Abortion - "As early as possible, as late as necessary"

[Westvleteren]

Oh, boo hoo. I feel no empathy for the woman. I feel for the child who was torn to pieces. She made her bed, she can sleep in it.

You have a strange notion of empathy, then. You never know when someone's bed has been made for them despite their best efforts.

The persistence of the anti-choice lobby in painting every pregnant woman as an immoral **** who deserves the "punishment" of motherhood is eventually going to come back and bite them in the behind.

By the way, it's not always a "woman." Girls of nine, ten and eleven years old can get pregnant, and in my neck of the woods, it's not unheard of. (Can you say "incest"?) Now which child has been torn to pieces?

 

[The Seeker]

No, I consider life in any stage to be as valuable as the next.

So the idea of letting a human being die for a non-sentient clump of tissue doesn't bother you at all then? Nice.

What a wonderful excuse to excuse your ignorance on this issue.

Frankly, I don't think that an argument that consists of "it looks like a likkle babeeee, it even tried to grab his finger" is really worth considering.

Because they are money hungry murdering scum?

Does this include the UK, where abortions are carried out by non-profit government agencies who would save money by illegalising abortions?

 

[The Seeker]

I feel no empathy for the woman.

Now there's a surprise.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

Choice? poppycock. Does the baby get a choice?

It's the woman's choice. Hence the name.

 

[Kira Faye]

not all abortions are because of the womens 'sins', what about the women who are raped? why punish them for the horrible crime? Incest of children already mentioned....what about when its a medical risk? Some conidtion mean the women has to abort of she and the child will die......I'm against people using abortion as contraception, but there are some big cases for abortion being allowed...plus as most scientists will say in early weeks the 'baby' is a bunch cells.....I realise that after a certain time they start becoming a better more developed embroy but the OP of this thread is early abortions

 

[Lyric's Dad]

You have a strange notion of empathy, then. You never know when someone's bed has been made for them despite their best efforts.

The persistence of the anti-choice lobby in painting every pregnant woman as an immoral **** who deserves the "punishment" of motherhood is eventually going to come back and bite them in the behind.

By the way, it's not always a "woman." Girls of nine, ten and eleven years old can get pregnant, and in my neck of the woods, it's not unheard of. (Can you say "incest"?) Now which child has been torn to pieces?

The destruction of one child does not justify another.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

So the idea of letting a human being die for a non-sentient clump of tissue doesn't bother you at all then? Nice.


Frankly, I don't think that an argument that consists of "it looks like a likkle babeeee, it even tried to grab his finger" is really worth considering.


Does this include the UK, where abortions are carried out by non-profit government agencies who would save money by illegalising abortions?

Edited unnecessarry content. Maybe I should pray before posting in topics of such emotional content. Sorry to those that were offended.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

not all abortions are because of the womens 'sins', what about the women who are raped? why punish them for the horrible crime? Incest of children already mentioned....what about when its a medical risk? Some conidtion mean the women has to abort of she and the child will die......I'm against people using abortion as contraception, but there are some big cases for abortion being allowed...plus as most scientists will say in early weeks the 'baby' is a bunch cells.....I realise that after a certain time they start becoming a better more developed embroy but the OP of this thread is early abortions

Their sin comes when they lay on the table and have the baby murdered.

 

[The Seeker]

Sorry, I just looked at your age which you made blatantly obvious with this post. It does make things more clear and it is therefore probably unnecessary for us to continue this.

I suppose that's one way of pretending that you could come up with an answer if you wanted to.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

I suppose that's one way of pretending that you could come up with an answer if you wanted to.

Sorry, I choose not to respond to immature tantrums.

 

[The Seeker]

Sorry, I choose not to respond to immature tantrums.

I'm not the one refusing to respond to perfectly valid points raised in a debate. Suits me fine, all you've proven is that you lost.

Oh and did I mention nanny nanny boo boo

 

[Westvleteren]

The destruction of one child does not justify another.

Well, I'll give you points for consistency--you really do have no empathy for the woman.

 

[Kira Faye]

thats quite inappropiate I don't care how old u are Lyric's dad everyone here has a right to their opinion and also 18 is considered an adult

 

[Lyric's Dad]

thats quite inappropiate I don't care how old u are Lyric's dad everyone here has a right to their opinion and also 18 is considered an adult

I am not saying this toward all teenage people. In all actuality I have had very mature conversations with fourteen year olds. This was not the case with that individual. On the flip side, you for one seem very capable in your skills and level of maturity and knowlege.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

Sorry, I just looked at your age which you made blatantly obvious with this post. It does make things more clear and it is therefore probably unnecessary for us to continue this.

Fortunately there are some very mature teens on these boards that contribute to a worthwhile conversation.

It's good to see the age-old argument of ad hominem and insult hasn't died out.

You really let yourself down here. There was nothing immature in the post in question; thus far the person in question would certainly qualify as one of the "very mature teens on these boards that contribute to a worthwhile conversation". The fact that he disagrees with you is a poor basis on which to malign him.

Sorry, I choose not to respond to immature tantrums.

If one of these had occurred, you would have grounds. However, it's apparent that you also don't respond to people who make legitimate points simply because you don't want to, and you invent an insult to excuse yourself.

 

[xMinionX]

I am not saying this toward all teenage people. In all actuality I have had very mature conversations with fourteen year olds. This was not the case with that individual. On the flip side, you for one seem very capable in your skills and level of maturity and knowlege.

I don't suppose it ever occured to you that he disagrees with you and your positions because he's given it genuine thought, and not because "Oh, he's 18, it must be because he's immature and stupid."?

Sorry, I choose not to respond to immature tantrums.

I love it when people respond by saying they won't respond. I've seen it half a dozen times tonight.

 

[The Seeker]

I am not saying this toward all teenage people. In all actuality I have had very mature conversations with fourteen year olds. This was not the case with that individual. On the flip side, you for one seem very capable in your skills and level of maturity and knowlege.

Frankly, I don't see the point in continuing to argue with you if all you're going to do is insult me, so I won't. However, I'd like to point out that you still haven't properly responded to any of the points that I raised in my post. I can only assume that either you are so horribly offended by the idea that somebody might use humour to get their idea across that you had to go off on one at me, or that you just can't think of a decent response.

 

[rebel_conservative]

this is a baby at 10 weeks gestation, please don't try to tell me that is a "choice" or a "clump of cells"

 

[The Seeker]

this is a baby at 10 weeks gestation, please don't try to tell me that is a "choice" or a "clump of cells"

Its not a baby, its a fetus. The fact that it looks like a baby is neither here nor there.

 

[xMinionX]

this is a baby at 10 weeks gestation, please don't try to tell me that is a "choice" or a "clump of cells"

It's a choice and a clump of cells. Of course, you and I are clumps of cells too, sooo...

But see if you can measure brainwaves on that little 'person.' If you can, then I'll see an abortion of it as murder, and will oppose it. Otherwise, it's a lump of cells shaped like a baby that is not alive yet.