Adam, Eve, and Evolution

[Diamond72]

Do you feel it's necessary to use a serious discussion on theology as a springboard for these kinds of remarks?

When were you ever serious? I love your sarcasm. I was raised with that kind of humor. We even wrote the book on it.

 

[AV1611VET]

When were you ever serious? I love your sarcasm. I was raised with that kind of humor. We even wrote the book on it.

His borders on blasphemy.

 

[Diamond72]

Why does Jonah call it a "great fish" ...

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

... when Jesus calls it a "whale"?

Can you answer the question of why did God confuse the language at the tower of Babel?

To keep humanity from being too powerful, and lapsing into the widespread sin which inspired the flood, God confuses human languages and scattered mankind around the world.

 

[Diamond72]

His borders on blasphemy.

Are you saying his remark accuses you of blasphemy? Is that a trick he uses to get away with flaming people?

 

[AV1611VET]

Can you answer the question of why did God confuse the language at the tower of Babel?

Some say -- (and I think it's plausible) -- that He confounded their language, so as to stunt the growth of technology, which was starting to get too far advanced for the time.

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you saying his remark accuses you of blasphemy? Is that a trick he uses to get away with flaming people?

I'm saying I consider this remark:

Nah, we're all doomed anyway. 4th chapter of Jude: "Neither shalt thou believe in evolution, else you'll go to hell and .be roasted over a slow fire and basted with soy sauce and green onions for all eternity. Selah"

... as borderline blasphemy.

 

[Diamond72]

But many people use it to bash the Bible.

No science can bash the Bible. I do see people use science to bash problems with translation and interpretation of the Bible.

 

[Diamond72]

I'm saying I consider this remark:

His remark is a characterization of what you are saying.

 

[Diamond72]

Some say -- (and I think it's plausible) -- that He confounded their language, so as to stunt the growth of technology, which was starting to get too far advanced for the time.

Sedan Hussain tried to rebuild the tower and he failed.

 

[AV1611VET]

No science can bash the Bible.

True science can't.

But false science* can.

* Or, as Paul calls it, "oppositions of science falsely so called."

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

 

[Diamond72]

From the scientific perspective in terms of space-time, God created the earth with evolutionary events, including dinosaurs, Neanderthals, etc., embedded in it.

Sounds a lot like Neil DeGrasse Tysons simulated world.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sedan Hussain tried to rebuild the tower and he failed.

Yes.

Babylon is due to be rebuilt.

 

[trophy33]

Sounds a lot like Neil DeGrasse Tysons simulated world.

The problem with the world being simulated is quite a fundamental one - our world is not binary, but quantum-mechanical. And thats most probably impossible to simulate.

 

[Diamond72]

True science can't.

But false science* can.

God gives us science so we can have a better understanding of our Bible. Science collects evidence that God gives us to examine and study. Archeology has been used for over 100 years to prove that the Bible is accurate and true.

 

[Diamond72]

Babylon is due to be rebuilt.

I think the Bible says Babylon will never be rebuilt. As far as I know, no one lives there today.

Isaiah 13:20-22

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20 Babylon will never rise again. Generation after generation will come and go, but the land will never again be lived in.[a] The nomads will not even camp there. The shepherds won’t let their sheep stay overnight. 21 The wild animals of the desert will make it their home. The houses will be haunted by howling creatures. Ostriches will live there, and the demons will come there to dance. 22 Hyenas and jackals will den within the palaces. Babylon’s days are numbered; her time of doom will soon be here.
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[AV1611VET]

God gives us science so we can have a better understanding of our Bible.

Exactly.

Science collects evidence that God gives us to examine and study.

Exactly.

Archeology has been used for over 100 years to prove that the Bible is accurate and true.

Inexactly.

 

[Diamond72]

Inexactly.

Archaeology will not and cannot prove the Bible to be the word of God; however, when archaeologists do their work of digging and sifting in the Middle Eastern part of the world, they find ancient sites that are consistent with the Bible's account.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think the Bible says Babylon will never be rebuilt. As far as I know, no one lives there today.

Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

 

[AV1611VET]

Archaeology will not and cannot prove the Bible to be the word of God; however, when archaeologists do their work of digging and sifting in the Middle Eastern part of the world, they find ancient sites that are consistent with the Bible's account.

Let's put it this way then:

Where archaeology supports the Bible, archaeology is right; but where archaeology disagrees with the Bible. archaeology is wrong.

How's that?

 

[trophy33]

Let's put it this way then:

Where archaeology supports the Bible, archaeology is right; but where archaeology disagrees with the Bible. archaeology is wrong.

How's that?

How about this: There is an objective "physical" reality. This reality is independent on the Bible or on our knowledge. It simply is. We can get to know it gradually, correcting and expanding our knowledge.