Abortion Solution

[cobaltburrito]

You just proved his point.

 

[reverend B]

you have become a prisoner of your faith, rather than be liberated by it. i have seen it often and counseled many. i pray someone helps you to learn the spirit, and not just the words. good luck to you. i study scripture also. i also have discussions with people. i know the difference. may God give you the wisdom and discernment to do the same. i don't think anyone else can help you. you have chosen to not be open to the human heart. how lonely it must be in there. we will miss you. goodnight.

 

[""]

we will miss you. goodnight.

Exactly.



For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Romans 2:14-16

 

[reverend B]

wherever two or more gather in my name, there shall i be in the midst of them.
this is not a solo sport, this faith, adiya. goodnight, and God bless you, in Jesus name.

 

[""]

wherever two or more gather in my name, there shall i be in the midst of them.
this is not a solo sport, this faith, adiya. goodnight, and God bless you, in Jesus name.

Christianity is not a sport at all. It is a faith, and it is a one on one relationship with Jesus Christ.

You're quoting Matthew 18 out of context, and also inaccurately, however, I do admire your knowledge of the chapter and refer you back to it.

Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.


In accordance with the words of Christ, I forgive you. Goodnight and may the God of Heaven continue to show you His mercy.

 

[praying]

No it isn't. It's only obvious to those who support abortion, or who do not believe in God and wish to oppose somebody who does.

I am jumping in late, but I just want to say I am pro-life and believe in God and I believe you are/were mistaken. The poster pointed out what the statistics quite clearly show. White babies are gobbled up and minority and disabled babies/children aren't. You can't fight the facts and those are the facts.

 

[praying]

There's no free pass necessary if the women doesn't allow herself to be impregnated by a "horrid" man, right?

Both are not left with the baby. Is the man financially responsible? Yes, but good luck with the "horrid" ones. Is the man ethically responsible for the rearing of his children? Yes, but good luck with the "horrid" ones on the that too.

Yes, some men are abdicating their half of the job. That's nothing new. What you fail to acknowledge is that the woman carries the child, she gives birth to the child, and she is the one who is much more likely to rear the child alone if she opens her knees for a "horrid" man.

Therefore, a woman should be very, very, very careful who she lets between her legs, no matter how much he says he loves her, no matter how horny she is, no matter how hot he is, no matter how hot she thinks the sex is going to be.

If a woman lets a man impregnate her, she had bettered be very sure that she and he are committed to raising that baby into adulthood. Unwanted pregnancy is not justification for tearing a baby out of it's mother's womb. You want the adult pleasure, you have to take the adult responsibility.

All true also supported by statisitics.

 

[Mereni]

I am jumping in late, but I just want to say I am pro-life and believe in God and I believe you are/were mistaken. The poster pointed out what the statistics quite clearly show. White babies are gobbled up and minority and disabled babies/children aren't. You can't fight the facts and those are the facts.

I'm jumping in late here too, but I have to say that you are way off mhatten. That person didn't give any stats. Just to show you I'm being fair, I'll tell you I'm not anti-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I can spot when somebody is making posts just to start something. That one post that started it was a dare. She said something about only white people adopting babies, but not in a serious tone, and she did it to make a point. She made it sound like white rich people are anti abortion and poor people of other races aren't. That's just plain wrong. If you can't see that then, whatever. That was a mocking post dude. I don't blame an anti-abortion person who happens to not be white for saying that people are wrong to think that only whites are pro-choice.

 

[Mereni]

i think i remained civil while you accused me of being satan's spawn. i would be happy to hear other peoples takes on this, as this has become surreal to me. the poster has said you misunderstood their post. this is just silly adiya. why is there absolutely noone that sees it like you do, including the people who would presumably be experts on the intent of what they wrote? it must be very lonely to be the only one that has been imbued with the truth. do not use scripture to cover your own failings. it is a great disservice to the Word.
pride goeth before the fall.

And you. Holy crap. I have never seen a minister act like you. You're encouraging other people to rip at that lady. What kind of minister does that? Sure no minister I have ever met.

Now I don't claim to be a christian, but if anybody would keep me from becoming one, it would be you.

Also, what's with all of the small letters and no caps? I've never seen an educated person claiming to be a college grad minister use only lower case. Usually just kidding hackers and people like that type in all lower case.

I really have to wonder about you. I don't doubt that you are a christian cuz you say you are and who am I to judge. I'm not sure that I would ever choose to be one however, if you were the only example I was ever given. Where's your humility?

 

[Mereni]

Here's a viable solution to abortion: "pro-lifers" should be forced to adopt all unwanted children in their country of residence. Of course, the adoptions will be shared out between all the pro-lifers evenly so as not to be unfair.

What do you think?

What I think is that nobody should be kept from making the choice to save themselves and their own life. I understand why anti abortion people oppose it, because yeah I think there is a life in there. I wouldn't have one. An abortion, that is. I don't think I could. I wouldn't stop somebody else from having one. I don't think that is fair. Besides, you know some people are having abortions because they use too much drugs, drink to much and all that. They know that they are going to have an unhealthy baby, or not be a good parent to it. They should never have kids. Abortion should be mandatory for people like that, if we can't sterilize them. I know that's bad. I'm sorry for saying it. I just can't stand ho's and I hate seeing kids neglected.

 

[Silent Bob]

And you. Holy crap. I have never seen a minister act like you. You're encouraging other people to rip at that lady. What kind of minister does that? Sure no minister I have ever met.

The poster Adiya was responding to was being sarcastic to make a point which Adiya misread and continues to misread. He was pointing out that Adiya misread the post. He was kind and gave her all the slack in the world while she went on a self-righteous tangent quoting scriptures and refusing to understand or respond. If anyone is wrong here it is Adiya.

Now I don't claim to be a christian, but if anybody would keep me from becoming one, it would be you.

Rev B is making me proud to be a Christian while Adiya's attitude makes me shamed. Thats the way I see it.

Also, what's with all of the small letters and no caps? I've never seen an educated person claiming to be a college grad minister use only lower case. Usually just kidding hackers and people like that type in all lower case.

We all have our habits when we write in an informal style. To attack him like this makes you sound bad. Please don't.

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Where's your humility?

Look at what I quoted above. Where is yours?

 

[""]

I'm jumping in late here too, but I have to say that you are way off mhatten. That person didn't give any stats. Just to show you I'm being fair, I'll tell you I'm not anti-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I can spot when somebody is making posts just to start something. That one post that started it was a dare. She said something about only white people adopting babies, but not in a serious tone, and she did it to make a point. She made it sound like white rich people are anti abortion and poor people of other races aren't. That's just plain wrong. If you can't see that then, whatever. That was a mocking post dude. I don't blame an anti-abortion person who happens to not be white for saying that people are wrong to think that only whites are pro-choice.

Thank you.

 

[""]

The poster Adiya was responding to was being sarcastic to make a point which Adiya misread and continues to misread.

I didn't misread the quote. You misread my answer.

The quote:

But only if they are healthy white infants, right? Otherwise, that's just not faaairrrrr!

Here, she is making a joke out of forcing people to adopt children, and suggesting that they should only be healthy and white otherwise it's not fair. You all think that I am on her about the idea that only whites adopt, or only white babies are wanted for adoption and that's not it.

Behind her post, is the suggestion that only whites are pro-life, and that whites don't care about all of the women who are having abortions because the majority of them are not white. For further proof of this, see her post from page five.

This makes me sad. There are plenty of children who need homes; the foster care system is full of them. But, most of them are over 2, many of them aren't white, and a good number of them have a disability of some kind.

This is partly why I see so much dishonesty in the anti-legal abortion movement. Honestly, I think a big part of the drive behind it is the desire to create a large pool of adoptable white babies. If we can get more pregnant white teens to give up their babies, then there will be a big pool of healthy white babies for infertile couples, some of whom seem to believe that they are "owed" a baby (although obviously not all have that attitude). That's just sad and wrong

My stance is that this is an irresponsible stereotype, which I have seen too many pro-choicers adopt. I'm not white. It's true that many people believe I am, but my point is, that there are many people of many cultures, many religions, and many walks of life who are pro-life. There are also many people of many cultures, and many walks of life who are pro-choice. It is not only wealthy white people trying to keep the dark poor folks down, that oppose abortion and it is not only the undereducated po' darkies who keep getting themselves knocked up.

You all can go on for as long as you want, claiming that her post was meant to be light hearted and fun, but there is some truth to what I have just said. The second quote of hers, from another post she made, in this topic, further backs up my stance. If you read them both again, you'll see what I mean.

&#8220;The highest compact we can make with our fellow is: Let there be truth between us two forevermore&#8221; - Ralph Waldo Emerson

 

[Silent Bob]

Here, she is making a joke out of forcing people to adopt children, and suggesting that they should only be healthy and white otherwise it's not fair. You all think that I am on her about the idea that only whites adopt, or only white babies are wanted for adoption and that's not it.

She is making a joke about how the world works. Lets face it. There are more whites adopting (in America) and they predominantly adopt white babies. Also the people who would adopt an unhealthy baby are trully few and I must admit I am not one of them although I applaud them. The point is that adoption in the current society we live in is not a viable solution to unwanted pregnancy. Hence the anti-choice mantra of adoption is moot.

My stance is that this is an irresponsible stereotype, which I have seen too many pro-choicers adopt.

This was an opinion. And if you trully want to prove it wrong you can, without over-reacting.

It may be wrong or it may be right. I think that it is wrong. But I don't see how you could be so deeply offended by this opinion.

 

[""]

This was an opinion. And if you trully want to prove it wrong you can, without over-reacting.

Over-reacting? Another unwanted stereotype.

It may be wrong or it may be right. I think that it is wrong. But I don't see how you could be so deeply offended by this opinion.

Oh... ok, I can understand how a white guy like yourself wouldn't be able to see how a non-white, pro-life, woman, like myself would be offended at the suggestion that pro-lifers just want to make more white babies so they can be adopted by white families. Sure.... it makes perfect sense to me now.

Do you ever laugh at some of the things you say? I admit, sometimes I say things that I later look at and laugh about, but seriously.... why would you ask a pro-life supporting woman of mixed race (part black) why she would be offended at the idea that pro-lifers just want to make more white babies? Seriously! I'll wait. I have all the time in the world. You just go ahead and answer. I'm patient.

 

[Sundragon2012]

I have been suggesting, for years, that pro-lifers who are not snatching up the currently available children, even if they aren't caucasian newborns, and of the financial means to do so are COMPLETE HYPOCRITES.

Of course it is a lot less expensive to picket an abortion clinic than to live in an all-white neighborhood while raising a disabled, african-american toddler. Funny how the folks who want to adopt, noting the low available supply of caucasian infants, will actually go to places like Czechoslovakia to get an acceptable white baby when I have no doubt that right in their own city there are plenty of african-american and latino children living (or other minority though asian children seem somewhat acceptable) in foster care and awaiting homes. I'm not saying that european babies don't deserve homes, but ignoring the suffering in your own neighborhood is reprehensible.

Curious how Christian love so rarely transcends thoughts of race when it comes to adoption.


)o( Blessed Be,

Chris

 

[Silent Bob]

Oh... ok, I can understand how a white guy like yourself wouldn't be able to see how a non-white, pro-life, woman, like myself would be offended at the suggestion that pro-lifers just want to make more white babies so they can be adopted by white families. Sure.... it makes perfect sense to me now.

So this is about race? She said she thinks.... it was wrong, keep your head and explain it.

Frankly I couldn't care less about race I don't give a dimme if you are rainbow coloured. You over-reacted.

 

[reverend B]

And you. Holy crap. I have never seen a minister act like you. You're encouraging other people to rip at that lady. What kind of minister does that? Sure no minister I have ever met.

Now I don't claim to be a christian, but if anybody would keep me from becoming one, it would be you.

Also, what's with all of the small letters and no caps? I've never seen an educated person claiming to be a college grad minister use only lower case. Usually just kidding hackers and people like that type in all lower case.

I really have to wonder about you. I don't doubt that you are a christian cuz you say you are and who am I to judge. I'm not sure that I would ever choose to be one however, if you were the only example I was ever given. Where's your humility?

my humility was being expressed by asking others to evaluate the situation because i had lost my objectivity and needed a third opinion. it seemed so outside the realm of reason to me that i started to think i might have missed something. it was not an invitation to pile on. you are projecting something personal on me, for whatever reason.
i type the way i do as it allows me to get ideas down as quickly as possible. that helps me not lose some of my train of thought. i am sorry if it annoys you. it is a common form of informal communication on the net, as i am sure you know. one thing i like about it is that when i do capitalize, it points up the value of that which is capitalized, compared to "i" or "me". "Christ" and "Jesus" and "God" are always capitalized for instance. it was also good enough for e.e. cummings, and i rather admired his poetry.
no other human is ever a good reason to become a Christian. we are certainly not the example. that would be Christ. don't look at me, look at Him.

 

[suzybeezy]

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