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If truth be told, I'm a little wary about posting this prayer request. I mean, I've never really turned to anyone for help, especially not for spiritual guidance. It's an admission of weakness, I suppose. Asking for help and advice, that is.

Well, at any rate, since I have nobody to turn to, I might as well give this forum a shot. See, my situation is a rather precarious one. I'm eighteen years of age, a Norwegian citizen, and about to move to London. Admittedly, in and of itself, there's nothing wrong with that; everyone must come to terms with adulthood at one point in time. But things run deeper than what they ostensibly seem.

Ever since my early childhood, I've been left to fend for myself -- be it scholastically or socially. Sure enough, my parents have been a great support, so have my two brothers, but there's just this thorn; this malign cancer, burrowed deep within the depths of my soul, tearing at my perception of reality. I can't seem to relate to people and, conversely, people can't seem to relate to me. In fact, it has gotten to the point where I'm beginning to question every facet of my existence -- whether life is truly worth pursuing knowing I'm infected with a debilitating disease of apathy and indifference.

I don't know what to do, I honestly don't. I've prayed many times for some sort of final, unequivocal answer. An end to this state I'm in. But I've never been answered. This burden -- this abused, battered and depressed shell that I call my own, God-given Soul - won't disappear. Maybe it's a self-inflicted condition; maybe I'm destined to a life of misery. Maybe I deserve it. I can't tell... I'm too confused... I need answers.
 
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Are we talkng about that feeling of aloneness even when surrounded by people who love me and yet didn't understand me as I didn't understand them. Many things went into my recovery from that feeling. It didn't happen instantaneously but was a process that is still going on. The Prayer of St. Francis is a good synopses of the process

Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.
O, Divine Master,
grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love;
for it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.




Pray this prayer every morning and watch during the dy for the oppurtunity to fulfill what it says and you will come to realize in time that you are not alone.
 
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From the bottom of my heart, thank you. Thank you for taking the time to lighten one man's burden. I really appreciate it. I really do.

As for the prayer you listed, the instant I read it, I felt a surge of hope and promise issue from the core of my Soul; my Being. Maybe my fate is not consigned to that of the proverbial outsider. Maybe my true purpose is to spread happiness, joy, and optimism - to fight back, not capitulate. Still, there's a lot more to work on. I've got to reconfigure my mindset and that requires a lot. Hopefully, however, some of the strain lessens as you go along. Hopefully...

Come to think about it, my sullen state is not so much a question of being miserable or not, but rather about finding my own, God-vested identity. See, in all my life, I've been sort of lost. That is, I've never really come to know myself; what makes me tick; my inner workings. That's one reason why I've suffered from depression lately. I can't come to terms with the fact that although I'm moving away from my home and family, I have yet to truly discover my identity. A strange, somewhat scary, thought; extricating yourself from something familiar and comforting, and establishing a new life elsewhere...

Hmm, well, those things aside, things are already becoming clearer and clearer by the minute. Who knows, perhaps I'll someday find myself content and satisfied? Thanks again, Lion!
 
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BenNilsen said:
From the bottom of my heart, thank you. Thank you for taking the time to lighten one man's burden. I really appreciate it. I really do.

Your welcome. The real joy for me is in being given the oppurtunity to be an instrument. That way I'm not looking for gratitude from those who may benefit from a selfless act towards them on my part.

I've got to reconfigure my mindset and that requires a lot. Hopefully, however, some of the strain lessens as you go along. Hopefully...

Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace.

The prayer asks God to do this for me as I'm not capable of doing it without Him giving me a new heart. Although I may be able to mimic the actions it will degenerate into codependency. My definition of codependency is doing the right thing for the wrong reasons resulting in despair, despondency and depression.
My mind cannot heal my mind. That is why God is so important in this.


I have yet to truly discover my identity. A strange, somewhat scary, thought; extricating yourself from something familiar and comforting, and establishing a new life elsewhere...

I was twice your age before I even had an inkling that I had an identity.:blush: :). It'll come...in God's time, meanwhile be content and enjoy where you are at while striving for higher levels of the spirit.

Who knows, perhaps I'll someday find myself content and satisfied? Thanks again, Lion!

No perhaps about it. It is simply (but so hard sometimes) being grateful for what God has given me already as opposed to focusing on what I want.
Develop an attitude of gratitude.

God Bless.
 
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I've struggled with the same problem. Ever since I was young, I've been bullied by peers. Till this day, i don't know why they hated me so much. I thought that it was because of me. So i changed and became ignorant, selfish. I became not so good of a person. Then people still treated me poorly. So I hid my true self completely and wore a mask.

I was alone and I was grateful to meet great friends. I never thought I would ever find them. But, something was missing. Every where I went i still didn't fit in. I also became depressed and started cutting. not deep. Just enough for it to bleed. I almost committed suicide. I am ashamed of that. I was week to even think of ending everything. But then, just this year, the beginning of grade 12, my sister, persauded by her friend to come to church, persuaded me to come to her church. I went and wow. I felt loved by God because of the people's hospitality. I started to have a relationship with God. Let me say, I was a catholic, but it has it's boundaries for having a personal relationship with God. The time I was really depressed i hated God:mad: . I always wondered why did u make me like this?What did i do to deserve this hatred from people.

But, when i welcomed God into my heart, my life changed. It took getting use to, but it was amazing. I've learned so much. I read something from this book called, Purpose Driven Life. It was so powerful to me. I think God spoke through that book. He was comforting me.:)

The author of the book (Rick Warren) gave a bible verse. The bibles says, "It's in Christ that we find out who we are and what we are living for. Long before we first heard of Christ and got our hopes up, he had his eye on us, had designs on us for glorious living, part of the overall purpose he is working out in everything and everyone."

He said that this verse gives us three insights into your purpose.
1. You discover your identity and purpose through a relationship with Jesus Christ. (if u don't have one, he explains how to get one)
2.God was thinking of you long before you ever thought about him. His purpose for your life predates your conception. He planned it before you existed, without your input. You may choose your career, your spouse, your hobbies, and many other parts of your life, but you don't get to choose your purpose.
3. The purpose of your life fits into a much larger, cosmic purpose that God had designed for eternity.

He goes on to explain more useful things.
But the thing that really captured me was this. "God never does anything accidentally, and he never makes mistakes. He has a reason for everything he creates. Every plant and every animal was planned by God, and every person was designed with a purpose in mind. God's motive for creating you was his love. The Bible says, 'Long before he laid down earth's foundations, he had us in mind, had settled on us as the focus of his love.'
"God was thinking of you even before he made the world. In fact, that's why he created it. God designed this planet's environment just so we could live in it. We are the focus of his love and the most valuable of all his creation"

After just reading that, I became emotional:blush: Ya....I felt his love.

At times i feel lonely. I feel like I don't fit in, but I know that God is there for me as my creator, lord, father, and friend. I may not see him but Jesus said that "God will bless you people who are crying. You will laugh. God will bless you when others hate you and won't have anything to do with you. God will bless you when people insult you and say cruel things about you, all because you are a follower of the Son of Man. Long ago your own people did these sames things to the prophets. So when this happens to you, be happy and jump for joy. You will have a great reward in heaven" Luke 6:21-23

And God promises rewards in Heaven.^_^ So now I walk on knowing that God loves me and that he will never stop protecting me.

Thank you for reading this loooonnng reply. lol. It's so long. I don't blame you if you don't read it.

I will pray for you and for everyone who is suffering through hard times. But remember God is there for you.

God bless.
 
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BenNilsen said:
If truth be told, I'm a little wary about posting this prayer request. I mean, I've never really turned to anyone for help, especially not for spiritual guidance. It's an admission of weakness, I suppose. Asking for help and advice, that is.

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It is never a sign of weakness to ask for prayer...but instead a sign of humble courage. I admire you for your strength! I pray that you find peace through the Prince of Peace--Jesus Christ. With Him you are never alone.
 
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In acting on your prayer to become God's instrument of peace, start looking at people with a question in your mind, "what are their strengths, and how would God want to use them?" If you help lift others up to their greatest potential, their focus will be off of picky details of popularity, and you both will be moving forward.

Some people are lonely simply because they see that those around them are self-serving. We all are in one way or another. We pray that in the move, you will find a nice group of friends with similar interests and motivations.
 
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I know that shell! I wear it too! :hug:

I will pray for you that you discover happiness and hwo to relate to people in a staisfying way. It may not happen overnight. It may be something you need to learn to do. This has been the case for me, and even so I am still working on it.

Thing is, I know I am not working on it alone. The Holy spirit is right there with me and that helps me not to despair from trying to carry an impossible load all on my own.

I hope your move goes well and that the change of venue does you good! :hug:
 
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I'd like to say one thing. In order to find the identity that the Lord Jesus has for you, you must first accept him as your Lord and savior, asking him for forgiveness of sins and inviting him into your life. This is, by far, the largest part of the identity he has for everyone. It is the missing part out of everyone's identity that must be replaced before you can move forward to find out his purpose for your life. Remember also that he made you just so he could love you. And that is the most awesome purpose you could have. By doing as I said above you allow the fullness of his love upon you. You find out who were made to be when you and Christ have that loving relationship together.
 
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Admitting you have a problem and reaching out are first steps to recovery and growth, not the sign of weakness it may seem.

I've had many of those same feelings and problems. If you want to see an example of what God can do in your life, see my website which is listed on my profile page. I not only know who I am now, I love myself - the person God has made me into, the person He intended for me to be all along.

Phil 1:6
6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
(NIV)

A Christian support and recovery group can help tremendously. People who are learning together the wonderful ways of God and of His changes in them. Some groups meet at churches, or large churches could tell you about ones in the area.

God bless you, friend. Please pm me if you wish. Aloha in Jesus
 
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Have you looked for any forum members from London?
http://www.christianforums.com/f206-uk-british-ireland.html The forum has a spot for UK members...you might get some ideas for churches and groups to visit.

I saw something on the telly (my lame effort) about scattered bohemian youth centers right inside London, I don't remember much. Also, I think theres' a new Youth for Christ centre in Wandsworth, South London.
 
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We need Christ to make us complete , to make us new and whole.

without Christ I was so empty inside, I had no peace, no joy, no one tthat truly loved me and cared about me . When I heard about how much God loved me and what He had done for me, that He loved me, ME? so much that He sent His son to die for every horrible stinking sin I had ever done, that He would make me HIS CHILD, HIS VERY OWN LOVED CHILD.WOWWWWWW ..Then I went to an old fashioned altar , fell on my knees in tears and cried out to the only one who had ever truly shown love for me and asked His forgivness of my sins and invited Him into my heart as my Lord and my Saviour.

When I got up from that altar, it was like the weight of the world had been lifted off of my shoulders. i cant explain just how good it felt. I had PEACE, PEACE O WHAT SWEET PEACE I FELT ALL THRU ME.

I was laughing and crying and thanking God for that and still today I thank Him for saving me. That was over thirty years ago.

O aint God soooo sooooooooo good? Yes amen HE IS!

My friend you will never experience this kind of peace and joy until you receive Christ into your heart as your saviour.

This world and all that it knows or has cannot do what Christ can do for you in one minute of time.

God loves you so very much my friend and only wants to make You His very own child.

Christ died for every sin you have ever commited.
He made a way for YOU MY FRIEND, FOR YOU.

And YOU too can have this peace and joy and rest in Christ.

all you need do is repent of your sins and receive God's son , JESUS CHRIST into your heart as your saviour.

I pray that you make the right decision for your soul my friend. I pray that you do.

If I can be of any help to you please please let me know.

my email address is evangelistonlineforgod2001@yahoo.com

In Christ's service always, evang.smth
 
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Before I delve into the individual posts and prayers each of you so kindly bestowed upon me, I would just like to thank you for your time and immense altruism. Without your aid these last days, I don't know what would have become of me. I really don't.

Just a week ago I found myself weeping uncontrollably one late night. Completely without forewarning, I had been instantaneously thrust into an emotional state I've never encountered in the past. Everything just blurred into a thick haze and I proceeded to descend into an even more profusely tragic depression. Deep-seated emotions (traumae even) from my childhood began to resurface. Days of agony spent nursing an ill parent, a career-driven, absent father, my best friend's untimely death, feelings of guilt, bad choices followed by a bad conscience -- all compounded together to form an overwhelming feeling of utter, debilitating shame.

But, surprisinly enough, after some minutes had passed, after reliving those very memories that comprise my present identity, an unspoken reality dawned on me. Something that had been persistently supressed, forgotten, was suddenly illuminated. All in an instant! In my entire life I've thought of myself as a subject of circumstance, for better or worse. I've regarded myself as the quintessential victim -- consigned to a life of passivity and idleness. But that's not how life works! That's what this epiphany instilled in me! A sense of strength -- if ever so minute - that enabled me to pick up the slack reins that had been lying before me my entire life.

No longer will I point the finger and shift the blame. The blame lies solely in myself, my naive belief in an arbitrary existence, and the meaninglessness inherent in this worldview. See, without the presence of some sort of Divine Being, some sort of moral compass, this mortal life we lead is essentially a void. We're mere vacuous shells; faceless hulks, travelling through a lonely, desolate universe. That's where my despair stemmed from: the disbelief -- as opposed to the genuine belief - in a benign God and the love with which he created us.

It all makes sense now. I have been put on this Earth for a definite purpose. What that purpose is, I don't know. I can only hope that through a dialogue with God and His people, it might materialize gradually, revealing a fragment of celestial bliss. Trust me, I've never felt so optimistic in my life.
Allunderheaven:
I've struggled with the same problem. Ever since I was young, I've been bullied by peers. Till this day, i don't know why they hated me so much. I thought that it was because of me. So i changed and became ignorant, selfish. I became not so good of a person. Then people still treated me poorly. So I hid my true self completely and wore a mask...

As much as people want to deny it, there's evil abroad. It lurks in every corner, it manifests itself in the strangest ways. Many call bullies lost souls, they gloss their behaviour over as a byproduct of poor choices and equally poor upbringing. But I'm not so sure. Not after having experienced my share of it at least.

Because they are so predatory in their ways, so ruthless and indifferent to the individual they hurt, they embody a set of traits we don't otherwise associate with the God-fearing individuals. Call it evil, call it malplaced love, there's no denying the fact that what they're doing; what they're exacting unto us passive victims, is evil and utterly reprehensible. We can only distance ourselves from them and reclaim what they've so egregiously stolen from us: our confidence in a world devoid of predators and evil. Otherwise, their value-system prevails and this world turns into a dark, God-less universe.
Irenemcg:
Turn to the Lord Jesus today. He is crying out for you.

For once in my life, I can call myself a repentant soul. I can recognize my moral transgressions and, in so doing, plead their forgiveness for the wrongs I've imparted unto them. That's where Jesus comes into the picture for me -- notwithstanding any question as to wheter he's real or not. Jesus is the embodiment of all paragons, he's the Ideal to which we all ought to aspire. And with that respect his testament elicits, comes bouts of contrition and shame for our own inadequacies and our own faults.
That's why I cherish each and every tear he sheds for us. For in his rectitude and goodness, I can conceptualize my own reflection and thereby indulge the thought that maybe, just maybe, we humans have the potential to live up to his name.

heron:
Some people are lonely simply because they see that those around them are self-serving. We all are in one way or another. We pray that in the move, you will find a nice group of friends with similar interests and motivations.

In this day in age, we often speak about self-actualization without actually questioning the aspect of what enables one to actualize oneself. Many might for instance claim wealth and success is conducive to realizing ones identity. Others might counterclaim that and say that in order for a person to find his true self, he must render his services wholly to his community. I'm personally a favourite of the latter. And why? Because I know that for every grain of output you yield out of sheer good-will, another seed of good-will is planted.

Hopefully, by engaging in an environment that's open to giving, not taking, my self-actualization can be complete and, finally, I can find my true identity.

Supernova:
I'd like to say one thing. In order to find the identity that the Lord Jesus has for you, you must first accept him as your Lord and savior, asking him for forgiveness of sins and inviting him into your life. This is, by far, the largest part of the identity he has for everyone. It is the missing part out of everyone's identity that must be replaced before you can move forward to find out his purpose for your life. Remember also that he made you just so he could love you. And that is the most awesome purpose you could have. By doing as I said above you allow the fullness of his love upon you. You find out who were made to be when you and Christ have that loving relationship together.

I'll be the first one to admit that in the past, I've been very sceptical of Christianity. To a certain extent, I still am. I still have my doubts, my questions, but at this present moment I've made a choice: to temporarily reject my scepticism and place faith in a system that has rendered unto me a whole new perspective on Earth.

I mean, without embracing or even indulging the premise that there is a God, and that Jesus was his earthly manifestation, I can't claim to live a meaningful existence. In fact, without a Creator and without the belief in a purposeful existence, this whole life of ours implodes. It crumbles, shatters. And everything turns black. Forever. That's why I embrace the idea of a moral universe -- a world governed by the testament of God.
 
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Ben,
A lot is going on in your life! Thanks for sharing your epiphany with us. Sometimes we find that the Holy Spirit brings out these emotions, and what seems like despair is part of a mourning that heals wounds. We're so sorry to hear about your friend--was that recent?

"That's why I cherish each and every tear he sheds for us."
He intercedes on our behalf. Imagine, Someone that we think we need to please, is spending His time on getting us mercy!

I hope that this Fall goes well for you in London!
 
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It looks like the only thing left for you to do, if you haven't by now, is to bow your head and ask the Lord Jesus into your heart as your lord and savior and to wash you clean of your sins. You have been shown the truth of God and his unimaginable love for you. It was God himself who brought you to this knowledge.
 
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