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Why do you need to get through the firmament to see them, then?
Why do you know so little about it, then?
You repeat we do not see them. I can see that we do not see them.The same reason you'd have to get through it to walk on the moon.
As for the stars & the moon we only see them at night & the sun daily.
The firmament doesn't stop their lights getting through, as this is the case the firmament must be crystal clear.
Nonsense. We see the moon plenty of times during the day, and Venus, Saturn and Jupiter are often visible during the day.As for the stars & the moon we only see them at night & the sun daily.
So why can't they be seen in the video you posted?The firmament doesn't stop their lights getting through, as this is the case the firmament must be crystal clear.
So why can't they be seen in the video you posted?
Nonsense. We see the moon plenty of times during the day, and Venus, Saturn and Jupiter are often visible during the day.
No, you haven't explained anything. All you do is make baseless claims and expect us to take them at face value. When we explain why your claims are false, you simply ignore the response and post some other stupid meme or video.I've already explained this if you care to go back and read.
All of you are wrong! The earth is not flat or round, we live in a holo projected chamber in a Borg cube, they are trying to assimilate us but they have trouble with all the different denominations and it is confusing to the Borg...
here is the proof;
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Hey guys, today we are going to find out what ancient Indians thought about the shape of the earth. Did they think the earth was flat? Or did they think the earth was round? First, Let us look at this visual, created according to an ancient Indian text. This is the flat earth model, it is made of up of 7 concentric oceans and land masses distributed on a flat plane. At the very center, you can see a beautiful island called Jambudweep, and you can see a golden mountain rising up like a cylinder, resembling the axis pole. So the flat disk is made of land and water, and at the end of this disk, there are large mountains surrounding this flat earth. This is a very interesting model, to see this giant wall surrounding the edge of the flat earth, because this is how the new flat earth model looks.
What you've told me is lies.
You know its sinful to claim someone is lying when they are not. I see no evidence to say @prodromos lied, at all, and I think this illustrates the problem with continuing in this conspiracy theory. You should apologize to him, I think.
I've provided evidence. You haven't.Why should I, he has accused me of lying enough.
-In The Bible with the birth of Jesus The Messiah. Is an example of satan using man to carry out something satan tried to accomplish. Which is trying to kill the Christ Child at an early age. Satan used Herod to put to death all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its districts, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the wise men.
Now as with God's creation given in The Bible. Satan again uses man and the field of science to accomplish a deception about God's creation. Because as The Bible gives a literal description of God;s creation. If satan can create a counterfeit creation and have this counterfeit creation become the one as accepted as the true creation.
It will create the illusion that The Bible is not a truthful God inspired record, as The Bible states The Bible is.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Your assertion that scripture refutes the existence of a globular Earth and also disproves the Space Program is entirely baseless. It is possible to read those books in Scripture, such as Genesis and Job, in a manner that is fully compatible with the understanding of the world as a globe, which most Christians have held, since the very early church, since even in the time of the Roman Empire it was widely known the Earth was round (this was why Christopher Columbus set out to travel to India by sailing west, for example).
The only religion I am aware of that insists the world is flat is Islam, because Muhammed in one hadith stated that the world was not round, but rather the disappearance of ships over the horizon was an optical illusion. However, most Muslims ignore this, which is why there are large Islamic airlines, since air travel absolutely depends upon an understanding of the correct geometry of the world. Navigation as well.
Also by the way one claim you have on several occasions relied upon, that being a supposed lack of flights between the southern continents, is completely false. Right now there are non-stop services between South Africa, South America and Australia and New Zealand, operated by South African and Air New Zealand, among others, and Qantas flies from Australia to South Africa in support of the mining industry. There is a literal halo around the southern continents of non-stop flights which take the amount of time predicted by a globular Earth.
So at a minimum, the specific flat Earth model that you advocate must be revised to account for these flights.
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Lastly, considering the humans who have died in manned spaceflight, which have included Protestant Christians, Russian Orthodox Christians and one Israeli who was presumably of the Jewish religion, it is grossly disrespectful I think to suggest the idea of the space program is a Satanic delusion.
It is worth remembering that the first thing Buzz Aldrin did on the surface of the moon was to partake of Holy Communion (he was a deacon in the Presbyterian Church).
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I do not fly so i do not rely on any claims related to flying. As for what science states as our creation. Simply does not match up with The Bible's creation descriptions and even when certain events are described in The Bible involving God's creation.
So waIt just a second, are you saying you haven’t travelled by air? And that you refuse to on ideological grounds?
-I have never flown in an airplane, and it has nothing to do with the shape of the earth
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