Absolute proof.. can't deny.. the earth is flat

[trophy33]

Go on change the subject.

Asking you to explain what you are talking about is not changing the subject. You are unwilling to do that, so I am going back to your previous claim, which was factually wrong and you are ignoring it, still.

 

[Apple Sky]

How ironic that you prove the latter part of that verse by adding your own "word" to the verse you quoted. So why should we expect you, who unfaithfully adds to the Scriptures, to faithfully interpret other Scriptures?

So I made a slip, haven't you ?

 

[Apple Sky]

Back to the point - no citations you provided is God saying the Earth is flat. All the citations were of men.

Yes men who God spoke through.

Jesus was God who was man.

 

[trophy33]

Yes men who God spoke through.

Jesus was God who was man.

I have no idea why are you placing these two claims together. You seem to be very unclear today.

 

[Apple Sky]

I have no idea why are you placing these two claims together. You seem to be very unclear today.

Jesus was God who was man, so why did Paul say what he did in Romans 3:4.

The prophets were inspired by God who only stated the truth whether it be via poetry etc. So therefore what they wrote about the earth being unmovable & circular is the truth.

 

[trophy33]

Jesus was God who was man, so why did Paul say what he did in Romans 3:4.

No idea what you are trying to say.

The prophets were inspired by God who only stated the truth whether it be via poetry etc. So therefore what they wrote about the earth being unmovable & circular is the truth.

1. Not all authors of Scriptures were prophets, actually only few of them were. Maybe none, because even the prophetical books were written not by the prophets themselves, but by other people.

2. Prophets were inspired regarding prophecies, not regarding cosmology. And the poetry, if inspired, is not inspired in the meaning it becomes literal. But the deeper meaning (i.e. the theological message) of the poetry would be inspired.

For example, if a poetry "God created the heavens with his right hand" were inspired, it would not mean that it becomes literal, but it would mean that the message (God created the heavens with his power) is inspired.

 

[prodromos]

 

[Apple Sky]

1. Not all authors of Scriptures were prophets, actually only few of them were. Maybe none, because even the prophetical books were written not by the prophets themselves, but by other people.

Who are these other people ?

 

[Apple Sky]

 

[prodromos]

Oh good grief! Did you actually watch Eric "the idiot" Dubay's video? He is yet another example of the verse you misquoted, "Let God be true and every man a liar". Eric fulfils that in spades.

 

[trophy33]

Who are these other people ?

Nobody knows, they did not mention themselves in the Scriptures. Maybe the disciples of the prophets, similarly like the disciples of Jesus wrote down His words.

 

[Apple Sky]

Oh good grief! Did you actually watch Eric "the idiot" Dubay's video? He is yet another example of the verse you misquoted, "Let God be true and every man a liar". Eric fulfils that in spades.

yes I watched it & what he stated is true.

 

[Apple Sky]

Nobody knows, they did not mention themselves in the Scriptures. Maybe the disciples of the prophets, similarly like the disciples of Jesus wrote down His words.

No where in the Bible does it state that other people wrote down what's in scripture.

 

[trophy33]

No where in the Bible does it state that other people wrote down what's in scripture.

Nowhere in the Bible does it state that it was written down by God.

And in for example the gospel of Luke, you can read that it was Luke who wrote the things down, not Jesus, even though the book is about Jesus.

 

[GentleGospeller]

No where in the Bible does it state that ...

Hello Apple Sky. Would you be willing to enter into a formal debate, with rules/regulations, concerning FE vs GE? We agree to rules first, etc.?

 

[lifepsyop]

This is the same Psalm that says the wind has wings and the clouds are God's chariot

Psalm 104 is explicitly describing creation and cosmology

:24
O Lord, how manifold are your works!
In wisdom have you made them all;
the earth is full of your creatures.


You are doing what I see lots of people do in misinterpreting the nature of symbolism. Both symbols you highlighted, wings and chariot, are being used to point to the true reality of something.

Wind flies rapidly through the air like a bird. A chariot is something you ride on and God is described in several other parts of scripture as riding upon the clouds through the sky.

If instead the verse used symbolism like, "the earth is God's chariot," well then you might begin to wonder if there is something about the earth that is in motion.

But, of course, all of Biblical symbolism concerning cosmology is geared fully towards a consistent picture of a non-spherical, non-moving geocentric earth. So, you never find verses like that. Instead, you find verses saying the earth is God's footstool. It is something steady that he rests upon.

You'd think that if globe/heliocentric earth were true than at least some Biblical symbols would lean that way, but they never do. God reveals great mysteries to men, why can't he reveal some of the truth about creation?

But he did reveal the truth because that's all God does.

 

[trophy33]

But, of course, all of Biblical symbolism concerning cosmology is geared fully towards a consistent picture of a non-spherical, non-moving geocentric earth. So, you never find verses like that. Instead, you find verses saying the earth is God's footstool. It is something steady that he rests upon.

Because this was simply the ancient Near Eastern worldview. Its no inspired revelation to Jews, the same view had also all the nations around them - from Egyptians, to Babylonians, to Assyrians.

 

[Apple Sky]

Hello Apple Sky. Would you be willing to enter into a formal debate, with rules/regulations, concerning FE vs GE? We agree to rules first, etc.?

It depends ???

 

[Apple Sky]

Because this was simply the ancient Near Eastern worldview.

Here we go again ........... It couldn't be that the scriptures are adhering to the truth.

 

[trophy33]

Here we go again ........... It couldn't be that the scriptures are adhering to the truth.

In that case all the other ancient nations were adhering to the truth, too. Again, the flat earthism is not exclusive to the Old Testament.

Would you propose Egyptians or Babylonians were also inspired?