They have hard evidence for a massive (though not world-wide) flood in the black sea-mediterranean area 2500-4000 years ago. This was probably the Flood of Genesis.
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AiG says "Global Flood happened at about 2304 BC"
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You were there, Ocean?
And it was closer to 4000 years ago, not 2500.
1953 B.C. or there abouts.
And I have evidence for the pole-shift, a PHYSICAL pole-shift at that precise time.
And it was closer to 4000 years ago, not 2500.
1953 B.C. or there abouts.
And I have evidence for the pole-shift, a PHYSICAL pole-shift at that precise time.
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Most possible things are highly improbable. Winning the lottery, getting struck by lightning, giving birth to quadruplets.
Improbable things happen all the time, just not very often. That's what makes them improbable.
Life forming was an extremely improbable event, but it happened. Was the hand of a divine creator involved, or did we simply beat the odds? I'll go with Occam's Razor on this one and bet on the latter. Do we need the supernatural to explain natural processes?
I honestly don't know how we got here, and I'm comfortable with that. I don't need to invent a supernatural world to explain away the mysteries of the universe.
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It is an ice-core from Greenland.
If placed on a 6000 year timeline versus the 110,000 year timeline that the scientists put on it, it clearly shows the pole-shift event and others that confirm that the dating is correct.
Other events include an event at the exact time of the last passing of Hale-Bopp comet in 2209 B.C. - 105 years before the flood and right around the time Noah began building the ark, the eruption of Krakatoa in 535 A.D., Vesuvius in 79 A.D., and the warming and calming of the planet from around 1200 A.D..
The Krakatoa eruption is the largest eruption in known history that is known to have caused a worldwide climate change. And this event is the second tallest spike on a graph showing the relative dust content in the atmosphere. The tallest spike happens just after that, and current tree ring studies suggest that the dust event of 535 A.D. was actually a double dust event. Also confirmed in this ice-core.
The ice-core itself is thought to be rather unique in that it is thought to have never gone through a melt cycle. It means that this particular ice-core is a continuous record in ice of the climatic conditions of the planet from the time the ice began to accumulate at this location.
If placed on a 6000 year timeline versus the 110,000 year timeline that the scientists put on it, it clearly shows the pole-shift event and others that confirm that the dating is correct.
Other events include an event at the exact time of the last passing of Hale-Bopp comet in 2209 B.C. - 105 years before the flood and right around the time Noah began building the ark, the eruption of Krakatoa in 535 A.D., Vesuvius in 79 A.D., and the warming and calming of the planet from around 1200 A.D..
The Krakatoa eruption is the largest eruption in known history that is known to have caused a worldwide climate change. And this event is the second tallest spike on a graph showing the relative dust content in the atmosphere. The tallest spike happens just after that, and current tree ring studies suggest that the dust event of 535 A.D. was actually a double dust event. Also confirmed in this ice-core.
The ice-core itself is thought to be rather unique in that it is thought to have never gone through a melt cycle. It means that this particular ice-core is a continuous record in ice of the climatic conditions of the planet from the time the ice began to accumulate at this location.
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All that would be evidence for your theory, except the ice core is 110,000 years old, not 6000 years old. Why do young-earth Creationists always have to change the age of something to get it to work with their "theory"?
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The dating put on it by the scientists is a choice between three best guess choices. And who said I was a young-earth creationist?
I said I assigned a time period of 6000 years for the ice-core, not for the earth.
And these scientists with their "best guess" theories do not include a guess for a shorter time period.
They are GUESSING as to the dating. So I am changing nothing, I am just interpreting it differently, and in a way that lines up with RECORDED events in our more recent history.
You asked for scientific evidence, not just from the Bible.
I gave it to you and you discount it offhand without even looking at it. I will e-mail it to you in whatever format you desire so you can see exactly what I did. That is IF you want to CONSIDER an alternative viewpoint that makes just as much sense as what is currently accepted.
And I will be back Monday, I just came in today for a bit of overtime.
I said I assigned a time period of 6000 years for the ice-core, not for the earth.
And these scientists with their "best guess" theories do not include a guess for a shorter time period.
They are GUESSING as to the dating. So I am changing nothing, I am just interpreting it differently, and in a way that lines up with RECORDED events in our more recent history.
You asked for scientific evidence, not just from the Bible.
I gave it to you and you discount it offhand without even looking at it. I will e-mail it to you in whatever format you desire so you can see exactly what I did. That is IF you want to CONSIDER an alternative viewpoint that makes just as much sense as what is currently accepted.
And I will be back Monday, I just came in today for a bit of overtime.
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AiG says "Global Flood happened at about 2304 BC
Anybody want to check the CNN website to see if there was a story about it that year?
Anybody want to check the CNN website to see if there was a story about it that year?
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Isn't there a theory that the Gulf ofMexico was produced by an impact of an extraterristial object.It would cause a big splash!
Isn't there a theory that the Gulf ofMexico was produced by an impact of an extraterristial object.It would cause a big splash!
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scientists referred to above maybe able to explain stratigraphy, especially the example of varves in short time history.Or perhaps a dendochronologist can explain why he believes a Huon pine is 40 000 years years old Then we go to the other extreme;potassium-argon dating.Please explain why you can't accept this.Anybody with linear accelerator can make gold from tungsten.Do you believe that is possible?
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umm what about the fossil record for one.or do you actually believe the fossils were buried slooowllyy over millions of years,now to me thats crazy.
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crazy? is it as crazy as believing that the fossils were deposed in a worldwide flood in such a way so that dinosaurs never appear in the same level as mammals, and pollen is never ever found before the appearance of angiosperms?
thats insane
thats insane
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Who ever made such a claim? The fossils were buried FOR millions of years not OVER millions of years.
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Duane, weak argument. Noone has responded to you in this manner on your dating methods. Were YOU there when God created the Great Pyramid as you claimed?
You're referring to a 180 degree inversion of the Earth?....Good luck on proving that one.
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It's simply altering the science to fit a theory. The data, ages, and accepted scientific explanations threaton their beliefs, so they just alter the facts. Who else has been guilty of this throughout history? and for what purpose? hmmmm...think for a moment.
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I am altering no science to fit my theory. I simply apply a different timescale.
That is NOT altering the data, and the timescale originally put to it is merely one of three best guess methods they use.
BEST GUESS. They do not KNOW either, they are just guessing.
And tree ring evidence supports it also.
You people keep saying you want PROOF. Well, you have no PROOF with any method, only evidence that is interpreted in certain ways.
I interpret it differently, and the data fits. You can check it out further or ignore it, I do not really care. I know the Truth while you are still trying to find it.
That is NOT altering the data, and the timescale originally put to it is merely one of three best guess methods they use.
BEST GUESS. They do not KNOW either, they are just guessing.
And tree ring evidence supports it also.
You people keep saying you want PROOF. Well, you have no PROOF with any method, only evidence that is interpreted in certain ways.
I interpret it differently, and the data fits. You can check it out further or ignore it, I do not really care. I know the Truth while you are still trying to find it.
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