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An Empirical Theory Of God (2)
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mzungu
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Well then you should give the psoter some time to perhaps edit his post before you make haste in replying.
This is typical of creationists! You have chosen to insult me yet you know nothing about me. "Judge not lest you be judged in return".All I can say is : What a kid!haha you think you are funny but others unfortunately dont.Go work on yourself and when you grow up come here again,maybe you'll come up with something useful to say.I'll be mature enough and leave you here laughing at your own sarcasm and pathetic attitude.Keep it up!
Now why don't you provide us with evidence to your claims that there is only one sun etc!
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Of course not.But I mean the conditions for life are infinite,so for a life to become existant,cant be a coincindence.
No.But in order for humans to exist,these organisms must exist.Animals and trees and plants uses are very important for the life of men.
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Everybody knows that there is 1 sun in the solar system.Which evidence should I give you?go chekc yourself.
And you're doing nothing but making atheism image much worse.Keep it up
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mzungu
INVICTUS
Next time you say there is only one sun then you should state that you mean in our solar system. there are many binary star systems and all stars are suns so be more specific!Everybody knows that there is 1 sun in the solar system.Which evidence should I give you?go chekc yourself.
And you're doing nothing but making atheism image much worse.Keep it up
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mzungu
INVICTUS
Once upon a time people though that a heavier than air machine was an impossibility. The more conditions there are favourable for life to exist then the more the chances it will exist.
Animals preceded plants! We humans are nothing more than members of the African Apes. There is no coincidence nor intelligence involved. If conditions are right then the fundamental laws of chemistry take care of the rest.
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Assuming I agree with the first part of your statement, could you please demonstrate the second? Please show the me the chemical arrangements that are necessary to form a fully functional single celled organism.
Whatever explanation you provide, please explain how the chemistry alone makes it possible for the organism to select a balanced diet from a list of possible dietary options.
Even single-celled organisms feed themselves in 'smart' manner
How does it do that without a "brain"?
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mzungu
INVICTUS
Neither starfish not jellyfish have brains. What is your point? Do you deny that all life is possible because of chemical reactions? If you deny this then I shall cease all debate with you as chemical reactions are a prerequisite for any life to exist and function. What you claim is like me saying that Christianity does not need God, Jesus, OT , and NT in order to function and be a religion.
Chemistry is what allows for DNA to exist and we all know how important that is for life. Also ity is not a coincidence that all life forms on Earth are carbon based, but I am not going to do your homework for you; Open a book and learn how carbon easily makes chemical bonds etc.
You sir are in total want of Scientific erudition!
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I was talking about the needs of life on earth.And mentioned "a sun".So you just misinterpret things as usual.
But what makes all these conditions come to existance?You're going off topic.
What you're talking needs lots of faith.In a few decades,the evolution theory will be left out anyways,and even if it is true,it isnt even close to proving that creationism is false.
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I mean all the conditions to make humans life exist,in chemistry-physics-astronomy in humans,on earth,in the earth, in the universe... are countless and infinite.And 1 minute change would have caused our life not to exist.Because of this great design,there must be a designer,especially that humans life has been going for so long on the planet and nothing threatened life here.There must be someone with great intelligence behind this.It cant be a result of chance and luck.
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Nostromo
Brian Blessed can take a hike
Everything behaves according to a handful of basic principles. Given a large number of interactions and plenty of time, all sorts of interesting things can happen.
A 1 minute change in the life of your grandfather might have meant you never existed, but I doubt you'd say it must be divine intervention that he didn't feel like going for a newspaper that morning.
Modern humans haven't been around all that long in the big scheme of things, only a couple of hundred thousand years. That's a third of 1% of the time since the dinosaurs die out.
Why can't it?
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But in order for all right conditions to meet,it would be ~~100% impossible.Let's say this happened.Then How did the 1st humans would/could have survived?
But there's a difference here.It is not very hard to prevent himself from surviving that long,but in order to get all those possibilities,there can be no more hardness.
That's the period I meant,1k years is even so long according to astronomy,because any mistake in astronomy will make life cease to exist on earth for example (there are too many of examples and i can cite some if you want)
Because the possibility would have been 1 in an infinite numbers,while if it is for creationism,the possibility would be ~100% and much more logical
But there's a difference here.It is not very hard to prevent himself from surviving that long,but in order to get all those possibilities,there can be no more hardness.
That's the period I meant,1k years is even so long according to astronomy,because any mistake in astronomy will make life cease to exist on earth for example (there are too many of examples and i can cite some if you want)
Because the possibility would have been 1 in an infinite numbers,while if it is for creationism,the possibility would be ~100% and much more logical
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My point is that they act "intelligently", brain or no brain. Care to explain how and why they can modify their diet to suit themselves?
No, of course not. It's possible for a LOT of reasons, and chemical reactions are certainly *ONE* of them.
The universe is full of chemicals and chemicals reactions, so what's your point? Assuming it's a requirement for life, so what? That doesn't mean that single celled organisms (or any life form) formed "spontaneously" on "accident" one fine day.
Er no. I'm saying your argument is based on a fallacy. The fact that chemistry is a requirement for life is not evidence that life happened randomly. You're making that 'leap of faith' all on your own.
Did I deny that chemistry is important for life?
Um, none of that demonstrates that life formed "randomly", without intent.
You sir should climb down off that chemical high horse before you hurt yourself.
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mzungu
INVICTUS
Life did not appear randomly and neither by accident. When are you creationists ever going to understand that given the right conditions and the fundamental laws of chemistry in place then the building blocks of life will be created. What were you before you were a sperm and egg?My point is that they act "intelligently", brain or no brain. Care to explain how and why they can modify their diet to suit themselves?
No, of course not. It's possible for a LOT of reasons, and chemical reactions are certainly *ONE* of them.
The universe is full of chemicals and chemicals reactions, so what's your point? Assuming it's a requirement for life, so what? That doesn't mean that single celled organisms (or any life form) formed "spontaneously" on "accident" one fine day.
Er no. I'm saying your argument is based on a fallacy. The fact that chemistry is a requirement for life is not evidence that life happened randomly. You're making that 'leap of faith' all on your own.
Did I deny that chemistry is important for life?
Um, none of that demonstrates that life formed "randomly", without intent.
You sir should climb down off that chemical high horse before you hurt yourself.
Life does not just appear! It starts by having the chemicals and conditions that give rise to the first building blocks ie: proteins that go into building DNA etc. Of course it is VASTLY more complex than that and I am not going to do your homework for you.
Building Blocks of DNA Found in Meteorites From Space | Biological Molecules on Meteorites | Life's Building Blocks | Space.com
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mzungu
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God help us all if these fundamentalist mentally [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] nut cases ever come to power.
They are a threat to society worse than the plague! What is wrong with Americans? Wake up and get rid of these idiots. Venus is the perfect place to send them! Heck any place that is not within the orbit of earth will do!
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This is 1 condition,I'm talking about an infinite number of conditions,that's when intelligence comes and not when there are a few,and resulting in something very difficult to have,which is our life
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