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That was the answer, the questions were based on a carnal mind and not compatible with God's perspective.
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That was the answer, the questions were based on a carnal mind and not compatible with God's perspective.Okay, but can you answer the questions?
So that they may emerge ... as God's trophies of grace ???Why would God plunge Adam and the whole race into sin and destruction if he loved them?
“And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.” 1 Kings 22:20–23 (KJV 1900)
He created the outcome or prophecy is impossible.
You can't control your tongue according to James.
You are missing how dreadfully sinful people are and how deserving of God's wrath they are. If you have even a cursory knowledge of scripture, he sends murderers to murder even his most beloved martyrs.
God cannot sin. Free will is a novelty with no support.
If sin has a valid purpose, why did God kick Satan out of heaven for it?If God allows sin, do you think it might be because He has a purpose for that sin?
always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;
— Ephesians 5:20
If God has decreed all things that come to pass, it’s easy to understand how we should give thanks in all things. We may not always understand these things, especially the tragic, but we can still be thankful even through tears and mourning. We know that God’s plan will bring Him glory.
My question is for those who don’t think that God decrees all that comes to pass. How do you give thanks to God in all things if He’s not in charge of all things?
always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;
— Ephesians 5:20
If God has decreed all things that come to pass, it’s easy to understand how we should give thanks in all things. We may not always understand these things, especially the tragic, but we can still be thankful even through tears and mourning. We know that God’s plan will bring Him glory.
My question is for those who don’t think that God decrees all that comes to pass. How do you give thanks to God in all things if He’s not in charge of all things?
Calvinists don’t like to admit it, but their doctrine that God decrees every single thing that happens, means that God decreed the fall of man into sin, then decreed the penalty of sin is to be damned into everlasting fire, then decreed that 80% or more of mankind is predestined to be lost.
Jesus said most will be lost, and few will be saved - therefore, since the Calvinist God withholds regeneration from the non elect, (so they cannot be made alive spiritually and believe the gospel and be saved), this means God decreed that man would sin and need to be saved, then decreed He would make it impossible for most of mankind to believe, then damn them for eternity for unbelief.
And then there’s the 1/3 of the angels who fell, and are now doomed to be cast into the lake of fire.
In Calvinism, God decreed that a third of the angels would sin, however, unlike His mortal creation that is mostly damned but at least a few are predestined to be saved - God has provided no way of salvation for any of the fallen angels.
How about the fact that God decreed Hitler, decreed a world war with 70 million dead, including 14 million murdered in the Nazi holocaust, including 6 million Jews.
And before that He decreed an American civil war with 600,000 deaths.
But the most ironic thing about Calvinism is, that though their dogma means that every disease, every physical problem such as stroke, cancer or heart problems has been decreed by God, the Calvinist will go to the doctor for treatment, or surgery, or drugs, to fight against God’s will for them to be sick.
The apostles gave thanks for being "worthy of the affliction"
Sir I have read some of your posts and need to ask why are you so miserable?
That’s strange that you call exposing the fact that reformed/Calvinist doctrine is an insult to the nature, and character of God, is somehow being miserable.
The apostles thanked God for the affliction anyway.But unlike Calvinism claims, God didn’t afflict them.
Satan does the stealing, killing, destroying, and afflicting, not Jehovah.
Well if you find it insulting that's probably why you come over as a surly character when talking about calvinism, at least to me.
And obviously I would argue the opposite and say the God that does not decree all things is a slander against God's sovereignty, making the sinner author of their own salvation worthy of boasting in the presence of the almighty.
And a liar for that matter, starting off loving all people sending the beloved son to die for everyone but changing his mind and hates them if they do not accept his terms, accepting Christ. Or he is just not immutable and so not eternal, thus just an idol of men.
Obviously, God feels differently, given that He was secure enough to encourage the Israelites to CHOOSE their own fates ...And obviously I would argue the opposite and say the God that does not decree all things is a slander against God's sovereignty, making the sinner author of their own salvation worthy of boasting in the presence of the almighty.
Actually, God loved everyone enough that He sent His son to die on a cross for them.And a liar for that matter, starting off loving all people sending the beloved son to die for everyone but changing his mind and hates them if they do not accept his terms, accepting Christ. Or he is just not immutable and so not eternal, thus just an idol of men.
If God allows sin, do you think it might be because He has a purpose for that sin?
Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
— James 1:2-3
I’m not really sure how that addresses the OP, particularly the verse in question.Sin is definitely a part of His plan although I don’t believe He is the source or author of it, which is why I believe in free will. Free will is the source of sin not God. God has simply determined that man will have free will so that he may choose to love Him or choose to reject Him and I believe that’s precisely why this world exists. To cultivate those who will love and serve God and to separate these from those who will reject Him.
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