How does eveyrone stand on marijuana use? Personally I dont believe it un-christian like... what is eveyones view?
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Actually I am a Christian but can U still tell me...?
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Well I'm against it because its illegal and we're told to follow the laws and two because it messes with God's temple, our bodies. God supported us to get drunk or get high, plus that stuff can get you into a lot of trouble and lead to worse drugs.
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Rafael
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I believe it is medicinal and a blessing to those who are sick, and have seen it used in hospitals for chemotherapy. I don't know why it is against the law other than it coming across the border back in the twenties and thirties with Mexican people and it being used against them by politicians needing to pad their positions with lies against them. "Reefer" madness is a good example of the lies spead. I remember when Nixon had commisioned a group to study and report to him how dangerous the drug was and when the report was brought in it was buried because it was too positve.
It's actually too bad that this mania persists about a non addictive drug that has never been fully studied as for its benefits. A side benefit is that the fibers of the plant are so strong that they could effectivily reduce the need for cutting down so many trees in our forests. Hemp makes excellent lumber and clothing.
As the others have said, though, getting caught with it in this country isn't worth the penalties as the laws against it's use and sale are incredibly stiff, so don't mess with it.
I don't think anyone will ever know how beneficial the drug could have been if really studied and looked at without all the paranoia and lies that have been associated to it.
It's actually too bad that this mania persists about a non addictive drug that has never been fully studied as for its benefits. A side benefit is that the fibers of the plant are so strong that they could effectivily reduce the need for cutting down so many trees in our forests. Hemp makes excellent lumber and clothing.
As the others have said, though, getting caught with it in this country isn't worth the penalties as the laws against it's use and sale are incredibly stiff, so don't mess with it.
I don't think anyone will ever know how beneficial the drug could have been if really studied and looked at without all the paranoia and lies that have been associated to it.
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William Nunn
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It could be used for useful things - but let's face it, the VAST majority of it's use revolves around getting high. And people can say it has no negative effects, but I've seen people who it has nearly ruined. If not physically addictive, it can be highly addictive psychologically.
And when you get high, you are no longer sober. And the we are commanded to be sober-minded at all times.
And like it has been said before. It is illegal - and we are to obey the law, as long as it doesn't go against the Lord's commands. And I highly doubt the Lord encourages us smoking pot.
And when you get high, you are no longer sober. And the we are commanded to be sober-minded at all times.
And like it has been said before. It is illegal - and we are to obey the law, as long as it doesn't go against the Lord's commands. And I highly doubt the Lord encourages us smoking pot.
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I think it has a purpose. I definitetly support it for medicinal purposes, it works and it's natural. I would also rather see it legal over alcohol, there wouldn't be so much fighting. 
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Hey ... this topic has been a major issue that I struggled with for the last two years. I think that it comes down to this: being high, how does it honour God? I think it's the same thing as being drunk, and the bible is clear on being against that. In NO WAY does being high honour God. I have missed a few chances to be able to witness on what He's done for me all because I couldn't think straight... talk about a hipocrit, hey?
That being said, I think that a Christian doing drugs comes along with too much shock value. Again, it's the same thing as being drunk. Of course it's a sin, but every christian who I have told about my prior problems with pot have told been disgusted - the "how could you DO THAT?!?" kind of thing. To me, I think that it's not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be, but again .. It's a sin, simple as that. The fact that it changes our mindset and clouds our perception of what's going on around us is what makes it dangerous, I have done many dumb things I wouldn't have done when of sober mind.
Medicinal purposes is what kind of flips my opinion though - if someone is slowly dying in pain, why shouldn't they enjoy life as much as they can and feel better? Pot lessens pain by approx. 85% and also lessens nausia by a considerable amount...
That being said, I think that a Christian doing drugs comes along with too much shock value. Again, it's the same thing as being drunk. Of course it's a sin, but every christian who I have told about my prior problems with pot have told been disgusted - the "how could you DO THAT?!?" kind of thing. To me, I think that it's not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be, but again .. It's a sin, simple as that. The fact that it changes our mindset and clouds our perception of what's going on around us is what makes it dangerous, I have done many dumb things I wouldn't have done when of sober mind.
Medicinal purposes is what kind of flips my opinion though - if someone is slowly dying in pain, why shouldn't they enjoy life as much as they can and feel better? Pot lessens pain by approx. 85% and also lessens nausia by a considerable amount...
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Have you ever smoked weed? I have. A lot. It completely strips you of motivations and because of the guilt it keeps you coming back. Sit down and have some conversations with all the pot heads I hung out with in high school. Dead brain cells and zero motivation. I think medicinal purposes are useful, but being stoned puts you in the same state as being drunk. The sins you commit tend to be less violent, but none the less you will do things you would not do sober minded. Being a sluggard is sinful(proverbs). Another thing about weed vs alchohol is that you can have a beer and not be drunk at all, but if you get good weed all it takes is one hit and your flying. And of course why would anyone waste there time with bad weed, the whole point is to get stoned.
For the most part I would have to agree with Laura_Lynn.
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As an ex-stoner, I agree. It took too much of my life away.marc said:Raphe,
Have you ever smoked weed? I have. A lot. It completely strips you of motivations and because of the guilt it keeps you coming back. Sit down and have some conversations with all the pot heads I hung out with in high school. Dead brain cells and zero motivation. I think medicinal purposes are useful, but being stoned puts you in the same state as being drunk. The sins you commit tend to be less violent, but none the less you will do things you would not do sober minded. Being a sluggard is sinful(proverbs). Another thing about weed vs alchohol is that you can have a beer and not be drunk at all, but if you get good weed all it takes is one hit and your flying. And of course why would anyone waste there time with bad weed, the whole point is to get stoned.
For the most part I would have to agree with Laura_Lynn.
In Christ
Marc
I think the major problem is, if you smoke, you tend to want to do it every day. I know I did.:o
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Marijuana is part of part of God's creation and cannot therefore be inherantly Bad with a capital B - it can be misused however so I have no problem with it's medicinal use but I think it is analagous to alcohol
Proverbs 23
20 Do not join those who drink too much wine
or gorge themselves on meat,
21 for drunkards and gluttons become poor,
and drowsiness clothes them in rags.
Proverbs 23
20 Do not join those who drink too much wine
or gorge themselves on meat,
21 for drunkards and gluttons become poor,
and drowsiness clothes them in rags.
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ChrisB said:
God created cake too, but indulging in that every day is gonna make you very ill. As i'm finding out now i'm self employed
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Morally, I'm against it. The Bible says, referring to wine, to abstain from intoxication. I believe that principle applies here, too. Since the only purpose of pot is intoxication (and just so you know, I was a heavy pot smoker for several years), I can't see any valid excuse for recreational use.
That having been said, I do believe that it should be OK'd for medicinal use.
That having been said, I do believe that it should be OK'd for medicinal use.
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I wish I had never got involved with it. Not that I do it now, but I got my girlfriend at the time hooked on it, and she's a mess now. Also my friend now has to do it every day in order to sleep, and it's messing him up.
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I've got at least three friends in the exact same situation, not being able to sleep at night unless they smoke. It's sad to see! I went on a trip with one of these friends, and when he wasn't able to get any weed for two days, it was as if he was going through withdrawl. He didn't eat anything and was up tossing and turning all of both nights. How can we say it's not addicting after time when people can't function without it?? Mind you, he had been smoking it daily for the past three years. Who knows what that was all about...Svt4Him said:
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Perry Wade-Carter said:
Hi there!
Well, first of all, we are told in the Word of God to submit to the authority of the land
1 Peter 2:13-15 13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; 14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. 15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
And even if it were legal to use, there is still the consideration that what is "good" is not necessarily good for you. Additionally, if it were a stumbling block to you and your Christian walk or a stumbling block to another, then it should be avoided.
~serapha~
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