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According to Dr Michael Shermer, There Is No God

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Well Thomas there is only one True God. The others are idol's and have no power. The supernatural behind these idol's are demons. The truth is that to not believe in God takes more faith than to believe in God. Because the evidence of God and Jesus is overwhelming.
Really? What is this evidence? When I have asked this question in the past people that have made that claim have only demonstrated that they do not understand the concept of evidence.
 
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Really? What is this evidence? When I have asked this question in the past people that have made that claim have only demonstrated that they do not understand the concept of evidence.
Jesus rose from the tomb.
 
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look around what happens: people doing harm to each other. Do you think this is nice? Everyone does what they want and then we see people harming each other.

Oh, I'll stay away from you then. I said to do whatever you want. If that includes hurting people, I'd rather not associate with you.

Edit - upon re-reading it seems you're not saying you would hurt people. Ok then. But you still dodged my point yet again. So I still see no need to get my answers from you. Thanks. I'll leave your thread.
 
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I thought that the nation of Israel committed idolatry and adultery with foreign Gods.

That was the real history of Israel but correct me if I am wrong.

You know, it's strange. If you offer a Christian $50 to bow down before a statue of the Buddha, they will refuse and take offense. And yet somehow the ancient Jews apparently saw God perform miracles right before their eyes and they still worshipped other gods. King Solomon was the wisest man in history and spoke to God in a dream, yet he allowed his wives to make altars to other gods.

Why? Are modern Christians smart and were ancient Jews stupid? Or maybe they believed in many gods back then and just favored Jehovah, like characters in Game of Thrones.
 
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Really? What is this evidence? When I have asked this question in the past people that have made that claim have only demonstrated that they do not understand the concept of evidence.
Archeology, all documented evidence of the death, burial, and resurrection from Jewish and Roman historians. The evidence that the Bible is true. This is all overwhelming evidence.
 
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Archeology, all documented evidence of the death, burial, and resurrection from Jewish and Roman historians. The evidence that the Bible is true. This is all overwhelming evidence.
At best there is only some evidence that Jesus existed. It is not very strong. You could not even mention specific examples. Right now you appear to be putting Jesus in the same category as Spiderman.
 
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believe or don't believe that is your choice. You will bow before Christ. I would encourage you to watch the documentary The Case for Christ which has all the historical evidence your looking for.
 
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believe or don't believe that is your choice. You will bow before Christ. I would encourage you to watch the documentary The Case for Christ which has all the historical evidence your looking for.
No, The Case for Christ appears to only be a series of bad arguments. You claimed there was overwhelming evidence for Christianity. At best you have only demonstrated a lack of understanding of what is and what is not evidence.
 
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No, The Case for Christ appears to only be a series of bad arguments. You claimed there was overwhelming evidence for Christianity. At best you have only demonstrated a lack of understanding of what is and what is not evidence.
Ok how about Shroud of Turin?
 
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GOD is before all these myths and distortions of the TRUTH...and these myths and suggestions and distortions are simply the work of satan who taught superstitious men, who knew of god but did not know GOD, how to practice divination, how to delve into spiritual realms...but the voice that they heard, were not GOD´S voice, but satan, who took the TRUTH and twisted it,

Satan knew THE TRUTH from the beginning too, he knew GOD´S plan from the beginning...but instead of speaking the TRUTH, he lied, and twisted and offered bits and pieces of the truth, so as to cause confusion and doubt...

Men think that myths (satanś work of deception and confusion) were before GOD, but all myths were were distortions of GOD´S TRUTH
 
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It is a shame that brilliant men, don´t even consider this...
More likely because they deny spirits to begin with...they deny the truth of a spiritual realm and a spiritual battle going on right before them for the souls of men...their soul included...

I am sure that this man does this in ignorance...but think of how many he could steer away from the TRUTH of the GOSPEL...

I saw young men in the audience, Oxford/any college is our next generation of young adults.

What better place for satan to lay his perishable seed for death...
 
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I assume atheists can be good scientists.
Sure. But I was responding to Dr. Shermer's claim of "religions predating Christianity that also had a redeemer-God" and such. That field of study is historical, not scientific. It's the realm of scholars, not scientists.
 
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It is a shame that brilliant men, don´t even consider this...
More likely because they deny spirits to begin with...they deny the truth of a spiritual realm and a spiritual battle going on right before them for the souls of men...their soul included...

I am sure that this man does this in ignorance...but think of how many he could steer away from the TRUTH of the GOSPEL...

I saw young men in the audience, Oxford/any college is our next generation of young adults.

What better place for satan to lay his perishable seed for death...

i see that u talk about spirits, not very scientific realy..?
 
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