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Indeed. Applying the morals of the parents to the discussion is critical. If not teens will find their answers elsewhere.Or an open morning. Or an open evening. Or an open 5 minutes. Whatever, I don’t judge.
Indeed. Applying the morals of the parents to the discussion is critical. If not teens will find their answers elsewhere.
I guess with young parenting these days, I would not be surprised if there are Apps available for download.
While I agree with much of what you say, I would submit that, in fact, any part of the reproductive process can be detrimental to a woman's health. My wife's first pregnancy was an absolute nightmare. I literally had to carry her in my arms to the medical clinic where we were stationed in Germany so that she could be fed intravenously on a frequent basis. She had morning, noon, and night sickness nearly full-term and at no time did it enter our minds nor our conversations that abortion might be a remedy. It was never suggested as an option by the obstetric caregivers with whom we were so well-acquainted. Walking across a street can be detrimental to a woman's health. Female pedestrianism is not considered a healthcare issue to my knowledge. "Thou shalt not kill" was second nature to us. It still is. God has had so much mercy upon us. The foolishness which so easily be sets so many, He has seen fit to spare us. We are not worthy of His favor. Nevertheless He has been pleased to spare us so much misery. I feel no moral superiority as a result of being raised properly. Only mercy. Only mercy. May those who feel confident in excusing their wrong course of action experience His mercy as my family have.One case for abortion is that it is healthcare. But I ask you what part of sexual reproduction: fertilization, implantation, embryonic development and labour; is detrimental to the woman's health? In fact this is normal. If there was anything wrong with fertilization, or implantation, then you should seek healthcare. But to claim that a normal process of is detrimental to woman's health is obviously wrong. The second point some make is that pregnancy is a matter of inconvenience, because they didn't intend to get pregnant but only have sex. Regardless, it is a fact that one cannot get pregnant without having sex, and that sex is a means of procreation. It produces life, and this is how humans propagate. As a result, just because someone doesn't intend to get pregnant doesn't mean that the human life they have created is invalid. Whether you intended to or not, if you were to carry your child to term you would have a human being. Abortion is murder, because no matter where along the line of human development you are it is still murder if you end someones life. Do women have the right to do what they want with their bodies? An embryo is not apart of a woman's body. It relies on a woman's body, but it is a separate entity, that will give rise to a separate human being. So for a woman to abort their child, isn't doing what they want with their bodies but instead impeding on the rights of another.
I thought you said beyond the biology.Not so much “morals” but “general knowledge of human biology.” As I said, this thread has proven that the general public’s knowledge of how sex and biology works isn’t exactly amazing. Moral education vs biology are two entirely different things.
Do women have the right to do what they want with their bodies? An embryo is not a part of a woman's body. It relies on a woman's body, but it is a separate entity, that will give rise to a separate human being. So for a woman to abort their child, isn't doing what they want with their bodies but instead impeding on the rights of another.
we should go after these butchers and charge them with first degree murder. and the woman too.And the argument that is given so often is that if it is illegal women will be forced to go to "butcher's" like the old days.
So destroying our progeny in the hopes of keeping our economic status is poor logic, selfish and against God's economy.
Ending premarital sex, adultery and prostitution would reduce abortions. Condoms are not safe sex as they sometimes broke. Some women can not afford birth control, or can not use it as their church forbids it.Long study results but if you scroll down to the bottom it gives a summary of reasons women get abortions:
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Link to full presentation: Reasons given for having abortions in the United States
Let's examine what you're saying from both a logical and Biblical perspective:The placenta is part of the mom's body. It is not part of the unborn baby's body, even though the embryo/fetus uses it. Therefore, the mom alone has the right to decide what to do with the placenta and attached umbilical cord, not the baby, because it is totally hers.
I'm confused, do you think this would have happened to America were it not for the abortions that have occurred?So you would prefer we live poor, without healthcare, short lives, insufficient food, living eight people a room and wondering where we are going to scrounge next days living while the women destroy their health with repeatedly giving births like in Pakistani borderlands ?
Contraceptives are indeed a responsible choice to include in your decision to fornicate. At least it lowers the chance of a woman getting pregnant. Still the best decision is to wait until you are married.
Thou shalt not commit murder --is not a religious teaching, it is a Commandment from God.Even in marriage there comes a time more children are not wanted since they can not be financially or emotionally supported.
Even the birth rates of Catholics are about the same as the median number so clearly practical realities outweight some religious teachings.
They have the option of giving the baby for adoption. A baby's life does not have to be taken.We cannot judge, but have faith that those in Christ, will make the correct decision in there given circumstances.
If a couple were considering abortion due to financial pressure, would you then, knowing how much a child is worth, give to them weekly in order to support. For is not the life of a child worth more then money?
Im sure many have turned to the church in this situation, and i am sure many have been refused. Are we then in fact also in part, the ones resposible for the termination of the child? For they needed help, but none was given. We all decided that our money was worth more then the life of a child, regardless of how it was conceived.
We cannot judge, for if we do we would all be hypocrites.
Well I am a 60 yo grandma. I can't keep up with the latest gigs and fads. It is so sad.Today it is more the "hook up" culture. The days of going steady and dating are behind us by and large. Showing up to a party to play video games and do a 'hook up' and be done is what is going on now.
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