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Dave L

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Yeah sure, God plans to you to fall and sin in the case that happens, and then commands you to repent... that is ridiculous.
He produces Christ in us through the experiences we encounter.
 
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Does God claim to be our Father ???
 
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How about the killing of God's people throughout history? Does it show he does exactly what you say he doesn't do? Does Jesus ring a bell?
Who did God send to kill Jesus ?
Living on battle field Earth does carry with it the risk, if not, the certainty, of death. Serving God on Earth is an assignment which, invariably, ends in physical death.
 
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Who did God send to kill Jesus ?

Living on battle field Earth does carry with it the risk, if not, the certainty, of death. Serving God on Earth is an assignment which, invariably, ends in physical death.
“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:” Acts 2:23 (KJV 1900)
 
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“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:” Acts 2:23 (KJV 1900)
As I previously said, ... God knew that a mission to Earth ... was a death sentence for Christ ...
 
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As I previously said, ... God knew that a mission to Earth ... was a death sentence for Christ ...
Read this.
“But it was the LORD’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the LORD’s good plan will prosper in his hands.” Isaiah 53:10 (NLT)
 
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To address the original question (which I totally forgot to answer) I give thanks by creating - and actually, just by saying "Thank you" too. When you create, you're in synchronisation with Him. To that extent, imitation is the sincerest form of admiration.

I do NOT mean, pretend to be God. I mean paint, write, make things, etc. If you're painting a landscape then YOU are the architect of that world, just as God is to this one.
 
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If you live for ten years from today. You will be doing only what God planned for you to do and this precise moment.
OK so God caused you to sin in the past, and he will cause you to sin 10 years from now, yet you are deserving of his wrath for those sins, even though he caused you to do them?

That's nonsense. No offense.

Look, man is deserving of God's wrath because he commanded us not to sin, and we disobey him by making our own free choice to sin, in contrast to his command. By not following his commands we dishonor him. Is it really that difficult to understand?

God gives people rules, makes them disobey the rules, and then punishes them for disobeying them? What would people call you if you did that to your children? Would they call you a good father, or an abusive father? You tell me.
 
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God uses all we experience to shape us.

“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.” Romans 8:28 (KJV 1900)

This also says "all things work together" as a huge chain reaction of events through time.
 
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Yeah that's why I say your God is a fraud. You can't give an account for his actions, so you just keep deflecting.
I'm sure that you believe this. Me, ... not so much ...

P.S. Do you think Peter would approve of your apparent lack of charity ???

1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, ...
 
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Yes ...

Is a general sending a soldier into battle SIN ???
I don’t understand the context of your question. However, if God planned the cross, then He planned evil to take place.
 
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Yes ... it was the plan (and mystery) of God to ultimately sacrifice Himself to the world's evil, and thus, obtain the victory over it ...
 
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Yes ... it was the plan (and mystery) of God to ultimately sacrifice Himself to the world's evil, and thus, obtain the victory over it ...
He did not sacrifice himself to evil (Satan). He paid for the sins of his chosen so God could be Justified and not punish them for their sins. And treat them as though they are as perfect as Christ forever.
 
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I don’t understand the context of your question. However, if God planned the cross, then He planned evil to take place.
He planned to incorporate evil. That's different than sourcing it.

God used the world's evil ... in overcoming the world's evil.

I once worked our church's youth. In doing so, I had to deal with a rather incorrigible boy who would, on occasion, lift his leg to kick me.

On one such occasion, I simply held his foot when he lifted it, ... and he promptly fell on his butt. He never lifted his leg to kick me again.

I simply used my charge's evil ... to overcome his evil ...
 
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Can God restrain evil?
 
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He did not sacrifice himself to evil (Satan). He paid for the sins of his chosen so God could be Justified and not punish them for their sins. And treat them as though they are as perfect as Christ forever.
I didn't say that God sacrificed Himself to Satan ... rather, only to the world's weak, presumptive evil ...
 
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God uses all we experience to shape us.
So what? That doesn't mean that God causes people to sin. How many people were raped today? What about these pedophile priests? God caused these rapists to go out and rape? Really?
 
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So what? That doesn't mean that God causes people to sin. How many people were raped today? What about these pedophile priests? God caused these rapists to go out and rape? Really?
Yes, but in a corrective way. Why pray to lead us not into temptation if he doesn't use sin for our good?
 
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