A Torah Observant Perspective on Paul on the Law
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I've come to the same conclusion, but not from the Torah. How did you come to this conclusion from the Torah? I'd like to add those verses to my notes.
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"Under the law"
Paul is the only one in the Bible who uses this phrase.
It's found 11 times in his writings.
Romans 3:19
(CLV) Ro 3:19
Now we are aware that, whatever the law is saying, it is speaking to those under the law, that every mouth may be barred, and the entire world may become subject to the just verdict of God,
Let's look at this very carefully. The law speaks to those under the law.
The law speaks so that every mouth in the entire world may become subject to YHWH's judgement.
As all are subject to YHWH's verdict; it appears that we have two groups here. One group is already subject to YHWH's judgement. The other would not be subject to YHWH's judgement in absence of his Torah.
The preceding verse serves to further define the behavior of those who are under the law:
(CLV) Ro 3:18
There is not fear of God in front of their eyes.
Why would we fear our loving Abba?
(CLV) Ex 20:20
Then Moses said to the people: Do not fear, for in order to probe you the One, Elohim has come, and in order that the fear of Him should come over your faces, that you may not sin.
What is sin?
(CLV) 1Jn 3:4
Everyone who is doing sin is doing lawlessness also, and sin is lawlessness.
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(CLV) Ro 6:14
For Sin shall not be lording it over you, for you are not under law, but under grace.
Which law?
Paul mentions at least 8 of them in this letter:
The Law of Faith (Ch 3)
A Different Law (Ch 7)
The Law of My Mind (Ch 7)
The Law of Sin (Sin's Law) (Ch 7)
God's Law (Ch 7)
The Spirit's Law of Life (Ch 8)
The Law of Sin and Death (Ch 8)
The Law of Righteousness (Ch 9)
I suppose that if sin is lording over you; then you are under The Law of Sin.
(CLV) Ro 6:15
What then? Should we be sinning, seeing that we are not under law, but under grace? May it not be coming to that!
Paul is telling us in no uncertain terms that we may not sin.
What is sin?
(CLV) 1Jn 3:4
Everyone who is doing sin is doing lawlessness also, and sin is lawlessness.
(CLV) Ro 7:7
What, then, shall we declare? That the law is sin? May it not be coming to that! But sin I knew not except through law. For besides, I had not been aware of coveting except the law said, "You shall not be coveting."
Surely The Law of Sin doesn't prohibit coveting.
The Law of YHWH does.
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(CLV) 1Co 9:20
And I became to the Jews as a Jew, that I should be gaining Jews; to those under (υπο) law (νομονas) under (υπο)law (νομονas) (not being myself under (υπο) law (νομονas) ), that I should be gaining those under (υπο) law (νομονas) ;
The Judaeans we're well familiar with YHWH's Law (Torah), but they were also practicing Works of Law.
I don't see "Works of Law" mentioned in the Torah. I don't see any mention of it by Yahshua. Where is Paul getting this?
It is mentioned 1 time in Romans and 6 times in Galatians.
It is also mentioned in the Qumran Scrolls.
Q394 (4QMMTa) 4QHalakhic Letter
Dead Sea Scrolls Project: 4QMMT
Definition of halacha
: the body of Jewish law supplementing the scriptural law and forming especially the legal part of the Talmud
Definition of HALACHA
Yahshua rebuked putting the traditions of men over the Torah.
(CLV) 1Co 9:21
to those without law as without law (not being without God's law, but legally (εννομος) Christ's), that I should be gaining those without law.
"Not being without," is a double negative. Paul is with YHWH's Law.
(CLV) 1Co 9:22
I became as weak to the weak, that I should be gaining the weak. To all have I become all, that I should undoubtedly be saving some.
Apart from the Judaeans the nations didn't even have the Torah
That said, just a few verses prior in this letter; Paul makes mention of the Torah:
Some misunderstand this passage.Paul was not a lawless crowd pleaser.
(CLV) Ga 1:10
For, at present, am I persuading men or God? Or am I seeking to please men? If I still pleased men, I were not a slave of Christ.
Acts 17:22-31 is an example of how Paul would put this behavior into practice.
(CLV) 1Co 9:
9 For in the law of Moses it is written: "You shall not muzzle the threshing ox.Not for oxen is the care of God!" 10 Or is He undoubtedly saying it because of us? Because of us, for it was written that the plower ought to be plowing in expectation, and the thresher to partake of his expectation."
HE'S SAYING THAT THE TORAH WAS WRITTEN BECAUSE OF US?
(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 3:19
What, then, is the law? On behalf of transgressions was it added, until the Seed should come to Whom He has promised, being prescribed through messengers in the hand of a mediator.
What law was added to what? Transgressions of what? Abraham had the law. The penal code for the land of Israel was added. Levitical priesthood was added. After the Seed (Yahshua) came; the Judaeans were exiled from the land, for rejecting YHWH's word in the flesh. The High Priesthood was transferred to Yahshua; as it is written.
(CLV) Ga 3:20
Now there is no Mediator of one. Yet God is One.
(CLV) Ga 3:21
Is the law, then, against the promises of God? May it not be coming to that! For if a law were given that is |able to vivify, really, righteousness were out of law.
YHWH's law is not against grace.
(CLV) Ga 3:22
But the scripture locks up all together under sin,
...because all have sinned.
The Law of Sin
that the promise out of Jesus Christ's faith may be given to those who are believing.
(CLV) Gn 15:6
Now Abram believed on Elohim, and He reckoned it to him for righteousness
(CLV) Gn 26:5
inasmuch as your father Abraham hearkened to My voice and kept My charge, My instructions, My statutes and My laws.
(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.
(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."
(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.
Obedience to YHWH's Law is the fruit of faith.
(CLV) Ga 3:23
Now before the coming of faith we were garrisoned under law, being locked together for the faith about to be revealed.
If we actually believe Yahshua; we will follow his example of obedience.
(CLV) Ja 2:14
What is the benefit, my brethren, if anyone should be saying he has faith, yet may have no works? That faith can not save him.
(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 4:4
Now when the full time came, God delegates His Son, come of a woman, come under law,
(CLV) Ga 4:5
that He should be reclaiming those under law, that we may be getting the place of a son.
Reclaiming them from what?
Paul makes it clear that those who are under the law, are those who have broken the law:
(CLV) Ro 1:5
through Whom we obtained grace and apostleship for faith-obedience among all the nations, for His name's sake,
(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 4:21
Tell me, you who want to be under law, are you not hearing the law?
Paul is asking why you would want to sin, knowing what YHWH's judgements will be.
(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 5:18
Now, if you are led by spirit, you are not still under law.
How can you break YHWH's laws being led by the spirit?
Let's look at this verse in a little more context.
(CLV) Ga 5:16
Now I am saying, Walk in spirit, and you should under no circumstances be consummating the lust of the flesh.
What is the lust of the flesh?
Here are some examples:
(CLV) Ga 5:19
Now apparent are the works of the flesh, which are adultery, prostitution, uncleanness, wantonness,
(CLV) Ga 5:20
idolatry, enchantment, enmities, strife, jealousies, furies, factions, dissensions, sects,
(CLV) Ga 5:21
envies, murders, drunkennesses, revelries, and the like of these, which, I am predicting to you, according as I predicted also, that those committing such things shall not be enjoying the allotment of the kingdom of God.
Yahshua set an example of how for us to behave in a way that is in the Father's will.
(CLV) Ro 8:29
that, whom He foreknew, He designates beforehand, also, to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be Firstborn among many brethren.
(CLV) Jn 16:7
"But I am telling you the truth. It is expedient for you that I may be coming away, for if I should not be coming away, the consoler will not be coming to you. Now if I should be gone, I will send him to you.
(CLV) Jn 16:8
And, coming, that will be exposing the world concerning sin and concerning
righteousness and concerning judging:
(CLV) Jn 16:9
concerning sin, indeed, seeing that they are not believing in Me;
(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.
Paul is the only one in the Bible who uses this phrase.
It's found 11 times in his writings.
Romans 3:19
(CLV) Ro 3:19
Now we are aware that, whatever the law is saying, it is speaking to those under the law, that every mouth may be barred, and the entire world may become subject to the just verdict of God,
Let's look at this very carefully. The law speaks to those under the law.
The law speaks so that every mouth in the entire world may become subject to YHWH's judgement.
As all are subject to YHWH's verdict; it appears that we have two groups here. One group is already subject to YHWH's judgement. The other would not be subject to YHWH's judgement in absence of his Torah.
The preceding verse serves to further define the behavior of those who are under the law:
(CLV) Ro 3:18
There is not fear of God in front of their eyes.
Why would we fear our loving Abba?
(CLV) Ex 20:20
Then Moses said to the people: Do not fear, for in order to probe you the One, Elohim has come, and in order that the fear of Him should come over your faces, that you may not sin.
What is sin?
(CLV) 1Jn 3:4
Everyone who is doing sin is doing lawlessness also, and sin is lawlessness.
==================================================
(CLV) Ro 6:14
For Sin shall not be lording it over you, for you are not under law, but under grace.
Which law?
Paul mentions at least 8 of them in this letter:
The Law of Faith (Ch 3)
A Different Law (Ch 7)
The Law of My Mind (Ch 7)
The Law of Sin (Sin's Law) (Ch 7)
God's Law (Ch 7)
The Spirit's Law of Life (Ch 8)
The Law of Sin and Death (Ch 8)
The Law of Righteousness (Ch 9)
I suppose that if sin is lording over you; then you are under The Law of Sin.
(CLV) Ro 6:15
What then? Should we be sinning, seeing that we are not under law, but under grace? May it not be coming to that!
Paul is telling us in no uncertain terms that we may not sin.
What is sin?
(CLV) 1Jn 3:4
Everyone who is doing sin is doing lawlessness also, and sin is lawlessness.
(CLV) Ro 7:7
What, then, shall we declare? That the law is sin? May it not be coming to that! But sin I knew not except through law. For besides, I had not been aware of coveting except the law said, "You shall not be coveting."
Surely The Law of Sin doesn't prohibit coveting.
The Law of YHWH does.
==================================================
(CLV) 1Co 9:20
And I became to the Jews as a Jew, that I should be gaining Jews; to those under (υπο) law (νομονas) under (υπο)law (νομονas) (not being myself under (υπο) law (νομονas) ), that I should be gaining those under (υπο) law (νομονas) ;
The Judaeans we're well familiar with YHWH's Law (Torah), but they were also practicing Works of Law.
I don't see "Works of Law" mentioned in the Torah. I don't see any mention of it by Yahshua. Where is Paul getting this?
It is mentioned 1 time in Romans and 6 times in Galatians.
It is also mentioned in the Qumran Scrolls.
Q394 (4QMMTa) 4QHalakhic Letter
Dead Sea Scrolls Project: 4QMMT
Definition of halacha
: the body of Jewish law supplementing the scriptural law and forming especially the legal part of the Talmud
Definition of HALACHA
Yahshua rebuked putting the traditions of men over the Torah.
(CLV) 1Co 9:21
to those without law as without law (not being without God's law, but legally (εννομος) Christ's), that I should be gaining those without law.
"Not being without," is a double negative. Paul is with YHWH's Law.
(CLV) 1Co 9:22
I became as weak to the weak, that I should be gaining the weak. To all have I become all, that I should undoubtedly be saving some.
Apart from the Judaeans the nations didn't even have the Torah
That said, just a few verses prior in this letter; Paul makes mention of the Torah:
Some misunderstand this passage.Paul was not a lawless crowd pleaser.
(CLV) Ga 1:10
For, at present, am I persuading men or God? Or am I seeking to please men? If I still pleased men, I were not a slave of Christ.
Acts 17:22-31 is an example of how Paul would put this behavior into practice.
(CLV) 1Co 9:
9 For in the law of Moses it is written: "You shall not muzzle the threshing ox.Not for oxen is the care of God!" 10 Or is He undoubtedly saying it because of us? Because of us, for it was written that the plower ought to be plowing in expectation, and the thresher to partake of his expectation."
HE'S SAYING THAT THE TORAH WAS WRITTEN BECAUSE OF US?
(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 3:19
What, then, is the law? On behalf of transgressions was it added, until the Seed should come to Whom He has promised, being prescribed through messengers in the hand of a mediator.
What law was added to what? Transgressions of what? Abraham had the law. The penal code for the land of Israel was added. Levitical priesthood was added. After the Seed (Yahshua) came; the Judaeans were exiled from the land, for rejecting YHWH's word in the flesh. The High Priesthood was transferred to Yahshua; as it is written.
(CLV) Ga 3:20
Now there is no Mediator of one. Yet God is One.
(CLV) Ga 3:21
Is the law, then, against the promises of God? May it not be coming to that! For if a law were given that is |able to vivify, really, righteousness were out of law.
YHWH's law is not against grace.
(CLV) Ga 3:22
But the scripture locks up all together under sin,
...because all have sinned.
The Law of Sin
that the promise out of Jesus Christ's faith may be given to those who are believing.
(CLV) Gn 15:6
Now Abram believed on Elohim, and He reckoned it to him for righteousness
(CLV) Gn 26:5
inasmuch as your father Abraham hearkened to My voice and kept My charge, My instructions, My statutes and My laws.
(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.
(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."
(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.
Obedience to YHWH's Law is the fruit of faith.
(CLV) Ga 3:23
Now before the coming of faith we were garrisoned under law, being locked together for the faith about to be revealed.
If we actually believe Yahshua; we will follow his example of obedience.
(CLV) Ja 2:14
What is the benefit, my brethren, if anyone should be saying he has faith, yet may have no works? That faith can not save him.
(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 4:4
Now when the full time came, God delegates His Son, come of a woman, come under law,
(CLV) Ga 4:5
that He should be reclaiming those under law, that we may be getting the place of a son.
Reclaiming them from what?
Paul makes it clear that those who are under the law, are those who have broken the law:
(CLV) Ro 1:5
through Whom we obtained grace and apostleship for faith-obedience among all the nations, for His name's sake,
(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 4:21
Tell me, you who want to be under law, are you not hearing the law?
Paul is asking why you would want to sin, knowing what YHWH's judgements will be.
(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.
==================================================
(CLV) Ga 5:18
Now, if you are led by spirit, you are not still under law.
How can you break YHWH's laws being led by the spirit?
Let's look at this verse in a little more context.
(CLV) Ga 5:16
Now I am saying, Walk in spirit, and you should under no circumstances be consummating the lust of the flesh.
What is the lust of the flesh?
Here are some examples:
(CLV) Ga 5:19
Now apparent are the works of the flesh, which are adultery, prostitution, uncleanness, wantonness,
(CLV) Ga 5:20
idolatry, enchantment, enmities, strife, jealousies, furies, factions, dissensions, sects,
(CLV) Ga 5:21
envies, murders, drunkennesses, revelries, and the like of these, which, I am predicting to you, according as I predicted also, that those committing such things shall not be enjoying the allotment of the kingdom of God.
Yahshua set an example of how for us to behave in a way that is in the Father's will.
(CLV) Ro 8:29
that, whom He foreknew, He designates beforehand, also, to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be Firstborn among many brethren.
(CLV) Jn 16:7
"But I am telling you the truth. It is expedient for you that I may be coming away, for if I should not be coming away, the consoler will not be coming to you. Now if I should be gone, I will send him to you.
(CLV) Jn 16:8
And, coming, that will be exposing the world concerning sin and concerning
righteousness and concerning judging:
(CLV) Jn 16:9
concerning sin, indeed, seeing that they are not believing in Me;
(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.
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I just started a new series.
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 1
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 2
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 3
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 4
SHABBAT SHALOM!
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 1
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 2
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 3
Paul Teaches from the TaNaK: Romans 4
SHABBAT SHALOM!
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