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[Vene]

You're all nuts.

 

[Ramona]

*snuggles with Eric*

You can be King of the Nutters!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

You're all nuts.

Sometimes I feel like a nut.....
How about being voted "fundie in a nutshell" award

http://foru.ms/t6384505-fundies-say-the-darndest-things.html

http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comment...d=16047&page=1
"What does a functioning brain have to do with the Bible?"

quote: From what I've seen, LLJ is a bit of a bible-quoting robot. Often he posts things in General Apologetics that are quite off-topic. At least he doesn't call Atheists deluded unlike most Christians. I think that he's too far gone to be saved at this point.

 

[Ramona]

"Quote not found."

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

"Quote not found."

Hmm. Here is the main site. It is pretty funny.

http://www.fstdt.com/default.aspx

Here is one on AV1611VET hahaha.

http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx

"There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least."
AV1611VET,

 

[PassionFruit]

*hugs the Fruit of Passion*

I don't care who thinks I'm the b-word anymore. I am the b-word, but I do mean well.

Awwww thanks, I feel better now.

 

[Secundulus]

How do you know there are none? Have you been monitoring the entire Muslim population of the world?

Show me.

 

[Secundulus]

Why are Muslims so deathly afraid of Christian evangelists. Why? Because Islam survives only in the darkness of repression and fear. It will die when exposed to the light.

I'll stand by my statement. Only people whose humanity has been stripped from their soul are capable of incidents such as the one below. And they took him into their mosque to kill him - very appropriate. This was a year ago. Those who think my stement unfair should have no problems finding reports of the mass demonstrations of Muslims throughout the world who rose up in protest to this misrepresentation of Islam. <crickets chirping>

WASHINGTON, Mar. 29 /Christian Newswire/ -- The Washington-DC based human rights group, International Christian Concern (ICC) has just learned that an Ethiopian evangelist named Tedase was beaten to death by militant Muslims on Monday, March 26th, as he and two young women were on a street evangelism assignment in Jimma, Ethiopia. This marks the second time in six months that Christians residing in Southeast Ethiopia have been attacked and killed by extremist (Wahabbi) Muslims.

The Muslims caught up with Tedase, pulled him into the mosque, and savagely beat him to death.

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/194262642.html

 

[CaDan]

Therefore kill them? The warrant for this escapes me.

 

[CaDan]

Additional:

Such behavior was common among Christians in western Europe against Jews during Holy Week prior to the Enlightenment. I will agree with you that repression and fear cause such behavior. I will not agree with you that such is unique to Islam or that Christianity is immune to it.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Why are Muslims so deathly afraid of Christian evangelists. Why? Because Islam survives only in the darkness of repression and fear. It will die when exposed to the light.

Hi. The muslims believe Christians bring a different "Gospel/Good-Message" than what the Lord Jesus preached to the Jews, so just as most Christians view Muslims as "anti-Christian", so do most Muslims view us as "anti-christ", simply because we view JESUS differently than each other.

I myself don't really know what the fuss is all about as we ALL will be held accountable to the one and only YHWH of the Bible as shown in the Book of Revelation. Thoughts? Peace.

Galation 1:6 I am marveling that thus swiftly ye are being changed/translated from the calling of ye into a different Good-Message.
7 which is not another if no any are the ones disturbing ye and willing to pervert the Good-Message of the Christ.
8 But even ifever we, or a messenger out of heaven, should be messaging to ye beside which we well-messagizing to ye, anathema/anaqema <331> let him be.
9 As we have declared before and at present again, I am saying if any is well-messagizing beside which ye beside got, anathema/anaqema <331> let him be.

Reve 22:3 and every anathema/kat-anaqema <2652> not shall be still. And the throne of the God/YHWH and of the Lamb-kin/Word in Her shall be, and His bond-servants shall be offering divine-service to Him.

 

[Secundulus]

Therefore kill them? The warrant for this escapes me.

I never said that, and you will never find me saying that on this, or any other forum.

I simply said that the Religious war has already begun. We simply refuse to acknowledge it.

If defeating this ideology requires us to fight, as I believe it does, then better to do it now and get it over with while they are weak and divided and without nuclear weapons.

 

[mikkyo]

I never said that, and you will never find me saying that on this, or any other forum.

Your mind still speaks for itself.

I simply said that the Religious war has already begun. We simply refuse to acknowledge it.

This is a problem between Muslim, Jews, and Christians. Please leave eastern religions out of this.

If defeating this ideology requires us to fight, as I believe it does, then better to do it now and get it over with while they are weak and divided and without nuclear weapons.

So therefore kill them? Israel and America put themselves in this mess. And to think the Iraq war was gonna make it better? Ok then, do whatever you want. Let me see you go fight in some "holy war". It's your problem now.

 

[CaDan]

I never said that, and you will never find me saying that on this, or any other forum.

I simply said that the Religious war has already begun. We simply refuse to acknowledge it.

If defeating this ideology requires us to fight, as I believe it does, then better to do it now and get it over with while they are weak and divided and without nuclear weapons.

"Fight" is a euphemism for "wage war upon" which, not to put too fine a point on it, means killing people.

War is cruelty; you cannot refine it.

 

[Secundulus]

Your mind still speaks for itself.

I'm honored. I've never met a real mind reader before.

This is a problem between Muslim, Jews, and Christians. Please leave eastern religions out of this.

You interjected yourself into this discussion.

So therefore kill them? Israel and America put themselves in this mess. And to think the Iraq war was gonna make it better? Ok then, do whatever you want. Let me see you go fight in some "holy war". It's your problem now.

That's very nice. Come back when you have something useful to add.

 

[Secundulus]

"Fight" is a euphemism for "wage war upon" which, not to put too fine a point on it, means killing people.

War is cruelty; you cannot refine it.

No you cannot. If it takes killing to deflate the building Jihad then so be it.

There is killing already. There will be more killing whether we fight back or lay down like a beaten dog.

But perhaps since the Christians and Jews being killed are not newsworthy we can sit back in our warm and comfortable western homes and pretend they don't exist. You know, they're just those primitive Africans after all. No real loss to the world. And they're just Christians and Jews. They must have done something to provoke the Muslim. They probably deserved it.

Better we just put them out of our minds and focus soley on the Palestianians. White man's burden you know.

 

[Vene]

"Quote not found."

I found it.
http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=16047
And LLOJ, I wouldn't call you fundie, just deeply religious.

 

[CaDan]

No you cannot. If it takes killing to deflate the building Jihad then so be it.

There is killing already. There will be more killing whether we fight back or lay down like a beaten dog.

But perhaps since the Christians and Jews being killed are not newsworthy we can sit back in our warm and comfortable western homes and pretend they don't exist. You know, they're just those primitive Africans after all. No real loss to the world. And they're just Christians and Jews. They must have done something to provoke the Muslim. They probably deserved it.

Better we just put them out of our minds and focus soley on the Palestianians. White man's burden you know.

No need to go all Kipling on me.

As to your substantive point, one wonders how a nation state (that is what I presume the "we" you refer to is) goes to "war" with a mob. I don't see it as really possible.

Your imagery of shame and dishonor points to a relatively primitive tribal understanding of societies. Strangely enough, that primitive tribal understanding is pretty much what you condemn in various parts of the Muslim world. As I said a couple of posts back, it is difficult to fight monsters without becoming one. By processing this only through the mechanism of shame and dishonor, you risk becoming the very thing you would oppose, with cross rather than a crescent at the head of your legions.

 

[Secundulus]

No need to go all Kipling on me.

Sorry

As to your substantive point, one wonders how a nation state (that is what I presume the "we" you refer to is) goes to "war" with a mob. I don't see it as really possible.

The mobs are being motivated by the mosque. The mosques are being funded and spread and funded by the oil states. The oil states are united under one religious ideology.

As I said a couple of posts back, it is difficult to fight monsters without becoming one. By processing this only through the mechanism of shame and dishonor, you risk becoming the very thing you would oppose, with cross rather than a crescent at the head of your legions.

I understand this. However, I am entirely frustrated with the Government, with the press, and with people in general who continually crow on about the poor oppressed Muslim while ignoring the poor oppressed everybody else. I am also entirely frustrated with the attitudes of Muslims and their liberal facilitators on this forum, Futwaa excepted (who while I diagree with him on many things, is at least not disengenuous on anything), who bleat on about the majesty of Islam while turning a blind eye towards the injustice perpetrated through the mosques throughout the world today (not 500 years ago).

The perfect example - Christianity is evil because it is opposed to homosexuals, but Islam is beautiful (all the while ignoring the execution and jailing of gays in Muslim countries)

There is a gross mental discordance adrift that will allow mankind to spiral out of control.

There has never been a truer saying: quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius

 

[Secundulus]

Lets begin to honestly address why things like this happen, and then we might make some progress. Until then, this is the type of vsion that "Allah Akbar envisions in my head".

GOMBE, Nigeria – Christianah Oluwatoyin Oluwasesin, a teacher at Government Secondary School of Gandu in this northern Nigerian town, was in high spirits last Wednesday (March 21) as she made her way to school where she teaches government.

Soon her happiness would be cut short. Muslim students at the school, along with outside Islamic extremists, murdered Oluwasesin on March 21 over claims that she desecrated the Quran. They beat, stoned, and clubbed her to death, then burned her corpse.

Musa told Compass that Oluwasesin had collected papers, books and bags before the exam in the all-girls class, in accordance with school procedures to prevent cheating, and dropped the materials in front of the class.

While noting that Oluwasesin was not aware the belongings included a Quran, a local newspaper reported she tossed the belongings outside the classroom. But Musa, who rushed into the classroom soon after students began yelling, told Compass that Oluwasesin had dropped the belongings in front of the class.

“Usually such items are returned to every student as each returns her answer script,” Musa said. “Soon after the bags collected by Oluwasesin were dropped in front of the class, one of the girls in the class began to cry. She told her colleagues that she had a copy of the Quran in her bag, that Oluwasesin touched the bag, and that by doing so she had desecrated the Quran, since she was a Christian.”

Soon after the student raised this alarm, other students in class began to shout “Allahu Akbar [God is great].”

“They destroyed school property and were demanding that Oluwasesin must be given to them to be stoned to death,” Musa said. “When we could not give in by releasing Oluwasesin to them, they started stoning us.”

“The principal succeeded in getting Oluwasesin up to the school gate,” he said. “There was a house near the gate, and he dragged her into the house, but the rioting Muslims went into the house and dragged her out again. This time, they clubbed her to death, brought old mats and placed dirt on her corpse, and then burned the body.”

Musa said he was baffled that throughout the unrest, the copy of the Quran supposed to have been desecrated was never seen, nor was it produced by the offended student.

“Whether the Quran was in the bag of that student, nobody knows,” he said.
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11532579/page2/

Bloody Barbarians!