Adam was formed on the 3rd Day

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

n2thelight said:
I agree with your 7 day scenario,however you're missing my point....I agree that it has been around 6000 years since God made Adam and that He shall return on the 7th ie the milennium.

The day 6 that I refer to was before He formed Adam

False, since man (Heb-Adam) was formed of the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain. Gen 2:4-7 It was ALSO before the Trees which GREW on the 3rd Day Gen 1:12. Amen?

-57 · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777....I'm getting bored. Your creation account has been refuted ad-naseum.

-57 · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777 said:
False, since man (Heb-Adam) was formed of the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain. Gen 2:4-7 It was ALSO before the Trees which GREW on the 3rd Day Gen 1:12. Amen?

THIS HAS BEEN REFUTED. THERE ARE THE TREES IN THE WILD (chapter 1...day 3) AND THE TREES IN THE GARDEN (chapter 2...created day 6 for the garden).

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

-57 said:
THIS HAS BEEN REFUTED. THERE ARE THE TREES IN THE WILD (chapter 1...day 3) AND THE TREES IN THE GARDEN (chapter 2...created day 6 for the garden).

What difference does it make since there were NO plants nor Herbs Gen 2:4-7 when Adam was "formed" on the 3rd Day. No need to scream. You are trying to confirm the ancient religion of men who lived thousands of years ago, and I am trying to show you that they CANNOT support their "beliefs" with Scripture. God told Daniel WHY they could not understand.

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Ancient Hebrew theologians did NOT live in the last days of this Earth. Amen?

-57 · Dec 30, 2015

I wrote it big so you can see it. It refutes your false theology.

mmksparbud · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777 said:
Genesis 2:4-7 shows that man (Heb-Adam) was "formed" on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:16 shows that the first STARS lit up on the 4th Day. Conclusion: Adam was made BEFORE the first STARS of our Cosmos, which first put forth their light some 13.8 Billion years ago.

Adam lived until some 12k years ago, since the Ark arrived on our Planet some 11k years ago. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html This means that Adam lived more than 13.8 Billion years ago, in man's time.

Thank you---however, you did not answer my question. It's not what you, or science thinks that I am interested in, but what the bible says. My question was where in the bible does it say each day was billions of years long when it says "God said let there Be..." followed by "And there WAS....." It doesn't read" there WILL Be"--

Aman777 said:
Adam lived in a body like that of Jesus and like ALL Christians will have in heaven. That's another really good thing about Heaven. IF we want to eat, ok, but IF we don't eat, that's ok too. Adam did NOT live in a body of flesh until AFTER the fall. Here is the change. Gen 3:7

Aman777 said:
The best example of this is that Jesus (Lord God) made temporal man physically Gen 2:4-7 BUT man was NOT "created" in God's Image until AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

Gen 5:1 ¶ This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God (Elohim) created man, in the likeness of God made He him; Gen 5:2 Male and female created He them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

The above is when Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually. Below is when they were "formed" temporarily by Jesus (Lord God).

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.(being)

Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) had taken from man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Aman777 said:
Adam and Eve's AGE was NOT counted until they were born again Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2 Adam lived on the first Earth, for 930 years AFTER he and Eve were born Eternally. Gen 5:5 This was many years AFTER Adam sinned. Amen?
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This is very confusing as you first said that Adam was made physically first, but not created in God's image (spiritually born again) until after Cain killed Abel. Born again means that there was a previous birth, so the physical body came first then the spiritual. But then that means that Adam had a physical body first, not a spiritual body, and the body required food, which there was none. So Adam was all alone on a barren planet for billions of years in a physical body until day 5 when the creatures were made----then he was born again spiritually after Cain killed Abel??? Do I have you chronology correct?

Aman777 said:
NO. Jesus KNEW that Adam would fall because of his love for Eve, so she was made AFTER the creatures were made from the ground, on the present 6th Day. Gen 2:22 It was also AFTER the sons of God (prehistoric people) were created from the water on Day 5. Gen 1:21

(Gen 1:21) And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

I do not see where this verse states that God made the sons of God as prehistoric people---there is no mention of the sons of God in Genesis 1 or 2. They are not mentioned until Gen 6.

joshua 1 9 · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777 said:
Genesis 2:4-7 shows that man (Heb-Adam) was "formed" on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:16 shows that the first STARS lit up on the 4th Day. Conclusion: Adam was made BEFORE the first STARS of our Cosmos, which first put forth their light some 13.8 Billion years ago.

Words are very important and the key word here that everyone seems to agree on in Genesis 2:4-7 is: "generations". This is the reason that Peter says: "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." On day three God created the plants. The plants had to produce the oxygen for oxygen based life to evolve.

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

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Adam and Eve's AGE was NOT counted until they were born again Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2 Adam lived on the first Earth, for 930 years AFTER he and Eve were born Eternally. Gen 5:5 This was many years AFTER Adam sinned. Amen?
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*** This is very confusing as you first said that Adam was made physically first, but not created in God's image (spiritually born again) until after Cain killed Abel. Born again means that there was a previous birth, so the physical body came first then the spiritual. But then that means that Adam had a physical body first, not a spiritual body, and the body required food, which there was none. So Adam was all alone on a barren planet for billions of years in a physical body until day 5 when the creatures were made----then he was born again spiritually after Cain killed Abel??? Do I have you chronology correct?

Here is the chronology. 1. Adam was formed from the dust on the 3rd Day according to Gen 2:7 in the likeness of Jesus in an Immortal Body, but he was NOT born Spiritually, Eternally, by God the Trinity until AFTER he sinned.

2. Prehistoric people according to Science AND Scripture were made from the water the 5th Day SINCE they moved, as their bones clearly show. Gen 1:21

3. Eve was made the 6th Day. Gen 2:22

Both Adam and Eve were "created" by the Trinity at the SAME time, which was AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2 This is confirmed in the N.T.

1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was NOT first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

Adam was first "formed" by Jesus (Lord God) in a immortal body like Christ's body. Gen 2:7 When he sinned, he found himself in a body of flesh, just like the sons of God (prehistoric people). Gen 6:4 After Cain killed Abel, Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually by the Trinity. Gen 5:1-2 Adam lived for 930 years, in man's time, and he died. Gen 5:5

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NO. Jesus KNEW that Adam would fall because of his love for Eve, so she was made AFTER the creatures were made from the ground, on the present 6th Day. Gen 2:22 It was also AFTER the sons of God (prehistoric people) were created from the water on Day 5. Gen 1:21
(Gen 1:21) And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

*** I do not see where this verse states that God made the sons of God as prehistoric people---there is no mention of the sons of God in Genesis 1 or 2. They are not mentioned until Gen 6.

Where did they come from? Cain married one of these people and had children. Gen 4:17 This shows that Humans (descendants of Adam) were identical with prehistoric people AFTER the fall. Genesis 6:4 shows the same since the sons of God had children with the daughters of Adam (mankind).

Notice that Gen 6:4 also shows that this event would happen again with the words (and also after that). This prophecy was fulfilled when Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry. They married and produced children with the prehistoric people on Planet Earth, whose origin was in the Water. Gen 10:10 In this manner God produced the SEVEN Billion Humans (descendants of Adam) alive today, on Planet Earth.

That is WHY we have the superior intelligence of Adam, which is like God's, Gen 3:22 AND the DNA of prehistoric people within our bodies. Amen?

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

joshua 1 9 said:
Words are very important and the key word here that everyone seems to agree on in Genesis 2:4-7 is: "generations". This is the reason that Peter says: "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." On day three God created the plants. The plants had to produce the oxygen for oxygen based life to evolve.

True, but Adam was NOT made in a body of flesh, but instead, in an immortal body like the body of Jesus. He found himself in a body of flesh AFTER he sinned. Gen 3:7 The sons of God (prehistoric people) evolved from the water on Day 5 AFTER the plants were made. Gen 1:21 Adam sinned on the 6th Day and his daughters had children with the sons of God showing that they were identical. Gen 6:4 Amen?

joshua 1 9 · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777 said:
True, but Adam was NOT made in a body of flesh, but instead, in an immortal body like the body of Jesus. He found himself in a body of flesh AFTER he sinned. Gen 3:7 The sons of God (prehistoric people) evolved from the water on Day 5 AFTER the plants were made. Gen 1:21 Adam sinned on the 6th Day and his daughters had children with the sons of God showing that they were identical. Gen 6:4 Amen?

Adam lived in the Garden of Eden and he ate the same food that we eat today. His body came from the "dust of the ground," what made him different from the animals was the "breath of life". Today we have the Holy Spirit given when we are born again. Those that are not born of God will perish in the same way the animals perish. As Peter says: "like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed," 2 Pet 2:12

ewq1938 · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777 said:
UnScriptural, since the 7th Day is FUTURE. We live today at Gen 1:27 because God (Trinity) is STILL creating Adam (Heb-mankind) in His Image which is in Christ Spiritually. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of events which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet to rule and reign for a thousand years. Amen?

No, you don't know what you are talking about. What religion/denomination has taught you this nonsense?

mmksparbud · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777 said:
Where did they come from? Cain married one of these people and had children. Gen 4:17 This shows that Humans (descendants of Adam) were identical with prehistoric people AFTER the fall. Genesis 6:4 shows the same since the sons of God had children with the daughters of Adam (mankind).

What prehistoric peoples?? That is evolution, it is not found in the bible---I asked for biblical statements---where are the biblical statements of a prehistoric peoples? There is no mention of them in Gen 1 or 2.

Aman777 said:
Adam and Eve's AGE was NOT counted until they were born again Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2 Adam lived on the first Earth, for 930 years AFTER he and Eve were born Eternally. Gen 5:5 This was many years AFTER Adam sinned. Amen?

I didn't ask about Adam's age, the bible states his age at his death.

Aman777 said:
Here is the chronology. 1. Adam was formed from the dust on the 3rd Day according to Gen 2:7 in the likeness of Jesus in an Immortal Body, but he was NOT born Spiritually, Eternally, by God the Trinity until AFTER he sinned.

HUH?? What is the difference between being formed from dust in an immortal body, but not born spiritually ,Eternally, by God. Immortal body, eternal spiritual body---what makes the difference? You are saying they are both eternal. How do you reconcile that with :

(1Ti 6:15) Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
(1Ti 6:16) Who ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

(Gen 1:26) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(Gen 1:27) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(Gen 1:31) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

(Gen 2:7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

OK--- Adam was made from dust on day 3---Gen 2:7- But he was created in the image of God on day 6, at which time he became a living soul, what was he between day 3 and day 6 if he was not a living soul?-- Gen 1:27. Then he found himself in body of flesh after he sinned,

Aman777 said:
True, but Adam was NOT made in a body of flesh, but instead, in an immortal body like the body of Jesus. He found himself in a body of flesh AFTER he sinned

then He was made a spiritual body after Cain and Abel sinned

Aman777 said:
After Cain killed Abel, Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually by the Trinity.

---so how many times was he created???

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

joshua 1 9 said:
Adam lived in the Garden of Eden and he ate the same food that we eat today.

Really? How do you know that the food on Adam's Earth was the same as we eat today. Can you support your beliefs Scripturally. I don't think so.

*** His body came from the "dust of the ground," what made him different from the animals was the "breath of life".

Show us Scripturally that the animals which the Lord made from the ground did not have the breath of life. According to Gen 2:7 Adam was made a living soul. (Hebrew-being) Were the animals NOT living beings?

***Today we have the Holy Spirit given when we are born again. Those that are not born of God will perish in the same way the animals perish. As Peter says: "like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed," 2 Pet 2:12

The living creatures that moveth were "created" by the Trinity (God). Gen 1:21 Everything God "creates" including Humans, are Eternal creatures. Unreasoning animals are those who do NOT have Adam's and God's intelligence. Gen 3:22 That is the difference Scripturally. Show us Scripturally where they will NOT go to Heaven, if you can. Amen?

-57 · Dec 30, 2015

joshua 1 9 said:
Words are very important and the key word here that everyone seems to agree on in Genesis 2:4-7 is: "generations". This is the reason that Peter says: "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." On day three God created the plants. The plants had to produce the oxygen for oxygen based life to evolve.

Christian belieff is that there is only one God. Not 3. It's called a trinity.

-57 · Dec 30, 2015

ewq1938 said:
No, you don't know what you are talking about. What religion/denomination has taught you this nonsense?

One thing I do know..it wasn't the Baptist.

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

UnScriptural, since the 7th Day is FUTURE. We live today at Gen 1:27 because God (Trinity) is STILL creating Adam (Heb-mankind) in His Image which is in Christ Spiritually. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of events which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet to rule and reign for a thousand years. Amen?

ewq1938 said:
No, you don't know what you are talking about. What religion/denomination has taught you this nonsense?

Are you saying that it's too late to be born again Spiritually by the Trinity today? Do you also think we have dominion over "every living creature" today as Gen 1:28 clearly states? Remember that Angels are living creatures too, along with Viruses, Mosquitoes, and Polar Bears.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

ALSO, when in the past did "every" creature wherein there is life, including Bears and Lions eat green herbs for meat as Gen 1:30 plainly states?

Fool us and show us that your religion/denomination can answer the above. God Bless you

-57 · Dec 30, 2015

Aman777 said:
UnScriptural, since the 7th Day is FUTURE.

You haven't even come close to demonstrating that yet.

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

mmksparbud said:
What prehistoric peoples?? That is evolution, it is not found in the bible---I asked for biblical statements---where are the biblical statements of a prehistoric peoples? There is no mention of them in Gen 1 or 2.

Evolution is nothing more than changes within His and Their kinds. Godless evolution goes further than the definition of evolution, which is changes in the genetics of living creatures within a population over time. Just because Godless men changed the name from changes within kinds to "evolution" does not mean that there is ANY difference.

*** I didn't ask about Adam's age, the bible states his age at his death.

I was answering your question about the chronology of Adam. Be nice now.

*** HUH?? What is the difference between being formed from dust in an immortal body, but not born spiritually ,Eternally, by God. Immortal body, eternal spiritual body---what makes the difference? You are saying they are both eternal. How do you reconcile that with :

*** (1Ti 6:15) Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
(1Ti 6:16) Who ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Amen, since ONLY God is Immortal and the ONLY way to become immortal is to be in Christ Spiritually and the ONLY way to be in Christ, is to be born again by the AGREEMENT of the Trinity. Gen 1:26 AND John 14:16

(Gen 1:26) And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Thanks for posting what I just told you. Can you tell us HOW to be born again Spiritually WITHOUT the agreement of the Trinity? Of course not.

(Gen 1:27) So God (Elohim-the Trinity) created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

See? We are created in God's Image, which is CHRIST according to Colossians 1:15, since Jesus IS the Image of the invisible God (Trinity) as I posted.

***(Gen 1:31) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

This is at the end of the present 6th Day since God would NEVER say that it is very good until it is perfect and that will NOT happen until Jesus returns to this planet to give mankind dominion or rule over Angels 1Co 6:3 and to change ALL other living creatures, including Lions and Bears into Vegetarians as Gen 1:30 clearly states. Read of the fulfillment of this prophecy in Isa 11:1-7

***(Gen 2:7) And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

*** OK--- Adam was made from dust on day 3---Gen 2:7- But he was created in the image of God on day 6, at which time he became a living soul,

You are confused since a living soul (heb-being) is a living being and NOT a Spiritual Being, since a Spiritual Being is an Eternal Being.

*** what was he between day 3 and day 6 if he was not a living soul?-- Gen 1:27.

Adam was a living soul/being and NOT a Spiritual being until AFTER Eve was made Gen 2:22 on the present 6th Day. Notice that Adam AND Eve were born again Spiritually at the SAME time. Gen 5:1-2 and Gen 1:27

*** Then he found himself in body of flesh after he sinned,
then he was made a spiritual body after Cain and Abel sinned

Amen.

*** ---so how many times was he created???

Jesus "formed" Adam on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:7
God the Trinity "created" Adam in Christ Spiritually on the 6th Day. Gen 5:1-2
Adam could NOT have been created Spiritually until the 6th Day since Eve was NOT made until the 6th Day Gen 2:22 and God (Trinity) called THEIR name Adam in the Day they were created Spiritually. Gen 5:1-2 Amen?

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

-57 said:
Christian belieff is that there is only one God. Not 3. It's called a trinity.

Then please explain why God said "Let US make man in OUR Image after OUR likeness". God is ONE and has but ONE Image and His name is Jesus, for Jesus IS the ONE Image of the invisible Spirit of God. Col 1:15

Aman777 · Dec 30, 2015

-57 said:
One thing I do know..it wasn't the Baptist.

False, as Brother Lester Roloff would tell you. He's in heaven now but while on Earth he was an Independent Baptist known Nationwide. Amen?

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