Am I a fool for standing up for myself?

[Charles Watson-Wentworth]

Wow Monkasiler, I really appreciate you replying to my post. I never thought I'd get this much attention. It feels good to know that someone cares. I'll look into the consulting for sure and I'll make sure that they are Christian so I know that they'll be truthful. And yes, what you described with Asberger's syndrome is all true and it sucks because I have to suffer and it seems like everyone else is fine but me. I also do like History a lot and I'm able to remember facts like that. I'm fascinated with antiques as well and antique cars and such and colonial history. I actually own a Kentucky flintlock rifle that I built. It's accurate to 250 yards with a musket ball which is really cool. It's a spiraled barrel and it was the sniper rifle of the American revolution.
Also, I don't mind that you abbreviate my nickname. Lots of people call me Charles and charlie even thought my names aren't charles or charlie lol. I just added Watson-Wentworth because of the county that I live in.

 

[Monksailor]

Have you seen "A Beautiful Mind" with Russell Crowe? He struggled with a challenging mental condition. He was a brilliant mathematician who engineered mathematical formulations which could predict human behavior. it won many awards. It is a very intense and deeply felt movie and it so effectively educates one of the real challenges some of the people in society have to deal with every day, every moment.

 

[Monksailor]

CW-W, Wow, a Kentucky flintlock rifle that you built. That is some REAL good accuracy. I had a friend once in the State Police who was a history buff who used that to make a lot of money. One time I visited him he had just bought a brand new Dodge Prospector 4x4 Rover with what he had saved up using his history knowledge in a hobby. It sounds like you are good with paying attention to detail and with your hands. You really DO have a lot of ability. Today, many people just are not able to pay attention to detail, and it can be as important as life and death to them but they are just too busy or do not think it matters till it is too late. Antique cars are very expensive to buy AND fix/maintain but they are neat to look at. I am not much of the first cars buff, the Model A and Model T, but I do love the early Porsche Carrera with the exaggerated real airfoil and the late 70's Corvette with the hour glass figure. Oh, and the ORIGINAL Mustang Mach 1 from 1969. It was SO much more Bossy and Bad looking than the one they have been putting out for a decade or more. And it WAS more than just looks! My brother had one and he had it all souped up with Cragger Mags, Good Year Polyglass Wide Treads, a Hurst Competition Shifter, Traction Bars, Rear Spoiler, and on and on. The compression in the engine was so powerful that when you let your foot off the gas pedal the tires would squeal from the brake Hp. He would stick a $50 bill (today's equal is about $500) in the dash on the passenger side and give you 10 seconds to grab it from take off. He could throw you back in that seat and you weren't leaning forward and getting it for nothing in those 10 seconds! Some powerful G's there. he could just sit and smoke tires all day long if he wanted but he wasn't that type of a guy. He even beat a real mean vette once, more powerful than his stang but he admitted that it was due to his traction bars. It was a real bad midnight blue with gold flake in it and that wide black stripe along the lower sides and had that real nice scoop (stock) on the hood which had the blinker indicators in the back of it. he had 3 carbs for it: stock, one for Jim Caan Rallies, and a dragging one. Oh, I could go on for much longer but I need to leave this laptop and get some work done. See ya later.

 

[Charles Watson-Wentworth]

See you later. Thank you for the messages. I appreciate it.

 

[Mel333]

Hello everyone, I have a story that I want to share with you and I want your input on it because I don't know what to think.

To start off with, I'd like to tell you about my cousin and how he has anything to do with this situation. To give you a little background information, he was my best friend. I went to his house and me and him would Play Halo together. We would always play games together and do a lot of stuff together outside as well as inside. This lasted for some years while I lived close to him. Well, when I moved away from Ohio to North Carolina (due to personal situations that were not in my control), I lost contact with him and we didn't speak for about 2 years. Well, upon visiting him again back in Ohio after getting a vacation from my job here in North Carolina and getting my living situation under control, he had some new friends that I didn't know about and I greeted them quite well. Well, I couldn't stay long and had to leave so he invited me to a chat room called Discord so we could still talk to each other and so I went back home to my job.

And so when I got home, I would always make sure to contact him and his friends when I got off of work so I would be able to communicate with them. Well, this lasted for about 4 months maybe until things started to get rocky. One day I had gotten onto Discord and started talking like usual and my cousin's 2 friends who were on the same Discord chatroom wanted to act superior to me and act opinionated towards me. I asked why they were doing that and they simply said "because I can". Along with this, they wanted to tell me how my political opinion was unfavorable to them and how I had a bad taste in video games. Furthermore, they wanted to explain to me how the government worked and how their political ideology worked better and how mine sucked. Well, this didn't sit well with me and I told my cousin about it. His response? "oh well, that's just them" and so I simply turned the other cheek and continued being in the chatroom hoping that they just had a bad day or something. Well, that didn't work as it happened again 2 weeks later, except that it was full-blown arguing all because of an opinion that I had said (which was no different that then other 4 months worth of opinions that I said before). And yet again I asked my cousin why they were acting that way. His response? "that's just them". And so I got really ticked off at that and told him a piece of my mind about his mean friends and it wasn't very Christian at all. And as a matter of fact, I've never even said such mean things even to my worst enemy. And well, my cousin didn't take it lightly and he said some mean things back. And so we argued for about 2 days with his friends involved and I told them how they shouldn't act harsh towards me for no reason and they were saying how I was just sensitive and I said that no human on earth can act as mean as you all do, and a whole bunch of other things.

Finally, I got tired of arguing so I left the chatroom and blocked all of them so they wouldn't communicate with me. Well, my cousin had my phone number and he continued to argue and I just said to leave me alone before I get the police involved for harassing me so he did. All 3 of them are ages 15 to 17 so it really doesn't bother me and all of their threats and how they're going to beat me up when I come to Ohio don't bother me, and I don't care. I'm 37 years old, I've got better things to do.

Anyhow though, I wanted to ask you all what I should have done differently. Was I fool for standing up for myself or should I have kept quiet? I wasn't going to stand having 2 random people that I only met once and whom are 800 miles away up in Ohio act opinionated towards me and the other one act mean to me just because I'm a Christian (they insulted me for being Christian and said that Satanism is better). And I sure wasn't going to put up with them telling me that my religion is false and their false religion is true and I wasn't going to stand being in there while they were being offensive by telling 9/11 victim jokes, Jewish jokes, racist jokes, and all types of other horrible stuff that would be inappropriate to mention. Likewise, I wasn't going to stand having them tell me that being in the Constitution Party was stupid and that Libretarainism is better (which goes with them hating the Bible because they think rules and regulation and such is stupid). After awhile my cousin even joined in on their side and all 3 of them were bashing me. I just got sick of it. Their millennial "meme" culture and their lack of being decent and kind was all the more of a reason to leave and to block them.

Anyways though, I just wanted your guys' input on this. They're terrible people honestly and I've never been around such a group of low IQ people who had nothing positive to say about life, anyone around them, or other people. Likewise, I never knew such humans can be so immature. One of them was cynical as well and the other one was just opinionated and it was annoying. It was all just opinions to them and arguing just so they could say "I won an argument against you" when timing called for it. My cousin also hates me as well for standing up for myself but I don't care. What I have to say is worth more to me than a lifelong friendship I say. I only stayed in that chatroom to talk to my cousin, not his immature friends.

Should I stay away from them and my cousin? I've got friends here in North Carolina who don't act like this at all and they act mature, should I just hang out with them and keep my nose to the grindstone with my job and not worry about my cousin and his friends in Ohio and just hang out with my friends here in North Carolina?

Thanks.

I found this interesting that this happened on a platform called 'discord'. lol

Yeah, you did the right thing. Stand up for yourself, forgive them as well for they do not understand and move on from it. They sound immature and cannot expect much from certain people.

We are still called to love our enemies though. This requires that you accept them as they are and forgive them for being immature. You cannot correct a mocker either as it invites more insults.

 

[Neostarwcc]

Hello everyone, I have a story that I want to share with you and I want your input on it because I don't know what to think.

To start off with, I'd like to tell you about my cousin and how he has anything to do with this situation. To give you a little background information, he was my best friend. I went to his house and me and him would Play Halo together. We would always play games together and do a lot of stuff together outside as well as inside. This lasted for some years while I lived close to him. Well, when I moved away from Ohio to North Carolina (due to personal situations that were not in my control), I lost contact with him and we didn't speak for about 2 years. Well, upon visiting him again back in Ohio after getting a vacation from my job here in North Carolina and getting my living situation under control, he had some new friends that I didn't know about and I greeted them quite well. Well, I couldn't stay long and had to leave so he invited me to a chat room called Discord so we could still talk to each other and so I went back home to my job.

And so when I got home, I would always make sure to contact him and his friends when I got off of work so I would be able to communicate with them. Well, this lasted for about 4 months maybe until things started to get rocky. One day I had gotten onto Discord and started talking like usual and my cousin's 2 friends who were on the same Discord chatroom wanted to act superior to me and act opinionated towards me. I asked why they were doing that and they simply said "because I can". Along with this, they wanted to tell me how my political opinion was unfavorable to them and how I had a bad taste in video games. Furthermore, they wanted to explain to me how the government worked and how their political ideology worked better and how mine sucked. Well, this didn't sit well with me and I told my cousin about it. His response? "oh well, that's just them" and so I simply turned the other cheek and continued being in the chatroom hoping that they just had a bad day or something. Well, that didn't work as it happened again 2 weeks later, except that it was full-blown arguing all because of an opinion that I had said (which was no different that then other 4 months worth of opinions that I said before). And yet again I asked my cousin why they were acting that way. His response? "that's just them". And so I got really ticked off at that and told him a piece of my mind about his mean friends and it wasn't very Christian at all. And as a matter of fact, I've never even said such mean things even to my worst enemy. And well, my cousin didn't take it lightly and he said some mean things back. And so we argued for about 2 days with his friends involved and I told them how they shouldn't act harsh towards me for no reason and they were saying how I was just sensitive and I said that no human on earth can act as mean as you all do, and a whole bunch of other things.

Finally, I got tired of arguing so I left the chatroom and blocked all of them so they wouldn't communicate with me. Well, my cousin had my phone number and he continued to argue and I just said to leave me alone before I get the police involved for harassing me so he did. All 3 of them are ages 15 to 17 so it really doesn't bother me and all of their threats and how they're going to beat me up when I come to Ohio don't bother me, and I don't care. I'm 37 years old, I've got better things to do.

Anyhow though, I wanted to ask you all what I should have done differently. Was I fool for standing up for myself or should I have kept quiet? I wasn't going to stand having 2 random people that I only met once and whom are 800 miles away up in Ohio act opinionated towards me and the other one act mean to me just because I'm a Christian (they insulted me for being Christian and said that Satanism is better). And I sure wasn't going to put up with them telling me that my religion is false and their false religion is true and I wasn't going to stand being in there while they were being offensive by telling 9/11 victim jokes, Jewish jokes, racist jokes, and all types of other horrible stuff that would be inappropriate to mention. Likewise, I wasn't going to stand having them tell me that being in the Constitution Party was stupid and that Libretarainism is better (which goes with them hating the Bible because they think rules and regulation and such is stupid). After awhile my cousin even joined in on their side and all 3 of them were bashing me. I just got sick of it. Their millennial "meme" culture and their lack of being decent and kind was all the more of a reason to leave and to block them.

Anyways though, I just wanted your guys' input on this. They're terrible people honestly and I've never been around such a group of low IQ people who had nothing positive to say about life, anyone around them, or other people. Likewise, I never knew such humans can be so immature. One of them was cynical as well and the other one was just opinionated and it was annoying. It was all just opinions to them and arguing just so they could say "I won an argument against you" when timing called for it. My cousin also hates me as well for standing up for myself but I don't care. What I have to say is worth more to me than a lifelong friendship I say. I only stayed in that chatroom to talk to my cousin, not his immature friends.

Should I stay away from them and my cousin? I've got friends here in North Carolina who don't act like this at all and they act mature, should I just hang out with them and keep my nose to the grindstone with my job and not worry about my cousin and his friends in Ohio and just hang out with my friends here in North Carolina?

Thanks.

My cousin and I were inseparable when we were kids too. Then I moved too. I moved to the states (We were both Canadian kids only he stayed in Ontario and I moved to upper New York) when I was seven years old. My cousin still kept in contact with me by visiting me every summer vacation. This went on until we were about 14 or 15 years old (I can't remember which) then we had a huge fist fight when he came over one time and to be completely honest with you? I don't remember what we were fighting about and neither does he.

We've recently made up over facebook when both of us got married/engaged . It took us almost 20 years to finally make up. Meanwhile it was extremely awkward whenever we ran into each other we mostly just ignored each other. It was quite sad. I wanted to make up with my cousin way earlier than that. But I still haven't hung out with my cousin in almost 20 years he lives all the way in Ottawa and I live in upper New York state. He couldn't make it to our grandparent's funerals (They both passed away within a year of each other. It was quite sad) and we were going to hang out and talk then. But he ended up having to work so I understood.

But now that we're both married I don't think his wife would want to hang out with us anyway. No clue I've only seen her a few times. He dated her for a really long time. Pretty much since high school.

Anyway, I think you handled it correctly. You and your cousin will make up eventually I promise. All fights end sometimes, they're not permanent. It just might take a while. Maybe not 20 years but he has your phone number if he ever wants to call and apologize. Or you have his. Assuming neither of you move.

But he's 15 and immature. Just like my cousin and I were like 15 and immature too whatever we were fighting about was quite juvenile. When he grows up and becomes a man hopefully he will probably keep better friends and will learn to forgive and forget. It's not permanent.

My dad got into a fight with his cousin too (Not a fist fight like mine). They eventually made up. Again, idk what they fought about. But cousin fights just must be common enough in families. Lol.

 

[Charles Watson-Wentworth]

You cannot correct a mocker either as it invites more insults.

Trust me, I tried, but it was in vain. They don't know much to be honest. They think they know better than everyone else and it sickens me. And yes, they did insult me. They said that my politics were unfavorable, my attitude, how I talked to them with reason and rationing, and then they attacked me because they are immature. As I said, they are satanic libertarians who think that they know how the world works and everyone is wrong about everything to them. I'm glad I'm away from them.

 

[Monksailor]

I found this interesting that this happened on a platform called 'discord'. lol

Looking below and at the OP I cannot find "Discord." I don't even see any tags with such. I cannot understand. Please explain "platform." Where is this structure/data base of which you speak? It may help me in my further use of this site. Thanks. I thought the most specific sub-category was "Christian Advice"

 

[Charles Watson-Wentworth]

Looking below and at the OP I cannot find "Discord." I don't even see any tags with such. I cannot understand. Please explain "platform." Where is this structure/data base of which you speak? It may help me in my further use of this site. Thanks. I thought the most specific sub-category was "Christian Advice"

Discord is the name given to a social media chatroom where gamers and anyone who wants to speak to other like-minded gamers and people can do so. However, only the same users in each chatroom may speak to each other and no one of different chatrooms may speak to other people in different chatrooms. These chatrooms are called servers. Within these servers are further sub-chatrooms called channels dedicated to any topic and it is only here where users may speak to other users who are within the same server. Users may speak to other users if they go to other chatrooms but they may only communicate with other users who are also in the same chatroom. Users also must be invited to servers but this can easily be done by just searching up online for server invite links which will take you to that certain server. An invite link is the same as an access link and this allows users to go into that server. Servers may also be customized by changing the server icon or what each channel is called. Users then speak to each other. That is Discord.

 

[Monksailor]

Two quick notes for you CW-W, my friend.

• Please stop getting down on yourself. You are just as good or valuable as ANY of us here in God's eyes. Who are we to second guess Him or tell Him that He doesn't know what He is doing? WE ALL have "conditions" which disable us one way or another; REALLY. The ground is LEVEL at the foot of the cross. We are all struggling to be more and more like Christ from that point.
  
• We all have disabilities here. Not one, NO not one here has arrived or is perfect. Many have learned to very cleverly hide their "conditions" or mask them or project them upon another (see: Psychological projection - Wikipedia) or a number of other ways to dissociate from seemingly being held accountable or being conscious of them, but we all have some condition disabling us; even if it is just the present tense condition the Apostle Paul shares that he wrestled with as a Christian in Romans ch 7 vs 7 to the end. CW-W, you definitely are not alone. Some even preoccupy themselves in such an obsessive but seemingly holy incentive of theological and/or philosophical escalations of complex formulations which end up getting them nowhere but on a trip of avoiding self-examination and revelation. That information on ASD I gave earlier said that with just that there is almost 2 out of a hundred people going around with that. That really is not that rare. That is 10 ASD people in a congregation of 500. That is a whole SS class. Unfortunately, I fear that we do not see that actual number in churches due to the ground not being fertile for their presence and growth. But CW-W you are in good company here. We all have a "condition" of one type or another of which we are dealing. Yours MAY be more obvious but rest assured you are NOT alone by all means. Most people have learned to hide their "condition" very well, but rest assured we all have at least one with which we are also having to deal/struggle with. And you know what? When and if we overcome it with the power of Christ there is always another one which grabs a hold of us and another wrestling mach starts. Even though OTHERS see your "condition" and may be unable to deal with it and turn away, REMEMBER THIS; their turning away from you is actually them turning away from themselves. They are reminded that flaws exist in mankind, in them and they are unable to deal with that fact, not you. Show them your love and you will help them love themselves and you in return.

 

[Monksailor]

Wow! Thank you CW-W. That was a very complex explanation and quick. It would have taken me an hr or more just to type that. Son't ask me how long it would have taken me to compile it in such an organized format!

 

[Monksailor]

I have to go again, CW-W, but there is one thing I thought of yesterday after signing off which is very important to mention here, even if you know it, for other's sake. EVEN THOUGH ONE MIGHT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN A TERRIBLY ABUSIVE HOME AND HAD A VERY POOR SELF-IMAGE DEEPLY IMPRINTED INTO THEIR MATRIX/PSYCHOSIS THIS DOES NOT DICTATE WHO THEY ARE OR WHAT THEY WILL NECESSARILY BECOME.

When we decide to accept Jesus' death on the cross as payment in full for our sins we become a NEW CREATION IN CHRIST. Our previous self is placed on the cross. We have chosen to no longer ascribe to any worldly conditioned, pressured, or imposed behavior pattern but rather have chosen to assimilate Jesus Christ's behavior as the NORM. Our citizenship is now in heaven. Through time and with faith in Christ, we ARE able to shake and overcome even deeply imprinted matrices or psychoses.