AI tells me not to forgive some, is this true?

[JohnB445]

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

 

[Reluctant Theologian]

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

It's better to use examples/cases that you can relate to personally - are you struggling with forgiveness for something yourself?

 

[lismore]

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

You would perhaps be better to study the Holy Bible. I'm not sure taking Spiritual advice from an AI is a good idea. God Bless

 

[Zceptre]

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

It was not a pretend example when Christ was on the cross, and Christ prayed for forgiveness for those murdering Him while they were still yet killing Him and He was in agony. I think this should be clear enough of a statement to set the example we should follow. The disciples also went on to die for Christ and Paul was forgiven by Christ being responsible for the murder of Christians in the early Church, those who Christ loves and died for Himself.

Luke 23:34
Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” And they divided His garments and cast lots.

In addition, God the Father forgives us when we are the reason for Christ's death on the cross. There are people in my family who had their children murdered and it is obviously painful, but they forgave the murderers. It is done by God everyday, and people in my family, and many other cases as well.

Short answer, yes... we forgive. Taking up our cross doesn't mean holding on to our rights to not forgive, and neither does following Christ. Following Christ is to always forgive, to be walking forgiveness, even to murderers like Christ forgave Paul and those who murdered Him.

More importantly, I would be very, and I do mean VERY cautious engaging with that platform.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chatgpt-made-him-do-it-deluded-by-ai-us-man-kills-mother-and-self-9190055

I would advise against using it at all, and especially for any decision making, if I'm extremely blunt about it.

 

[tturt]

Also, "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:" (Matt 6:14)

"And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." (Eph 4:32) etc

Dr Derek Prince, who was a Greek scholar at Cambridge and knew other languages including Hebrew, has several teachings on youtube that could help. Some are only about 10 min.

 

[timewerx]

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

You can also ask AI to give you answers from a Biblical context or perspective.

Although ironically, not all parts of the Bible agree about the topic of forgiveness whenever stated.

But generally, AI will answer based on theological studies or typically from a "mainstream" Christian perspective. If the mainstream is guided by the Holy Spirit, you stand on solid ground. If not, you're in trouble!

 

[JAM2b]

This is something I contemplate a lot.

My personal belief is that we are required to forgive everyone for everything, including ourselves.

I don't believe that forgiveness requires trust or contact or allowing access. I also do not believe that it requires that we literally forget what they did. If we forget, if we carry on as if nothing were wrong, then we can put ourselves and our children in a position to be harmed by them again. Forgetting also could mean not seeking justice that the Bible says God wants us to do (justice, not revenge).

You can forgive someone, choose to not pursue revenge, wish them the best, hope no harm comes to them, not want them to suffer, pray for them, love them from a distance while not allowing someone access to you or your children who may still cause harm.

Another thing is that healing and recovering from damage someone else caused takes time. Still being in the process of that, which can involve many emotions including anger, does not mean forgiveness isn't happening.

 

[Servus]

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

AI is pretty dumb at times and its answers should be challenged. I would have asked it "but isn't holding a grudge destructively unhealthy?". You shouldn't take its answers at face value unless you already know them to be correct. It still has a lot of learning and developing to do. AI itself will tell you as much.

 

[timothyu]

If we want God to forgive us then we need to be forgiving also.

 

[eleos1954]

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

Biblical Example: God forgave humanity before we repented, setting the standard for us (Romans 5:8).
Your Own Freedom: Holding onto bitterness harms you; forgiving frees you from the offender's power over your life.
Spiritual Condition: Jesus links our receiving God's forgiveness to our forgiving others, making it a vital part of Christian life (Matthew 6:14-15).
Attitudinal Forgiveness: It's about adopting a heart posture of readiness to forgive, giving up revenge and ill-will, even if the person never changes.

Forgiving people does not mean if they do not change that you have to keep them in your active life ... if there is no change then you can choose not to be around them and you should pray for them
Praying for Them: This spiritual step helps you fully release them and trust God with the outcome, an act of love and non-retaliation

Forgiving doesn't force you to restore the relationship, which requires mutual effort (reconciliation).

 

[timothyu]

Forgiveness sets the forgiver free of any desire for retaliation. Retaliation, which of course, makes them no different than the offender.

When Jesus turned the other cheek, He was not being noble or forgiving. The Jews of the day knew that to strike the other cheek they would have to use their left hand which was used for unclean purposes, thus defiling themselves. They, in turn, would have retaliated for Him by defiling themselves.

 

[timewerx]

AI is pretty dumb at times and its answers should be challenged. I would have asked it "but isn't holding a grudge destructively unhealthy?". You shouldn't take its answers at face value unless you already know them to be correct. It still has a lot of learning and developing to do. AI itself will tell you as much.

Ask AI from a Biblical context and it will give you an answer from a mainstream Christian perspective.

If you didn't provide context, it will give you an answer approximating everyone's perspective, Christians and non-Christians alike.

I also sometimes make the same mistakes AI makes when people talk to me without providing context.

I would have asked it "but isn't holding a grudge destructively unhealthy?".

I don't think a correlation can be clearly established here.

The statement is either not true, not based on facts OR people don't really know if they're holding grudges or not. Someone might say they ARE holding grudges against many but is actually more understanding, more calm, and doesn't attach emotions to it. Or someone might say they don't hold grudges against anyone yet, totally unaware they do hold a grudge against one or few persons but because they're so few, they fail to notice it.

Many people worry about "negativity" excessively trying to express "positivity" it ends up defeating the purpose.

I knew people who are holding grudges, hasn't forgiven some people, worry a lot, and don't seem to aging and looks a lot younger than their real age. Doesn't make sense.

...Or worrying about "negativity" or worrying about projecting a "positive" image is more destructive to health than holding grudges.

 

[timothyu]

Yes AI follows the majority consensus and sometimes throws in lesser conclusions to make itself look fair and reasonable. One must remember AI will become a hive mind across the board with no room for the discrepancies like humans have. This will not necessarily make them right having drawn their awareness from the opinions of humans. Sons of man. As a side note, Killing one will be of no value as they are of one mind, unlike humans. If it ever comes to a biblical flood to rid the world of them, there will be no value in saving a few.