An amazing pattern of 490 years

[Christian Gedge]

One of our favourite topics on this forum is ‘Daniel’s 70 weeks’. However, an aspect that is not often discussed is how 490 years is a repeating period that can be traced through Old Testament records by carefully studying dates.

Admittedly, dates are not everybody’s cup of tea, but for any who take the trouble to examine O.T. dates, they will find an astonishing pattern of sevens from Moses to Messiah. Actually, we can follow it back to Jacob, but to kick off, I’ll put up a simplified diagram from The Exodus - 3 eras of 490. See what you think.

 

[Minister Monardo]

Exodus 12:
40 Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years.
41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years—on that very same day—
it came to pass that all the armies of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.

Since this sojourn is dated to 430 years, should we assume the
"advance time" of Joseph in Egypt=60?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No one knows the day or the hour, but when it happens there will be no doubt.

 

[Christian Gedge]

Exodus 12:
40 Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years.
41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years—on that very same day—
it came to pass that all the armies of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.

Since this sojourn is dated to 430 years, should we assume the
"advance time" of Joseph in Egypt=60?

The count of 490's seem to relate to a growing revelation concerning atonement. If we are to explore earlier than Moses, the key event is Jacob dream of 'reconciliation with God.' (The ladder to heaven) So yes, your figure is useful chronological data.

On the other side of the Exodus is a similar date clue. Solomon began building the temple 480 years afterwards. (1 Kings 6:1) The dedication of the temple came later, with an extraordinary outpouring of the Spirit. Not a coincidence, these 490's.

 

[Christian Gedge]

A little bit about Bible dates … this is the boring background stuff, but the implications are mind boggling. I’ll keep them for later.

Until last century our Bible footnotes and commentaries carried the dates of Bishop James Ussher. He was very knowledgeable so I don’t wish to criticize, however his dates of the kings were wrong and the error was extrapolated back to the Exodus making it 1491 BC. Since Ussher, the co-regencies of the Hebrew kings were discovered and that is why modern commentaries now say, 1446 BC. What do your commentaries say?

As for the New Testament, modern researchers have nailed the year Christ was manifest. “Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” This declaration, quoted from Daniel 9:24, was spoken AD 27.

Pull out a calculator and stay tuned.

 

[Christian Gedge]

Another date please. The cross of Christ is surely the most important event that has ever occurred in the entire history of the world. I went looking for it in commentaries and found a surprising lack of consensus concerning the date. Up until fairly recently the year 33 BC was the most popular choice, so that made the start of his ministry, 30 BC.

Little did I realise that underlying end-time agendas were the real reason why this date was popular. Unbeknown to most of us, the late crucifixion date was developed by a dispensationalist called Sir Robert Anderson. His strange calculations were picked up by the Schofield Reference Bible and spread far and wide.

It’s not exact, but I want to use Schofields date (albeit faulty) to share what has become a major discovery for me. I took the Jesus ministry start as 30 BC and found the difference between this and the exodus date of 1446 BC and got 1475 years. Please divide by three. Lo! 491.67 years!

This set me off on a search for better precision because it was apparent that a series of sevens, fortynines, and Grand Jubilees (490’s) were at work in the Old Testament.

 

[mkgal1]

Bishop James Ussher. He was very knowledgeable so I don’t wish to criticize, however his dates of the kings were wrong and the error was extrapolated back to the Exodus making it 1491 BC. Since Ussher, the co-regencies of the Hebrew kings were discovered and that is why modern commentaries now say, 1446 BC. What do your commentaries say?

From R.C. Sproul:

Given Moses’ authorship of Exodus, we should date the book after the exodus event (c. 1450–1440 B.C.) and before his death about 1406 B.C. According to the dating below, Moses’ birth would have just fallen within the reign of Thutmose I. Hatshepsut, the widowed queen of Thutmose II, assumed male titles and even a beard as she reigned from 1504–1483 B.C. Perhaps she was the Pharaoh upon whose death Moses returned to Egypt from Midian.​

 

[mkgal1]

Britanica:

One theory takes literally the statement in I Kings 6:1 that the Exodus from Egypt occurred 480 years before Solomon began building the Temple in Jerusalem. This occurred in the fourth year of his reign, about 960 bce; therefore, the Exodus would date about 1440 bce.​

 

[Christian Gedge]

Britanica:

One theory takes literally the statement in I Kings 6:1 that the Exodus from Egypt occurred 480 years before Solomon began building the Temple in Jerusalem. This occurred in the fourth year of his reign, about 960 bce; therefore, the Exodus would date about 1440 bce.​

Secular academic sites like Britanica paint Bible dates with a fairly broad brush. We can be grateful I suppose that they are coming around to what Biblical scholars have been saying all along - that the historical record in the Bible is reliable.

So they say *about* 1440 BC. Hmmm. Our NIV study Bible says 1446 BC. I'll be saying 1444 BC and we can know it with precision. From there we can pick up the Sabbatical years right through until Daniels 'seventy', and from there through to Christ. It has serious implications.

 

[honey badger]

Then Peter having come, said to Him, "Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I will forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus says to him, "I say to you not up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven!

 

[Andrewn]

Hatshepsut, the widowed queen of Thutmose II, assumed male titles and even a beard as she reigned from 1504–1483 B.C. Perhaps she was the Pharaoh upon whose death Moses returned to Egypt from Midian.

There is speculation that Queen Hatshepsut was Moses' adoptive mother. She probably did not have any children of her own. Just to clarify, she didn't grow a beard but she was represented in statues with the usual beard of the pharaohs. This is like British judges wearing a wig.

"Thutmose III was the sixth pharaoh of the Eighteenth Dynasty. Officially, Thutmose III ruled Egypt for almost 54 years and his reign is usually dated from 24 April 1479 BC to 11 March 1425 BC, from the age of two and until his death at age fifty-six; however, during the first 22 years of his reign, he was coregent with his stepmother and aunt, Hatshepsut, who was named the pharaoh." Wikipedia

If the Exodus took place in 1444 BC, that would be during the second part of the reign of Thutmese III, after the death of Hatshepsut.

 

[Scott Husted]

Rest and its extrapolations (including an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year) all find their meaning in the purpose God purposed in himself, like the forties found in the law over the birthing of a child; its cohesive in/by nature.

Everything is relative to the garden of God (as it is to the words in The Beginning/firstfruits), which itself is a seed that opens with the culmination of a city, which is every bit relative to this calling Paul put into the words “That he might reveal his son in me.”

 

[Scott Husted]

Secular academic sites like Britanica paint Bible dates with a fairly broad brush. We can be grateful I suppose that they are coming around to what Biblical scholars have been saying all along - that the historical record in the Bible is reliable.

So they say *about* 1440 BC. Hmmm. Our NIV study Bible says 1446 BC. I'll be saying 1444 BC and we can know it with precision. From there we can pick up the Sabbatical years right through until Daniels 'seventy', and from there through to Christ. It has serious implications.

Israel spent 144000 days in Egypt and all the souls that came out of Jacob were 70 ... he lived 147 years, or three periods of 49 or seven seven year periods (if Cain 7 Lamech 70 and 7) but no jubilee), or three 21 year periods, the amount of days that one of three Hebrew children's prayers were withstood ... all these are just part of the patterns that began with the first seven days ... and Adam falling short of a day by seventy years ...

 

[Christian Gedge]

It’s not exact, but I want to use Schofields date (albeit faulty) to share what has become a major discovery for me. I took the Jesus ministry start as 30 BC and found the difference between this and the exodus date of 1446 BC and got 1475 years. Please divide by three. Lo! 491.67 years!

This set me off on a search for better precision because it was apparent that a series of sevens, fortynines, and Grand Jubilees (490’s) were at work in the Old Testament.

Schofield’s late crucifixion date is wrong. It is now widely recognised as Passover, AD 30. Therefore, his ministry start is 27 AD.

So, lets take 27 BC and find the difference between this and the exodus date of 1446 BC? Hmm, getting better - 1472 years. Please divide by three and lo! 490.66 years!

More fine tuning to come. Stay tuned.

 

[honey badger]

Daniels 70 week prophecy of which Jesus fulfilled, as he did all the prophecies in himself

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

and the fulfillment thereof

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

to me the world not knowing of the exact date of Christs Crucifixion speaks to the same pattern of not knowing the day and the hour of the coming of the son of man ....

 

[Scott Husted]

Daniels 70 week prophecy of which Jesus fulfilled, as he did all the prophecies in himself

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

and the fulfillment thereof

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

to me the world not knowing of the exact date of Christs Crucifixion speaks to the same pattern of not knowing the day and the hour of the coming of the son of man ....

Manna of the wilderness...

 

[Zao is life]

A little bit about Bible dates … this is the boring background stuff, but the implications are mind boggling.

I agree 100%. And I'm tuned. But I'm in chapter 4 already, so I've jumped ahead, lol. Never mind, I'm a slow reader, so I'll stay tuned here where I get it in bite-sized parts where I don't have to decide on how big the bite is

 

[honey badger]

Manna of the wilderness...

the dear fellow who was shown this in its type and shadow, just so happened to be born in 1933 and died aged 66 ...

yes ... even Jesus is manna to those in the wilderness and not the fruit of the land ....

 

[Christian Gedge]

I agree 100%. And I'm tuned. But I'm in chapter 4 already, so I've jumped ahead, lol. Never mind, I'm a slow reader, so I'll stay tuned here where I get it in bite-sized parts where I don't have to decide on how big the bite is

lol, there are a few sound-bites. Here's another one. Chronologists get to Moses by counting backwards from the known date of Ahab's death. 853 BC is cross referenced with Assyrian and Hebrew records thus an 'absolute' date. From there they reach Solomon's fourth year, then from there 480 years reaches the Exodus. (1 Kings 6:1)

However there are two discrepancies in modern charts - one in the reign of Omri, father of Ahab, and the other in the reign of Solomon. These result in an Exodus date of 1446 BC when in fact it should be 1444 BC. (For anyone interested in the fine details, please see appendix 2 in my book - The Atonement Clock)

So take 27 BC and find the difference between this and the exodus date of 1444 BC? Deducting one (because there is no year zero) our number adds up to 1470 years. Now please divide by three and look again. Yes, exactly 490 years!

So, there is indeed a count of 490 repeating throughout the Old Testament. Not only that but a pattern of 7's and 49's. More to come ...

 

[Zao is life]

lol, there are a few sound-bites. Here's another one. Chronologists get to Moses by counting backwards from the known date of Ahab's death. 853 BC is cross referenced with Assyrian and Hebrew records thus an 'absolute' date. From there they reach Solomon's fourth year, then from there 480 years reaches the Exodus. (1 Kings 6:1)

However there are two discrepancies in modern charts - one in the reign of Omri, father of Ahab, and the other in the reign of Solomon. These result in an Exodus date of 1446 BC when in fact it should be 1444 BC. (For anyone interested in the fine details, please see appendix 2 in my book - The Atonement Clock)

So take 27 BC and find the difference between this and the exodus date of 1444 BC? Deducting one (because there is no year zero) our number adds up to 1470 years. Now please divide by three and look again. Yes, exactly 490 years!

So

I trust what you say about this even tough I know zero regarding dating of Biblical events - and I trust what you say not only because you always back it up, not only because you have researched it thoroughly, but also and especially because you repeatedly cross-checked your own dates against other facts, using your calculator all the way.