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Excellent!Can you please explain your point?
It was a question, but if you choose not to answer or even see it for what it really means, up to you.
Then He can also control how time passes and the age of the earth can be whatever people want to think it is becasue all past events are Faith based at their core.u7yyyyyyi\75tr
Are you saying God doesn't have control of the speed of light?
Yes, God can do anything, with some qualifications, but He didn't, he did SOMETHING. The problem with any "appearance of age argument" is that it reduces Romans 1:20 to a false statement.
Yes, God can do anything, with some qualifications, but He didn't, he did SOMETHING. The problem with any "appearance of age argument" is that it reduces Romans 1:20 to a false statement.
Perhaps for many the problem lies with the impression that science is an Atheistic endeavor, which it is not. The beginning of both the universe and of life remain a mystery, which is why the argument for the existence of God centers in the realm of philosophy, and specifically metaphysics. Taking a view against science because of pre-conceived bias is submitting to a false dilemma, and an extremely myopic perspective.
This is one of the more extremely long OP posts on CF, and it shows the variety of ideas people have. That is why we must know and hold to "all the counsel of God" and leave our ideas and reasonings for parlor talk. God hears all the nonsense, and we ought to want to be on God's side of things ---i.e. His Word of Truth; and I decline now to speak further to those who are not yet "born again" saints of God. Look up, friends!
Excellent!
Then He can also control how time passes and the age of the earth can be whatever people want to think it is becasue all past events are Faith based at their core.
I always stand behind my comments. Persuading others is not one of my immediate goals.I see.
I suppose that's one way out of not being able to stand behind your comments.
Indeed, though how many have degrees in the hard sciences or enough reading to tell good science from imagination?
Good science is lots of imagination.
If we were told that the story of the three little pigs were truth and you had to believe it as is and that studying for further meaning excludes one from being a TLP believer.....Would this not hinder you from learning the powerful, life altering meanings and messages of the story?
Yes, and because we dont focus on the reality of the pigs...we focus on the moral the story brings and what we must do to not have our houses blown away.The whole world knows the story of the three little pigs but no one worships or even believes in in the pigs as Gods or a God.
The same goes for all of any old book or story.
The world knows them as just fairy tails.
But most of the world knows for a fact that the Bible is and was written as real factual story's.
Why?
Common sense.
I always stand behind my comments. Persuading others is not one of my immediate goals.
Yet you are here trying to persuade, but when called on something, you aren't trying to persuade?I think the comment you replied to covers this situation just fine.
Certainly needed to come up with new hypothesis and techniques. Then in good science the hypothesis the imagination came up with is rigorously tested. Most fail, and some don't. Fun stuff. Sorta a little like goals in soccer.
I approach evangelism the same as the writers of scientific paper writers do.
I'm sure some scientists have it going on but others, the way they approach writing a scientific paper, well, lets just say that doesn't exactly instill confidence here.
God given common sense is for anyone, that and the knowledge of God is the way we should approach everything.
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
I'll take the word of God any day. I mean seriously, some of these people that lean to their own understanding actually believe evolution to be a fact...see what happends?
Yet, you yourself are leaning on your own understanding because of how you interpret Genesis.
As I recall you were unable to address the questions posed to you so you just excused yourself out of the conversation.
The fact is that the fundamentalist YEC really had its beginnings in the early 20th century and much was adapted from SDA. There were many theologians and scientists who were Christian prior to, and since, that believed/believe in OEC. As noted previous, much of the YEC/Anti-evolution is totally misdirected and in no way circumvents the Bible.
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