Alternative Explanations for 'The Mandela Effect'

[Freodin]

It’s a better term than mandela effect

It still is the same problem. The difference between people being wrong, or the world being wrong.

We know that people can be wrong. We have still no evidence for the universe suddenly changing on us.

 

[JohnEmmett]

We have still no evidence for the universe suddenly changing on us.

Speak for yourself

 

[Freodin]

Speak for yourself

"Evidence" is something that you can share with people who do not have the same direct experiences as yourself.

You don't have something like that. As is, ehm, evidenced by the total lack of it in this (and all your other threads), even after our repeated requests.

 

[JohnEmmett]

even after our repeated requests.

Shrug

 

[Freodin]

I request that you investigate

Yes... and as you might remember, the things that you told me to investigate are... only in your mind.

I cannot read your mind.

You told me to "google maps". On the assumption that I would find something that I remember differently. That is... a bit vague, even for you. Because the world is rather big... and there it would take quite a difference to discover if I happen to "just remember" the south coast of the Ammersee to be not quite as sharply curved to the south as it is in reality, or that the Gulf of Mexico should be on the northern coast of the United States.

You cannot offer anything. You don't have to offer anything. You are just fishing.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You cannot offer anything.

I can’t help an atheist


That’s not my fault

 

[Freodin]

I can’t help an atheist


That’s not my fault

This has nothing to do with atheism.

And claiming to have evidence when you don't... well, yes, that is your fault.

 

[JohnEmmett]

This has nothing to do with atheism.

Or everything

You have no idea what subjectivity is

 

[Freodin]

Or everything

You have no idea what subjectivity is

Should I now tell you that you have no idea what objectivity is? Hint: that is the thing that means we can share things.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Hint: that is the thing that means we can share things.

No one can force you to accept

 

[Freodin]

No one can force you to accept

There is a teeny tiny little difference between willful ignorance and justified skepticism. I have learned over time that you have difficulties with that concept.

 

[JohnEmmett]

There is a teeny tiny little difference between willful ignorance and justified skepticism. I have learned over time that you have difficulties with that concept.

…

 

[Freodin]

It must make sense to you

And here we can go back to objectivity... you seem to be completely unaware that your claims do not even make sense to yourself, when you get faced with them in return.

 

[JohnEmmett]

you seem to be completely unaware that your claims do not even make sense to yourself

I merely take this for what it is … a real phenomenon

 

[Freodin]

I merely take this for what it is … a real phenomenon

Oh, there is no denying that is is a real phenomenon. What is debated is the explanation for it... and there you just take wild speculations for granted.

 

[JohnEmmett]

you just take wild speculations for granted.

Wild is bad?

 

[Freodin]

Wild is bad?

In that standing expression's context: yes.

 

[JohnEmmett]

In that standing expression's context: yes.

Why? Are you afraid? Or too dignified

 

[Freodin]

Why? Are you afraid? Or too dignified

Are you even for real?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Are you even for real?

Atheism is a real problem …