Abiogenesis

[lasthero]

Funnily enough, Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary also defines Spontaneous Generation as abiogenesis.

Spontaneous generation - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Are there any dictionaries that don't?

Scientific ones. Which is sort of important, since we're discussing science. When you talk about spontaneous generation of the kind Pasteur disproved and you talk about abiogenesis, you're talking about different things. Pasteur's experiment doesnt' factor into abiogenesis.

 

[ChetSinger]

Scientific ones. Which is sort of important, since we're discussing science. When you talk about spontaneous generation of the kind Pasteur disproved and you talk about abiogenesis, you're talking about different things. Pasteur's experiment doesnt' factor into abiogenesis.

A Medical Dictionary isn't scientific? We'll just have to disagree on that.

 

[crjmurray]

I'm no scientist but it seems odd that a dictionary would describe spontaneous generation as synonymous with abiogenisis. Sure they both concern life arising from nonlife but that doesn't make them the same.

 

[lasthero]

A Medical Dictionary isn't scientific? We'll just have to disagree on that.

I've provided actual scientists who've explained why they're not the sme thing, and what Pastuer's experiment was about. Those are the facts, and you haven't addressed them.

 

[ChetSinger]

I'm no scientist but it seems odd that a dictionary would describe spontaneous generation as synonymous with abiogenisis. Sure they both concern life arising from nonlife but that doesn't make them the same.

The details are different but concept is the same: life arising from nonlife. It's called "spontaneous generation" when referring to historical beliefs like worms arising from books, and "abiogenesis" when referring to the modern belief of cells arising from chemicals.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm no scientist but it seems odd that a dictionary would describe spontaneous generation as synonymous with abiogenisis. Sure they both concern life arising from nonlife but that doesn't make them the same.

Theys aw confuzed aint they?

 

[ChetSinger]

Those are the facts, and you haven't addressed them.

I won't be trolled. Dictionaries work for me, especially ones used by doctors.

 

[selfinflikted]

I won't be trolled. Dictionaries work for me, especially ones used by doctors.

You mean, dictionaries that agree with you?

 

[crjmurray]

Theys aw confuzed aint they?

The modern abiogenisis hypothesis is not the same as the old spontaneous generation hypothesis. Maybe those dictionaries are referring to an older definition of abiogenisis? I don't know.

 

[ChetSinger]

You mean, dictionaries that agree with you?

Well, I asked him to look for dictionaries that didn't...

 

[selfinflikted]

I asked him to look for dictionaries that didn't...

I know. I was just ribbing you.

 

[ChetSinger]

I know. I was just ribbing you.

Heh, you got me!

 

[Split Rock]

That just moves the goal posts. There is not enough time for life to accidentally develop, so we push back the time limits by saying
it came from space.

(bolding, mine)

Do you have some calculations to back this statement up?

 

[lasthero]

I won't be trolled. Dictionaries work for me, especially ones used by doctors.

I prefer to deal with what scietists say when talking about scientific matters. Call me crazy.

 

[Strathos]

Spontaneous generation = complex organisms mysteriously appearing from inanimate matter (i.e. maggots appearing from rotten meat)

Abiogenesis = simple, self-replicating molecules arising from inanimate matter via understood chemical processes (we just don't know exactly how or which processes, if it's true that is)

 

[AV1611VET]

Spontaneous generation = complex organisms mysteriously appearing from inanimate matter (i.e. maggots appearing from rotten meat)

I thought Chuck Missler explained this to you guys; but you guys balked about it?

What gives?

 

[quatona]

Is abiogenesis a theory?

I don´t think it is a scientific theory, at this point.

If so, what would pwn it?

I don´t know what "pwn" is.

I contend abiogenesis is a lie of the devil.

Yes, sure. The devil. Sure.

How sayest thou?

Using ancient English makes you sound so authoritative and intelligent.

 

[mzungu]

OK I'll bite!

What would we need to find in order to prove Abiogenesis false? Well we would have to have evidence of a deity first (any deity). then we would have to provide evidence that that deity created all life on Earth.

Let me ask you AV; what would we need to find in order to refute the existence of God?

 

[AV1611VET]

Let me ask you AV; what would we need to find in order to refute the existence of God?

God isn't a theory or hypothesis.

 

[mzungu]

God isn't a theory or hypothesis.

Now that is what I call a cop out. Since you insist on abiogenesis being false and that God created life then you have to play by the same rules you use on abiogenesis.

I asked you the same question you did but supplanted the word abiogenesis with the word God.

Now since I answered yours why do you shy away answering mine?