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Why would the Westminster teach against free will and endorse free will at the same time? Could it be you don't understand the broadness of the topic?Free will does not exist. Why do you make it one of your presuppositions? It is a philosophical theory with no basis in fact, no scriptural basis at all.
The denial of the existence of freewill is a philosophical theory with no basis in fact, and no scriptural basis except for the false one produced through unenlightened interpretations of men relying upon their own passion afflicted and fallen minds; minds which have not been adequately sanctified by the Holy Spirit and so can do nothing but produce heresy through merely human conjecture.Free will does not exist. Why do you make it one of your presuppositions? It is a philosophical theory with no basis in fact, no scriptural basis at all.
Why do you capitalize "him", when "him" is a reference to Adam, the first man (not God) who subjected creation to vanity by his own choice to sin?
Or there is the Orthodox Way, which is simply termed "Orthodox", although sometimes described by the term "synergeia".
Dear Fiction: I had no idea Adam 1 had such power! He of course is the one in the equation of Romans 5 in whom the polus were made sinners in comparison with the Last Adam who makes the same polus righteous.
The passage in question is of course Romans 8 from which the 3 questions are presented.
ROMANS CHAPTER 8 KJV
The main accomplishment of Adam 1 is leading the entire human race into despair and the tyranny of change & decay.
The capital is not Adam but the One who in His mighty Plan subjected the same. And why?
The whole ktisis (creation) shall be set free/delivered...
Synergeia does not mean that, as you described it "man cooperates with God, to bring about their own salvation". God alone saves, and alone has the power to save. Yet, God saves those who will to be saved and does not force Himself on those who don't will to be One with Him.Synergy, the doctrine that man co-operates with God, to bring about their own salvation.
"James R. Payton discusses the Eastern Orthodox view of the synergism vs monergism debate as follows:
A distinctive element in the Orthodox understanding of how the Holy Spirit works deification within us is the doctrine of "synergy"--"working together." This working together is the collaboration of God's grace and a person's will."
Payton Jr., James R. (14 January 2010). Light from the Christian East: An Introduction to the Orthodox Tradition. InterVarsity Press. p. 151.
I do not accept that. I am 100% Monergistic.
God Bless
Till all are one.
Both the 1644....and the 1689 chose to use the philosophical terms that are common, and respond as such. Bottom line is that was an accommodation to speak and instruct all manner of persons.Why would the Westminster teach against free will and endorse free will at the same time? Could it be you don't understand the broadness of the topic?
It's not by power that Adam subjected creation to vanity, but by sin, through which he fell out of Communion with God (i.e. "died"). I know that you capitalized "Him" because you're under the impression that it's God who subjected creation to vanity. I seem to recall that the Apostle actually meant that it is Adam who subjected it, through his failure to remain in Communion with God. So, the first Adam subjected it through disobedience, but the second Adam (Christ) restores it through obedience.
Hardly. If a person is a sinner--and we all are--and he approaches Judgment without the benefit of saving Faith, it doesn't matter one way or the other whether he had what we might call a "chance." He would be in the category you referred to by mentioning Romans 1: without an excuse.Of course everyone has a chance. Romans 1 says everyone is without excuse. Everyone. If they didn't have a chance then they WOULD have an excuse.
You still have too narrow of a view of predestination. It also includes the numbers of hairs on any person's head at any given time, and all the details of all that ever existed, exists now, or ever will exist.Both the 1644....and the 1689 chose to use the philosophical terms that are common, and respond as such. Bottom line is that was an accommodation to speak and instruct all manner of persons.
I have never seen and never will see a defense of this false idea.
Hardly. If a person is a sinner--and we all are--and he approaches Judgment without the benefit of saving Faith, it doesn't matter one way or the other whether he had what we might call a "chance." He would be in the category you referred to by mentioning Romans 1: without an excuse.
The Father gives everyone a measure of faith. It is what He draws all men. It is up to us to choose.
If they didn't have a chance then they WOULD have an excuse.
Synergeia does not mean that, as you described it "man cooperates with God, to bring about their own salvation". God alone saves, and alone has the power to save. Yet, God saves those who will to be saved and does not force Himself on those who don't will to be One with Him.
It's probably not good to be fully Monergistic, knowing that neither Christ nor any of His disciples are.
What I was responding to was this comment:
Why would Paul say this, if the flesh was perfectly sinless along with your born-again spirit?
“This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.” (Galatians 5:16)
The English word rapture comes from a Latin word to be caught up.
The rapture is the last day.
No....I mean free will is a false philosophical construct created by fallen, rebellious man who desire to get out from under the rule and reign of God.
I am 100% Monergistic
Because, we still tangle with the flesh, yet to be resurrected from the dead.Why? Because God doesn't want anyone to perish. In 1 Thessalonians 5 Paul warns not to quench the Spirit. Only those who are righteous and holy will be saved, not those who love the darkness. Revelation 22:11.
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