they have diligently observed the Word of the Father, and kept the Covenant.

Luke 14:25-27 KJV
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 10:33-39 KJV
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. [Micah 7:5-6]
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Micah 7:5-6 KJV
5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom. [Deuteronomy 13:6]
6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house. [Matthew 10:36]

Deuteronomy 13:4-9 KJV
4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

Luke 12:51-53 KJV
51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Choosing between reading one text as metaphorical while reading another text as physically literal, when neither text explicitly says so either way, is nothing more than the natural mind choosing what it perceives to be in its own best interest. All these teachings from the Messiah in the Gospel accounts herein above are from the Torah and Prophets. If they are metaphorical when the Master expounds them in the Gospel accounts then they are meant that way also in the Torah.