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[desmalia]

You cannot wear a religion mask before the judgment of God and escape the convictions of your sin!

Well put!

 

[Chickapee]

Originally Posted by Messiahship
You cannot wear a religion mask before the judgment of God and escape the convictions of your sin!

Well put!

amen !! Job 26:6 Hell [is] naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.

peace C..

 

[HolyGuardianAngels]

I've read MANY threads on this forum where people refer to Allah as the God of the Muslim's as if this is a proper name of some "false god" and that is just not true, so I would really like to set the record straight and educate those who are unaware of the fact that "Allah" is the ARABIC WORD ~for~ GOD.

Just as "Dios" is the SPANISH word for GOD.

And "Dieu" is the FRENCH word for GOD.

"Allah" is the ARABIC word for GOD.

It is not the "proper name" of a particular Islamic God connected only to Muslims. Even Arabic CHRISTIANS use the word "Allah" to refer to GOD. The Aramaic BIBLE uses the word "Allah" for GOD, as it is the Arabic word ~for~ God.

I would just like to ask that we please keep that in mind when making statements about Muslims and "false gods" so that we don't insult our Arabic brothers and sisters in CHRIST because of our lack of knowledge on this subject.

Many thanks!!
angelmom

A Catholic or Christian can NEVER worship Allah!!


We can NEVER refer to GOD as ALLA

Alla points to a specific RELIGION . . . ISLAM
(I slam) and NOT to Catholicism or related beliefs . . .


ASK a Muslims if this following phrase is kosher . . .

• • JESUS is GOD and Saint Peter is HIS Prophet . . .

IF we all are ONE; . . . then, how is AMERICA, the Great Satan . . . We worship GOD, Our Father, here . . .



So you see; WE, as Christians can NEVER replace, "OUR Father" with ALLA . . .


WE can NEVER (and note I am stressing NEVER) worship the WORD ALLA . . .


Remember, that
Jesus is the WORD . . . The Most Holy Eucharist is GOD . . . guaranteed know one I know, will be calling HIM ALLA . . .






Happy Easter

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I have Muslim friends... and I'm not Islmamaphobic.... but there are many scriptures in the Quran that are NOT PEACEFUL!.

You cannot wear a religion mask before the judgment of God and escape the convictions of your sin!

That is correct. As these guys eventually found out later.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5170545-are-allah-god-yhwh-the-same.html
are-allah-god-yhwh-the-same

John 8:21 therefore said Jesus again to them, `I go away, and ye will seek me, and in your sin ye shall die; whither I go away, ye are not able to come.' 24 I said, therefore, to you, that ye shall die in your sins, for if ye may not believe that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins.'

Ezekiel 39:17"Assemble yourselves and come; Gather together from all sides to My sacrificial meal Which I am sacrificing for you, A great sacrificial Meal on the mountains of Israel, That you may eat flesh and drink blood. [Revelation 19]

 

[PastorMikeJ]

actually if you refresh the reading of Arabic history you will find that allah mean moonstone.. it was one of the 365 idols that they worshiped...Mohamid took name of the moonstone idol for the name of his god...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I just saw this article and this is really amazing.

Does that mean Josephus was "hallucinating" when writing about the Destruction of the Temple/Sanctuary and Jerusalem in the first century

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=54714

Moses, Jesus 'really prophets of Islam'

Chief Muslim claims Jewish Temples never existed, Al Aqsa built by angels

JERUSALEM – The Jewish Temples never existed, the Western Wall really was a tying post for Muhammad's horse, the Al Aqsa Mosque was built by angels, and Abraham, Moses and Jesus were prophets for Islam.

In a WND exclusive interview, Tamimi, who preaches regularly from the Al Aqsa Mosque, claimed Jews have no historical connection to Jerusalem or Israel and that the Jewish Temples never existed.....................
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Luke 21:22 because these are days of vengeance, to fulfil all things that have been written. 23 `And woe to those with child, and to those giving suck, in those days; for there shall be great distress on the Land, and wrath on this People; [Daniel 12/Reve 19]

http://www.davieapostolicchurch.com/studies/destuct/

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover ...At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival. [Ezekiel 22]

..................Meanwhile the horrors of famine grew still more melancholy and afflictive. The Jews, for want of food were at length compelled to eat their belts, their sandals, the skins of their shields, dried grass, and even the ordure of oxen.

 

[Nadiine]

actually if you refresh the reading of Arabic history you will find that allah mean moonstone.. it was one of the 365 idols that they worshiped...Mohamid took name of the moonstone idol for the name of his god...

Yes, I read somewhere years back that archaoelogists had discovered etchings in a cave - that allah was shown with other moon gods? Something to that effect.

Either way, The Muslim Allah isn't our YHWY.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Yes, I read somewhere years back that archaoelogists had discovered etchings in a cave - that allah was shown with other moon gods? Something to that effect.

Either way, The Muslim Allah isn't our YHWY.

Well, that hasn't stopped them from growing as fast if not faster than CHRIST-ianity.
I believe the atheists should be going after that religion instead of us in the General Apologetics board.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5201074-general-revelation.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54570

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – A group of reformists from Muslim societies who have become accustomed to death threats upped the ante yesterday with a declaration they hope will spark a popular movement across the Islamic world to "fight back" against fundamentalist interpreters of the faith.

Secularists such as Ibn Warraq, Nonie Darwish and Irshad Manji helped formulate the "St. Petersburg Declaration," which seeks to do no less than eliminate traditional understandings and practices of Islam that conflict with universally accepted human rights.

 

[Polycarp1]

A Catholic or Christian can NEVER worship Allah!!


We can NEVER refer to GOD as ALLA

Alla points to a specific RELIGION . . . ISLAM
(I slam) and NOT to Catholicism or related beliefs . . .

You know, I am truly sorry to hear that. I always thought you Catholics worshipped God the Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

His Beatitude Ignace Pierre VIII Abdel-Ahad is Patriarch of Antioch and All the East of the Syrians. Ignace Pierre VIII is the leader of the Syrian Catholic Church, an Eastern Catholic Church that is in full communion with Catholic Church's Holy See at the Vatican and uses the Antiochene liturgy. When His Beatitude celebrates Mass in his native Arabic, he addresses our Triune Lord with the Arabic for "(The) God."

I am truly sorry to see you declaring yourself out of communion with the Pope and the Catholic Church.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I am truly sorry to see you declaring yourself out of communion with the Pope and the Catholic Church.

Hi. The Pope is in competition with Muhammad though.

Matthew 24:1 Then Jesus went out and departed from the Temple [of Serpents/Robbers], and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple.

Reve 19:3 Again they said, "Alleluia! Her smoke rises ["Gehenna"] up forever and ever!" 4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sat on the throne, saying, "Amen! Alleluia!"

 

[Nadiine]

Well, that hasn't stopped them from growing as fast if not faster than CHRIST-ianity.
I believe the atheists should be going after that religion instead of us in the General Apologetics board.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5201074-general-revelation.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54570

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – A group of reformists from Muslim societies who have become accustomed to death threats upped the ante yesterday with a declaration they hope will spark a popular movement across the Islamic world to "fight back" against fundamentalist interpreters of the faith.

Secularists such as Ibn Warraq, Nonie Darwish and Irshad Manji helped formulate the "St. Petersburg Declaration," which seeks to do no less than eliminate traditional understandings and practices of Islam that conflict with universally accepted human rights.

I've always argued that Atheists are proving they know who the TRUE God is by all the many religions they don't bother attacking.

With that said, there's one reason Islam is so large; IT'S FORCED RELIGION. Of course you're going to have it grow with population when the death penalty awaits any who leave it.

Yes there are many who convert to it, but it's mostly by threat in other countries.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I've always argued that Atheists are proving they know who the TRUE God is by all the many religions they don't bother attacking.

With that said, there's one reason Islam is so large; IT'S FORCED RELIGION. Of course you're going to have it grow with population when the death penalty awaits any who leave it.

Yes there are many who convert to it, but it's mostly by threat in other countries.

Hi Nadine. Have you debated against the atheists on the General Apologetics board to convince them of that.
If they think CHRIST-ianity is so bad, wait until more Muslims get into our government in the US.


http://www.christianforums.com/f13-general-apologetics.html

 

[Polycarp1]

Hi. The Pope is in competition with Muhammad though.

Well, only in the sense that the Pope claims to speak prophetically in his teaching role. (And they both had/have a great deal of respect for our Lord's mother, too.)

Nadiine, MikeJ, or anyone else who cares to essay it, I'd be very interested in seeing an objective* source for the Allah=moon god allegation, if you can unearth one.


* I mean absolutely no insult to any member, and especially to the two named. Like many other members here, I find it very difficult to assess the objectivity of a source that agrees with me. And I don't propose to hold others to a sterner standard than myself. But as I noted several pages back, the only sources I've seen for that allegation are ones that were clearly from other material presented ones that were prepared to lie in God's service in order to combat Islam. In the interests of stating truth in support of the God of Truth, in whom there is no falsehood, I'd dearly love to see that proven out from a reliable source.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Well, only in the sense that the Pope claims to speak prophetically in his teaching role. (And they both had/have a great deal of respect for our Lord's mother, too.)

Nadiine, MikeJ, or anyone else who cares to essay it, I'd be very interested in seeing an objective* source for the Allah=moonbat moon god allegation, if you can unearth one.


* I mean absolutely no insult to any member, and especially to the two named. Like many other members here, I find it very difficult to assess the objectivity of a source that agrees with me. And I don't propose to hold others to a sterner standard than myself. But as I noted several pages back, the only sources I've seen for that allegation are ones that were clearly from other material presented ones that were prepared to lie in God's service in order to combat Islam. In the interests of stating truth in support of the God of Truth, in whom there is no falsehood, I'd dearly love to see that proven out from a reliable source.

Hi Polycarp. Then why not go dialogue with the Muslims instead of debating the theology of ALLAH and our LORD on this board. Peace

http://www.christianforums.com/t5025307
-is-the-muslim-god-the-same-as-the-christian-god.html

http://www.christianforums.com/t5170545
Are ALLAH GOD YHWH the same?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Well, only in the sense that the Pope claims to speak prophetically in his teaching role. (And they both had/have a great deal of respect for our Lord's mother, too.)

Nadiine, MikeJ, or anyone else who cares to essay it, I'd be very interested in seeing an objective* source for the Allah=moonbat moon god allegation, if you can unearth one.

I just remembered there was a rather lenghthy thread on that over here if you are interested.

http://www.christianforums.com/t2948564-allah-could-be-the-pagan-moon-god-al-ilah-mh.html
Allah could be the Pagan Moon God AL-ilah? (MH)

Ok, instead of throwing this in every thread, I figure why not just start a topic on it, now I know that the mods deleted the other one, and just so you know this is not meant to offend anyone, it is rather an offical site to discuss, and debate on this topic, I will not accuse Allah as being the pagan moon god, but I will say, I am going to be on that side, defending it, if I am proven wrong, I will debunk this claim, otherwise, I will be leaning to the other side of the debate, now, I know you guys have some kind of web site to direct me too, so please, you start the comments.

 

[NeedingPrayersDaily]

I did what I would do when curious about any religion. I asked a follower

I asked a Muslim and he told me that the God OF Abraham IS Allah, the same we refer to as God (or some say JEHOVA) So YES The same Gos, three faiths (Judaism Christianity and Islam)
I learned a lot talking to him about the Islamic faith....more than I ever learned listeningto Christians talk about the Islamic faith. And why wouldn't I ?
Throughout history, there have been many groups of people, many different faiths who have wanted to try to exlude others from God, to try to say that they and they alone "own" God. It is a problem that many Muslims are dealing with now, as they have many groups who claim to be "God's only true followers" I told him we have that problem in America too, it is a group called "the church of Christ" who try to tell anyone who is not a part of their group that unless they join their group, then they will never see heaven.
Sad

It seems though that the influence of uneducated people in America has further widened a gap and lead to more hatred between followers everywhere. The fact is, the GOd can be traced back to Abraham so YES it is the same God, just a different interpretation. Read your Koran and see for yourself.

And we do NOT need any more hatred.

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Nadiine, MikeJ, or anyone else who cares to essay it, I'd be very interested in seeing an objective* source for the Allah=moon god allegation, if you can unearth one.

Try the Qur'an...

It's a given historical fact that Allah was the moon-god in pre-Islamic Arabia.

 

[desmalia]

I did what I would do when curious about any religion. I asked a follower

I asked a Muslim and he told me that the God OF Abraham IS Allah, the same we refer to as God (or some say JEHOVA) So YES The same Gos, three faiths (Judaism Christianity and Islam)
I learned a lot talking to him about the Islamic faith....more than I ever learned listeningto Christians talk about the Islamic faith. And why wouldn't I ?
Throughout history, there have been many groups of people, many different faiths who have wanted to try to exlude others from God, to try to say that they and they alone "own" God. It is a problem that many Muslims are dealing with now, as they have many groups who claim to be "God's only true followers" I told him we have that problem in America too, it is a group called "the church of Christ" who try to tell anyone who is not a part of their group that unless they join their group, then they will never see heaven.
Sad

It seems though that the influence of uneducated people in America has further widened a gap and lead to more hatred between followers everywhere. The fact is, the GOd can be traced back to Abraham so YES it is the same God, just a different interpretation. Read your Koran and see for yourself.

And we do NOT need any more hatred.

I would strongly recommend that you put down your Koran and start reading your Bible. That is where the truth is found.

You've made some rather nasty and unfounded generalizations about Christians there. I for one am not uneducated about Islam, nor am I someone who hates Muslims. One of my close friends is a Muslim. I have no hatred for her, I can promise you that. But I do hate the religion that she is so devout to because if she leaves this earth still believing its lies, she will never see heaven.

Any religion that does not recognize Christ as Lord is not united with Christianity, no matter how you paint it.

 

[Nadiine]

I would strongly recommend that you put down your Koran and start reading your Bible. That is where the truth is found.

You've made some rather nasty and unfounded generalizations about Christians there. I for one am not uneducated about Islam, nor am I someone who hates Muslims. One of my close friends is a Muslim. I have no hatred for her, I can promise you that. But I do hate the religion that she is so devout to because if she leaves this earth still believing its lies, she will never see heaven.

Any religion that does not recognize Christ as Lord is not united with Christianity, no matter how you paint it.

Preach it Sistah!!!!!

 

[sunlover1]

I did what I would do when curious about any religion. I asked a follower

I asked a Muslim and he told me that the God OF Abraham IS Allah, the same we refer to as God (or some say JEHOVA) So YES The same Gos, three faiths (Judaism Christianity and Islam)

And the different sects that would call
themselves Christians but don't have
the true God, still believe in their
hearts they're following our God.
Without Christ, how can they be?
He's the only way, He said...

sunlover