Absolute proof.. can't deny.. the earth is flat

[Apple Sky]

1. both the sun and the moon would be visible all the time from all places on Earth.

Not necessarily, as the sun & the moon move within the firmament.

2. sunsets would not show the sun disappearing behind the horizon

This is out of perspective, the sun disappears as it move so far away we don't see it anymore & night time falls.

3. moon eclipses would not be possible

Why not ?

 

[pgp_protector]

Not necessarily, as the sun & the moon move within the firmament.



This is out of perspective, the sun disappears as it move so far away we don't see it anymore & night time falls.



Why not ?

So the top half of the sun is visible, but the bottom half is far away do to perspective?

 

[prodromos]

This is out of perspective, the sun disappears as it move so far away we don't see it anymore & night time falls.

Perspective makes distant objects appear smaller, but the sun does not change size as it moves across the sky, so no, it has nothing to do with perspective. You are simply repeating the lie put out by other flat earthers.
Also, even when a bright light source is so far away that it is too small to be discerned due to the resolution of the optics of our eyes, we can still see the light.

 

[HantsUK]

Perspective makes distant objects appear smaller, but the sun does not change size as it moves across the sky, so no, it has nothing to do with perspective. You are simply repeating the lie put out by other flat earthers.
Also, even when a bright light source is so far away that it is too small to be discerned due to the resolution of the optics of our eyes, we can still see the light.

And for someone else on the earth who is about 6 hours behind, the sun will be overhead.

 

[trophy33]

Not necessarily, as the sun & the moon move within the firmament.

The image placed them below the firmament, as always (interestingly, the stars are placed in the firmament, but not the sun and the moon - because of the obvious problem with their movement). However, even if they were withing the firmament, not sure why would they not be visible - the stars are.

This is out of perspective, the sun disappears as it move so far away we don't see it anymore & night time falls.

Impossible, we see the stars that are further away, even in your picture. Why would not we see the sun?

Why not ?

Because there is nothing to eclipse the moon, in your picture.

 

[Apple Sky]

Because there is nothing to eclipse the moon, in your picture.

You obviously have no idea the way eclipses work.

Impossible, we see the stars that are further away, even in your picture. Why would not we see the sun?

Sorry - I thought you on about sun sets ??

Perspective makes distant objects appear smaller, but the sun does not change size as it moves across the sky, so no, it has nothing to do with perspective.

 

[trophy33]

You obviously have no idea the way eclipses work.

Enlighten me.

 

[trophy33]

Sorry - I thought you on about sun sets ??

Why would the sun disappear if its still up there and nothing blocks our view?

 

[Apple Sky]

Why would the sun disappear if its still up there and nothing blocks our view?

 

[Apple Sky]

Enlighten me.

 

[prodromos]

As usual, Eric "the idiot" Dubay lies. The ancients could not predict eclipses with anything remotely approaching the accuracy that they are calculated today. He also doesn't explain "how" lunar eclipses occur. He just says they are "celestial", as if that makes everything clear. He also dismisses atmospheric refraction, an extremely well understood phenomenon, as the reason the sun and moon can both be seen on rare occasions during a lunar eclipse (each visible just above the horizon)

Gotta lie to flerf.

 

[prodromos]

Notice how the cyclist appeared to steadily get smaller as he got further way, unlike the sun which stays the same size as it crosses the sky. Notice how objects more distant than the cyclist were still visible. Notice how the photographer chooses a location where the hot surface causes a mirage effect when the camera is down low.
Notice how the sunset is consistent with most of the circle of the sun being hidden behind the horizon, and the curving in at the bottom is consistent with the mirage mirroring effect demonstrated by the cyclist footage before. The gap between the sun and the horizon only appears when the sun has almost completely disappeared over the horizon due to the mirage mirror effect. When the sun is higher there would be no gap but that is obscured by the low exposure earlier in the shot.

 

[Apple Sky]

Notice how the cyclist appeared to steadily get smaller as he got further way, unlike the sun which stays the same size as it crosses the sky.

Have you ever watched the sun set ?

 

[HantsUK]

This explanation contradicts the earlier YT video that you linked (post #1,690 and previous posts). For reference, here it is again:

These cannot both be right. So, which is it? You need to choose.

For us 'deluded globalists' both are nonsense. Both show that the flat earth explanations disagree with actual everyday observations.

With the sunset attempt, the sun is supposed to disappear into the distance as it sets. So, it must be moving extremely fast at this point. Also it must be be beyond the dome firmament, no longer inside it. But I have seen the sun drop below the horizon / vanishing point.

Photographing a sunset is difficult due to exposure and the very limited dynamic range of cameras.

I can tell the difference between a car that goes out of sight as it rounds a corner, and one that gradually gets smaller as it gets further away on a straight flat road. The sun behaves like a car going out of sight around a corner (but vertical movement, going down).

However, the earlier video shows the sun always above the earth, but only illuminating some of the earth's surface. Which implies the sun must be focused onto just an area of the earth. Like a spot light, not a round bulb. I have only seen a round sun (excepting sunrise and sun set). If it was a spot light, it would look elliptical most of the time. It would only look circular when directly overhead.

These flat earth 'explanations' are like filling in a crossword. Every horizontal answer that crosses "9 down" has a different answer to "9 down" (even then, most are the wrong length)

 

[Apple Sky]

This explanation contradicts the earlier YT video that you linked (post #1,690 and previous posts). For reference, here it is again:

These cannot both be right. So, which is it? You need to choose.

The first video was the showing of a model of the f/e, the second video is explaining where the sun goes.
So how are they contradicting each other ?

 

[prodromos]

Have you ever watched the sun set ?

Many times. I've also watched it rise many times. Eric "the idiot" Dubay repeats the flerf lie that the sun disappears due to the "Law of Perspective", but we've already demonstrated that to be a lie. He even proves it with his example at 1:51 where the row of light posts diminish in size as they get further away but the sun remains the same size throughout.

I don't know why you keep posting Eric's videos. He's proven himself to be a liar many times over in his videos. Not exactly what anyone could call a reliable source.

 

[trophy33]

Do not answer me with videos, tell me in your words. This is a conversation with you, not with youtubers. If you were unable to learn the answers from the videos you are posting yourself, I have no desire to watch them.

 

[Apple Sky]

Do not answer me with videos, tell me in your words.

Too much typing & don't forget ??????????? I'm on my own here.

 

[Apple Sky]

I don't know why you keep posting Eric's videos. He's proven himself to be a liar many times over in his videos. Not exactly what anyone could call a reliable source.

There's not many other flat earthers left on YouTube since YT decided to have a purge on them, they very often do this with subjects they don't want the masses to know about like the covid vaccines & Israel.
How ever there is always Bit-Chute, Rumble 0r 153 news.

 

[prodromos]

There's not many other flat earthers left on YouTube since YT decided to have a purge on them, they very often do this with subjects they don't want the masses to know about like the covid vaccines & Israel.
How ever there is always Bit-Chute, Rumble 0r 153 news.

Oh there are plenty of flat earthers on YouTube, but they are not the sort of people you would wish to be associated with as they use very colourful language to describe globe earthers