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Skinster007 said:
Great so let's start giving kids condoms when they're 5. If I'm walking towards a cliff, your solution is to wrap be in bubble wrap so I have a soft landing. How about you just tell me there's a cliff in front of me so I don't walk off in the first place. Do u have a problem with a 12-16 year old having sex?

I don't have a problem with it....do you?

It is proven that the age they are going to have sex is around the age of 17 yo. And good sex education doesn't mean that they go out there and ....their brains out. It even makes the youth more wise about their decission. And if they have sex they have to have safe sex! It is stupid to say that young teens aren't sexual active.

By the way, a 5 yo would fill the thing with water and throw it at his friend.......;)
 
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Skinster007 said:
Great so let's start giving kids condoms when they're 5. If I'm walking towards a cliff, your solution is to wrap be in bubble wrap so I have a soft landing. How about you just tell me there's a cliff in front of me so I don't walk off in the first place. Do u have a problem with a 12-16 year old having sex?

You missed the real picture. If you are walking toward a cliff, I should point out that there is a cliff and you might fall if you are not careful. But if you INSIST on walking towards the cliff I might want to PUT UP A RAILING.
 
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Bubble wrap... condoms... great analogy by the way. I love it.

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When we adopted the wait was only seven years. Now it is more like 14 or 15 years to wait to adopt. There is simply not enough children to adopt... the OP is totally off the beam. There are even more infertile couples waiting to adopt now than it was 20 years ago. Blame abortion on this fact the wait is so long.
 
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Paisley Rose said:
When we adopted the wait was only seven years. Now it is more like 14 or 15 years to wait to adopt. There is simply not enough children to adopt... the OP is totally off the beam. There are even more infertile couples waiting to adopt now than it was 20 years ago. Blame abortion on this fact.

Foster care is filled with children waiting to be adopted. I'm not quite sure where you are getting your information. There may be a wait to adopt babies, but that is about it.
 
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Paisley Rose said:
When we adopted the wait was only seven years. Now it is more like 14 or 15 years to wait to adopt. There is simply not enough children to adopt... the OP is totally off the beam. There are even more infertile couples waiting to adopt now than it was 20 years ago. Blame abortion on this fact.

Hold up, here sister. You are telling me there are not enough children for couples who want to adopt? Or there aren't enough INFANTS?
 
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By the way, a 5 yo would fill the thing with water and throw it at his friend.......;)

Some of my friends used to steal condoms from supermarkets.... they are perfect to play voleyball when inflated.

We where 13 at the time.

To answer neither abstinence nor free condoms are really good solutions by themselves. You need sex ed from the family and the school. Teach them responsibility not avoidance.
 
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Bubble wrap... condoms... great analogy by the way. I love it.

Lol. Well right now nothing is working. Our abstinence programs and handing out condoms and teaching safe sex are both failing miserably. But how can they work when sex is plastered all over the place? There's young people having sex on tv all day long, sex in video games, every singer is half naked now, every commercial is geared toward sex. Hip Hop is all about sex and kids listen to it all the time, even while they're sleeping. We rarely see happy married people on tv anymore. So we can argue about abstinence vs. safe sex programs but there is a bigger picture out there. We have to come to common ground.

*This has been a public service announcement*
 
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Frankly, if I thought we could trust the imbeciles that pass for human beings to be decent parents I would be all for removing sex ed from schools.

In fact, if I could trust kids to be left to their own devices I would also remove sports, phys ed, art, music and literature. Can you imagine there was a time when music was DESIRED by some kids? Art was self taught? Sports were organised and played WITHOUT adult inferference? And kids got out and played because there was no TV? Can you even imagine that somehow human beings made some German Composer Bozo or Dandy English Playwrite classic artists WITHOUT having some teacher who should be demonstrating critical thinking skills instead shoving the "classics" down kid's throats? It's like...if you let them...humans will discover the truly transcendant all by themselves...
 
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Skinster007 said:
Lol. Well right now nothing is working. Our abstinence programs and handing out condoms and teaching safe sex are both failing miserably. But how can they work when sex is plastered all over the place? There's young people having sex on tv all day long, sex in video games, every singer is half naked now, every commercial is geared toward sex. Hip Hop is all about sex and kids listen to it all the time, even while they're sleeping. We rarely see happy married people on tv anymore. So we can argue about abstinence vs. safe sex programs but there is a bigger picture out there. We have to come to common ground.

*This has been a public service announcement*

It's called critical thinking, and it may mean giving up more than just teenaged sexuality. Gods and politics come to mind. You can't not have your cake and not eat it too.
 
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When we adopted the wait was only seven years. Now it is more like 14 or 15 years to wait to adopt. There is simply not enough children to adopt... the OP is totally off the beam. There are even more infertile couples waiting to adopt now than it was 20 years ago. Blame abortion on this fact the wait is so long.

I think you mean that there aren't enough HEALTHY WHITE BABIES to adopt. Other than those ones, there are plenty to choose from!
 
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Skinster007 said:
Lol. Well right now nothing is working. Our abstinence programs and handing out condoms and teaching safe sex are both failing miserably.


Totally wrong.

The rate of teen pregnancy is at it's lowest point in at least a decade, and the rate of abortion has been steadily falling since it peaked in the early 90s. It may still be too high, but the trend is going in the right direction. (I'll furnish links if necessary.)

Why is the situation so much different in Europe? I recently attended a seminar on overseas health practices. Teenagers in the Netherlands almost certainly have sex as often as American teens. Yet a Dutch girl is is only 1/3 as likely to have an abortion. Do people abstain from sex in Germany? Why is their incidence of HIV/AIDs 1/5th of ours? If you've been to Europe, you know that sex is everywhere. But Europeans BEHAVE MORE RESPONSIBLY. They use birth control (which can be obtained OTC in many countries) and seem to be better about safe sex practices. Sex education is widespread. Why can't we do the same?
 
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OR break each other's records on the PSP.

I will agree PSPs are like TVs or Drugs or Religion. If children are allowed to partake at all it should be very closely monitored and limited. If you combine it with critical thinking skills they will figure it out. Mine has.
 
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Totally wrong.

The rate of teen pregnancy is at it's lowest point in at least a decade, and the rate of abortion has been steadily falling since it peaked in the early 90s. It may still be too high, but the trend is going in the right direction. (I'll furnish links if necessary.)

Why is the situation so much different in Europe? I recently attended a seminar on overseas health practices. Teenagers in the Netherlands almost certainly have sex as often as American teens. Yet a Dutch girl is is only 1/3 as likely to have an abortion. Do people abstain from sex in Germany? Why is their incidence of HIV/AIDs 1/5th of ours? If you've been to Europe, you know that sex is everywhere. But Europeans BEHAVE MORE RESPONSIBLY. They use birth control (which can be obtained OTC in many countries) and seem to be better about safe sex practices. Sex education is widespread. Why can't we do the same?


Well it's nice to hear that numbers are going down. Why is europe doing better? I don't know. Maybe they hand out more condoms then us. Lol.
 
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