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I am not inclined to fret over anything. If you think of baptism as optional then perhaps the Salvation Army congregation would provide a good home for you.
I do not think anybody worries too much about church buildings. We have them and they are convenient and useful but they are just buildings and they will pass away just as everything else in this world must, eventually.
The law of love is wonderful especially because it is grounded in God's love for us.
By the way, have you read any books about holiness? I remember, from quite a few years back, reading THE PURSUIT OF HOLINESS and also J C Ryle's work on Holiness. I think that both books might be educational if you have not read them yet.
Be of good cheer, and please, do not allow anything upset you so much that you lose your temper. Remember that, on GT, you always have time and proof reading as tools to moderate anything you want to say.
God bless.
Which variety of restorationism? SDA or Church of Christ (was that what you meant by COC?) or maybe something I've never heard of before.Cant join the liberals, dont agree.
Charismatics? No, WOF doesnt care for me either.
RCC, no
EOC, no
COC, no
Moderates? no
whos left? restoration movement maybe?
Which variety of restorationism? SDA or Church of Christ (was that what you meant by COC?) or maybe something I've never heard of before.
SDA is Seventh Day Adventism. There are a number of Seventh Day Adventists on GT; I am sure that one or more of them would be willing to explain to you anything you are curious about.COC=Church of Christ
I don't know what the restoration movement is, i was checking it out but wasnt sure what it was, is it SDA?
SDA is Seventh Day Adventism. There are a number of Seventh Day Adventists on GT; I am sure that one or more of them would be willing to explain to you anything you are curious about.
How about you give us a short statement of your beliefs and your priorities and then maybe somebody will recognise it as matching their own?No, im aware of their doctrine, i will not fit in there at all.
You might be asking too much. I am not sure really.I just need a place that teaches baptism and all that good stuff, but isnt bound so tightly to legalism that they would reject me over water, a place that puts more weight behind faith, is not legalistic yet is not against the rules found in the NT. A place that will nurture me instead of play hard ball all the time, thats what i hate about GT, hardball all the time.
Am i asking for too much?
<humorous remark to follow>My avatar is a 1000 year old man, surely I deserve respect!<end of humour>A place where kids respect their elders too, that would be nice. I may even learn from it myself
You might be asking too much. I am not sure really.
May I ask why you want a place where baptism is taught but at the same time you do not want to be rejected over water - I confess I am not sure what you mean by this; is it that you believe in baptism but that you are not baptised yourself and for some reason are not going to be baptised any time soon?
<humorous remark to follow>My avatar is a 1000 year old man, surely I deserve respect!<end of humour>
Respect for one's elders is present with some young folk and absent with others; I think this is how it has always been, some are respectful and some are not.
I see. I do not think anybody places their faith in baptism's waters. I do not.Yes i believe in baptism but i am not baptized. If i went to church i would get baptized, my faith has sustained me so far and water hasn't stood in the Lords way in guiding me, so i guess im saying i believe in baptism but my faith is not in water, its in Him.
I see. I do not think anybody places their faith in baptism's waters. I do not.
I think that God saves us, in an act of grace he does it because he loves us. Baptism is a means of grace like the Lord's supper and prayer and hearing the scriptures and many other things are. Some means of grace are linked to physical actions and physical things - such as baptism and the Lord's supper - and some means of grace are linked to ideas and personal convictions - such a prayer and the reading or hearing of scripture - but in all of these things it is God who acts to save and to give growth. Do you agree?You would be surprised. Many think that ritual is what saves us. I once did too, but being forced to go without has taught me differently.
I think that God saves us, in an act of grace he does it because he loves us. Baptism is a means of grace like the Lord's supper and prayer and hearing the scriptures and many other things are. Some means of grace are linked to physical actions and physical things - such as baptism and the Lord's supper - and some means of grace are linked to ideas and personal convictions - such a prayer and the reading or hearing of scripture - but in all of these things it is God who acts to save and to give growth. Do you agree?
I am mature but not old, not yetIts hard enough humbling oneself, having a kid dissrepect you isn't helpful
Yes i believe in baptism but i am not baptized. If i went to church i would get baptized, my faith has sustained me so far and water hasn't stood in the Lords way in guiding me, so i guess im saying i believe in baptism but my faith is not in water, its in Him.
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