Abortion

[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

If abortion is banned, the only thing I can see is more loss of life because those seeking them will end up having backroom abortions with dodgy medical services to support them afterward (or even during). I can't reconcile a course of events that will only lead to more deaths. Bans aren't going to stand in the way of people seeking them out - it was like this prior to Roe v. Wade and it'll just pick up where it left off almost 35 years ago, if not escalate in scope.

Exactly. That's why I'm very much Pro-choice. Making abortion illegal will not do anyone any good. Women wouldn't stop having abortions, they'd just have them illegally, which would put them in danger. That's why as a medical professional, I cannot support the anti-choice (pro-life is not the best term) movement at all.
What happened when abortion was illegal was horrible. I know that retro is in now, but the Comstock laws are not something that we should go back to!

Keeping abortion legal is the best option.

 

[Weasel7711]

Exactly. That's why I'm very much Pro-choice. Making abortion illegal will not do anyone any good. Women wouldn't stop having abortions, they'd just have them illegally, which would put them in danger. That's why as a medical professional, I cannot support the anti-choice (pro-life is not the best term) movement at all.
What happened when abortion was illegal was horrible. I know that retro is in now, but the Comstock laws are not something that we should go back to!

Keeping abortion legal is the best option.

Why not just make rape legal? That way those people who want to choose to rape wont have to get sprayed with mace and shot or stabbed by their victims??
See the logic there? Neither do I.

 

[Luther073082]

Exactly. That's why I'm very much Pro-choice. Making abortion illegal will not do anyone any good. Women wouldn't stop having abortions, they'd just have them illegally, which would put them in danger. That's why as a medical professional, I cannot support the anti-choice (pro-life is not the best term) movement at all.
What happened when abortion was illegal was horrible. I know that retro is in now, but the Comstock laws are not something that we should go back to!

Keeping abortion legal is the best option.

If she gets an illegal abortion and dies, then its her fault.

I mean saying that is like saying we should make it legal to jump off a building. I mean because its illegal I have to do it much more swiftly and can't take the precautions I could if it wasn't illegal.

The solution for these women is to stop doing it. If they die, then its their own stupid faults. I make the exception for rape, intreatable and fatal birth defects, and mother's life. I'm not going to make exceptions for irresponsible women or the morons that knock them up.

 

[Tuffguy]

Exactly. That's why I'm very much Pro-choice. Making abortion illegal will not do anyone any good. Women wouldn't stop having abortions, they'd just have them illegally, which would put them in danger. That's why as a medical professional, I cannot support the anti-choice (pro-life is not the best term) movement at all.
What happened when abortion was illegal was horrible. I know that retro is in now, but the Comstock laws are not something that we should go back to!

Keeping abortion legal is the best option.

Legal to protect women? You do realize that women die now during abortions. Of the ones that are ok, how many very much regret even doing it.

Perhaps if they could not walk down the street, throw 500 bucks on the table and have an abortion, they would remember to use birth control next time.

 

[die2live]

Exactly. That's why I'm very much Pro-choice. Making abortion illegal will not do anyone any good. Women wouldn't stop having abortions, they'd just have them illegally, which would put them in danger. That's why as a medical professional, I cannot support the anti-choice (pro-life is not the best term) movement at all.
What happened when abortion was illegal was horrible. I know that retro is in now, but the Comstock laws are not something that we should go back to!

Keeping abortion legal is the best option.

See post #60 please.

 

[die2live]

Why not just make rape legal? That way those people who want to choose to rape wont have to get sprayed with mace and shot or stabbed by their victims??
See the logic there? Neither do I.

Also, they would not feel the need to kill their victims to cover up their crime. So there would be less death. Gee, I wonder why we didn't make rape legal a long time ago.

Logic only gets you so far.

 

[kingoffools13]

Exactly. That's why I'm very much Pro-choice. Making abortion illegal will not do anyone any good. Women wouldn't stop having abortions, they'd just have them illegally, which would put them in danger. That's why as a medical professional, I cannot support the anti-choice (pro-life is not the best term) movement at all.
What happened when abortion was illegal was horrible. I know that retro is in now, but the Comstock laws are not something that we should go back to!

Keeping abortion legal is the best option.

Yeah also we should legalize drugs, that way we can make sure they are safely distributed to druggies instead of being mixed with all sorts of dangerous chemicals that people shouldn't ingest ...

the problem is that even if it was true that women would be better off with legal vs non-legal abortions that its wrong either way. For the record though, abortion has little to no regulation whatsoever, and many woman die and or are permanently damaged/injured during the procedure (it is after all a killing procedure).

Its terrible that it has been allowed in this country, and a shame that it was allowed in an illegal fashion. That is to say, the judicial branch of government cannot write law, only enforce it, so legally there never should have been a change to the law as they had not the power to do so.

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[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[ciaradawn]

I'm know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I can say it because there are so many other crazy illogical statements going around that I think it will fit right in. Here's my statement, you can infer what you want; the world is overpopulated.

 

[Calliso]

they are all the same, if you can look after your child then get a job or you must have family or somthing that can help. there is no excuse for an abortion. NONE. 1 dont have sex 2 if you do its most likly your falt(exception of rape) and keep the child people need to grow up and accept the consequences of there actions!

Many jobs will not support a family. Many people donlt have a family that can or will help. Many people who find themselves pregnant and unwed will be shunned and outcast by their family and community. There are soo many situations that is why this is not a black and white kinda thing.

 

[Calliso]

i haven't read the other posts, just this one. If your friend would get an abortion depending on her circumstances, she's not really against it. She is confused. I don't think i'd call her hypocritical since it's so blatant. But i definitely would not says she's pro-life.

As an aside, i think abortion is one of the top 5 sickest things on earth and the murders of the millions of babies in our world each year are going to be called to account on Judgement Day. I feel sad for every mother who gets pushed to that point and for every doctor that performs it. I also feel sad for the people that support pro-choice and encourage their friends, co-workers, family or spouse to get one. It's horrible. May God have mercy on us all.

You know I donlt know many prochoice people who actually encourage people to get abortions. It;s one thing to think people have the right to have one quite another to encourage it. I certainly donlt tell people they should have abortions. But really all of us will have some answering to do at judgement day some more then they think they will.

 

[Calliso]

Exactly. That's why I'm very much Pro-choice. Making abortion illegal will not do anyone any good. Women wouldn't stop having abortions, they'd just have them illegally, which would put them in danger. That's why as a medical professional, I cannot support the anti-choice (pro-life is not the best term) movement at all.
What happened when abortion was illegal was horrible. I know that retro is in now, but the Comstock laws are not something that we should go back to!

Keeping abortion legal is the best option.

Exactly education is the way to go if we want to reduce abortions. I mean aren;t there countries that have legal abortion but it is rare because their sex education and what not is better then say in the United States?

 

[Weasel7711]

Id like someone to show me proof that the number of abortions has gone down since it has been legalized... please.

 

[Weasel7711]

I'm know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I can say it because there are so many other crazy illogical statements going around that I think it will fit right in. Here's my statement, you can infer what you want; the world is overpopulated.

I would disagree and say theres too much population concentrated in certain areas, the world is big enough for the people it has in it, if they would just spread out a little.

 

[Luther073082]

I'm know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I can say it because there are so many other crazy illogical statements going around that I think it will fit right in. Here's my statement, you can infer what you want; the world is overpopulated.

So lets abort some adults.

 

[Weasel7711]

Exactly education is the way to go if we want to reduce abortions. I mean aren;t there countries that have legal abortion but it is rare because their sex education and what not is better then say in the United States?

I agree that education is the key. Also SELF CONTROL

Teach our children to wait until they are married to express love through sex, it would greatly reduce the number of horrible breakups, horrible marriages, STDs, abortions, unwanted pregnancies, and would overall promote real love, love that thinks of the other rather than what I can get right now.
Safe sex education is like giving a murderer a course on "humane muder". "Well he's just going to do it anyway so lets educate him on how do to it properly, with as little pain to the victim as possible."

There is a lot of evidence that certain African countries with HUGE aids epidemics have drastically reduced the aids numbers through abstinence only sex education.

Self control is RARELY taught in churches nowadays. Its pretty much everyone does what is right in their own eyes. If it feels good, do it, worry about the consequences when you're dead.

 

[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[ciaradawn]

Please don't try to take the middle ground, there is no middle ground. Either you support abortion or you don't. Either you support baby murdering or you don't. Even if you say you would only support it in case X or if it came this extreme situation, you STILL SUPPORT IT.

I disagree. I completely agree with the person you quoted. We don't all have to know exactly how we feel about every situation ever. Everyone doesn't have to fall on one extreme or the other. Why do you feel the need to require everyone to be 100% sure in their views?

So lets abort some adults.

Not such a bad idea; or maybe we should stop giving death-row inmates better care than our poor.

 

[Calliso]

Please don't try to take the middle ground, there is no middle ground. Either you support abortion or you don't. Either you support baby murdering or you don't. Even if you say you would only support it in case X or if it came this extreme situation, you STILL SUPPORT IT.

Just like there is no middle ground in the end times (there are only sheep or goats....no llamas or walruses or waffles ), there is no middle ground in the topic of killing babies. Yes some people support different types of abortion, some people support different lengths in the mothers uterus as viable for abortion, and some people support different circumstances for abortion (rape, incest, etc), they all have one thing in common: they support the murder of live babies that God lovingly created in the wombs of these mothers. If you are going to support something, SUPPORT IT. Don't shy away from the gruesome aspects of it or use different language to make it softer.

lastly, i agree with you about all of us having to answer on Judgement Day. I'm just glad that so far in my life i will not have to answer for murdering any innocent babies. And that's why i speak against abortion: i don't want other people to have to answer for that either. God have mercy on us all.

I actually donlt always agree with a persons reasons for aborting. But I support their right to chose. There is a HUGE difference between saying you have a right to chose and saying you know you should get that abortion! The way I see it I would love abortions to be something that is legal and RARE. But apparently making it illegal doesn;t lower the rate of abortions so obviously we need to look at other solutions. Also I donlt believe God creates all the babies otherwise donlt you think he would make sure they were wanted? That women who were in situations where a baby was wanted? Not to mention what about all the babies that are naturally aborted?

And I donlt see how I am shying away from the grueseome aspects of it. Or using soft language or whatever. and if I am how is that any different then prolifers calling embyros and fetus's baby>? that is usually done to invoke a emotional response. .