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Yup.
I have a feeling our "Blood Drinker" is more interested in sarcasm than the Truth.
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And it’s not as if it’s only stated once or twice but several times in different books and it says man was created in the beginning, not the middle, and not the end.
I have no earthly idea what you're talking about.The Bible says the heavens and the earth and man were created in the beginning. Your explanation puts man’s creation at the end of the time line, not the beginning.
Maybe you just can't tell the difference.Yup.
I have a feeling our "Blood Drinker" is more interested in sarcasm than the Truth.
He who is boneheaded, let him be boneheaded still.This kind of thinking is a result of not caring about what is true or not, it’s equivalent to simply replying “whatever, who cares”.
2 Peter 3:8 says a day is “like” (Hos) a thousand years and a thousand years is “like” (Hos) a day.
Yes, it does. But not in the beginning of Creation, is it? Day Six of Six, wasn't it. Pay attention, for crying out loud!The Bible says the heavens and the earth and man were created in the beginning.
Good grioef, see above, or if all e;lse fails, read Genesis.Your explanation puts man’s creation at the end of the time line, not the beginning.
Yes, it was pertinent there too, wasn't it? God isn't bound by time at all, ever. "Oh, but He was this time" is self-serving rubbish designed to keep a weakly formed strongly held doctrine from coming apart.This statement is made in reference to God’s slowness about His return, not creation.
Funny, it was still God doing the creating, wasn't it? You saying He was bound by time then? That "Psalm 9i0:4 "For in Your sight a thousand years are but a day that passes, or a watch of the night." Didn't apply then, but only when your doctrine agrees with it? No wonder fundies are ready to believe any hogwash that any slick scripture-twister invents!It doesn’t say that a day is a thousand years or a thousand years is a day and the creation account in Genesis
Translate to English, please.and Exodus 20:11 don’t say that the heavens and the earth were created “like” or “as”
Genesis says 6th day. Is one wrong, or are you simply misunderstanding one?(Hos) 6 days. Genesis 1:1 says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. In Matthew 19:4 Jesus says God made man and woman in the beginning.
If you put the creation of man at 6,000 years . Which I do not. This leaves the those who believe it literally stuck with the miserable "God made the Creation look older", which turns God into a con artist. No thanks, I'll pass on that one. My tolerance for hogwash is way too low for that.
According to Scvripture it was at the end of the "six days".that puts man’s creation right in the middle of the timeline, not the beginning, and if you follow along with the theory of evolution that puts man at the last 0.0075% of the timeline which is at the very very end.
And if Adam & Eve were created late on the 6th day, there are your numbers.Since evolutionists claim that the earth is 4 billion years old and man has existed for 300,000 years that means that man’s existence has only been 0.0075% of the creation of the world.
Neither does Scripture, go back and read it.So no matter if you believe the world took 6,000 years or 4 billion years neither of these put man’s creation at the beginning.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with this discussion.Not only that Paul said in Romans 5 that death came into the world thru Adam’s transgression.
The Bible silent on the subject, and opinions are worth the price charged.According to the theory of evolution death came into the world millions of years before Adam was created. Evolution is not biblical.
Maybe you just can't tell the difference.
BTW, I take it you're a grape juice sipper.
Figures.
"hard saying, who can hear it?", right?
Sure. Then "God Just Made It Look Old". God as pracical joker or con arttist? God just having a laugh at our expense?Do you feel it's necessary to use a serious discussion on theology as a springboard for these kinds of remarks?
Okay then if we take it as a literal 24-hour day?
Could have? Certainly. He's God. Your lot generally takes it to mean a "day" must either mean 24 hours or 1000 years, which is simply reading with brain disengaged. But the evidence of the Creation Itself (yeah, I know it Doesn't Count) looks a zillion years old. You have to explain that away, and generally do a really embarassing job when you try.Have you ever noticed that those who think like this always use that passage to say a day could be more than a 24-hour period?They never use it to say it could be less than a 24-hour period as well.
St. Peter was applying it to the latter, but it applies to both, unless you'd like to argue that sometimes is is bound by time and sometines He ain't. Which is simply nonsense.I agree and the context that the verse is being used is not referring to creation but the slowness of God’s return.
Yep. In any case, whether it has any bearing on your doctrine or not. God Isn't Bound By Time! At All! Ever! Whether Your Favorite Doctrine Requires Him To Be Or NotSome people read that passage and see a day is like a thousand years but the verse also says a thousand years is like a day. This is alluding to God’s omnipresence not how long each day of creation took. Not to mention that the word Hos is used meaning “as” or “like” which is not present in the Genesis creation days.
I mean ... if one day is a thousand years, can one day be one second?
They didn't have to, God did.Since academia can't cram their 14 billion years into 6 days
Take your choice. We say "God Can't", we say "God Did!, they use that passage to try and balloon 6 days into 14 billion years.
Probably because your interpretation is ridiculous.Then they have a cow when others won't accept their interpretation.
According to Scripture it was at the end of the "six days".
Sure. Then "God Just Made It Look Old". God as pracical joker or con arttist? God just having a laugh at our expense?
Could have? Certainly. He's God. Your lot generally takes it to mean a "day" must either mean 24 hours or 1000 years, which is simply reading with brain disengaged. But the evidence of the Creation Itself (yeah, I know it Doesn't Count) looks a zillion years old. You have to explain that away, and generally do a really embarassing job when you try.
St. Peter was applying it to the latter, but it applies to both, unless you'd like to argue that sometimes is is bound by time and sometines He ain't. Which is simply nonsense.
Yep. In any case, whether it has any bearing on your doctrine or not. God Isn't Bound By Time! At All! Ever! Whether Your Favorite Doctrine Requires Him To Be Or Not
They didn't have to, God did.
Take your choice. We say "God Can't", we say "God Did!
Probably because your interpretation is ridiculous.
Take, eat, this is some grape juice/a cracker. New Irrational Version. So much for Scriptural literalism. "But He can't have really meant that!"Grape juice, down the hatch in one drink.
And a wafer eater as well.
His Body. I leave Welchade and cookies as a little snackie for those who still can't handle that "hard saying".If you use blood for the drink, what do you use for the wafer?
You hash it out with St. Mark. You're the literalist, not me.Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
On the 6th day of six.It was at the beginning of the creation of mankind.
Boy, this just in...In other words, Adam & Eve were the first humans on Earth.
Sure. Then "God Just Made It Look Old".
You hash it out with St. Mark. You're the literalist, not me.
On the 6th day of six.
Too old for your porpoises.It looks old because it is old.
Sure, if you envision God as the tricksty sort. I don't.Can God make a dress tomorrow, so old it falls apart with age?
Sorry, the rubbish tends to look the same.
Something that Galilean Preacher said.
Probably wasn't important.
Pass the grape juice...
Sure, if you envision God as the tricksty sort. I don't.
Too old for your porpoises.
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