A thread on evolution

[TBDude65]

Thanks! I was probably mostly going by the tail-like thing:

(This is where it becomes clear I only took one Paleo class and that was >30 years ago!)

Then you will probably be excited by this paper:
Tully Monster Mystery Solved, Scientists Say

 

[xianghua]

you have stellar evolution, if you search google scholar, and you have biological evolution, and you have chemical evolution (abiogenesis), all searchable on google scholar as terms scientists use. I wish to question stellar evolution, in this thread....

in the first video...richard dawkins believes nothing caused everything. But nothing cannot perform actions" a college student rightly states, in the second video. Both video's prove evolution false. not just stellar evolution, but the second video proves chemical and biological evolution false as well. In fact 90% of atheists questioned in the long video, recanted of their views and became theist by the end of the movie. So I challenge you atheists out there, to watch both video's in entirety.

full version here:

intelligent design for this thread is off topic, even though bits and pieces of intelligent design may be responded to in posts. But if it goes over 5 posts it will be reported as off topic.

dawkins also admit that : "Biology is the study of complex things that appear to have been designed for a purpose". and he indeed right. but he wrong about evolution because we now have evidence against it.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

dawkins also admit that : "Biology is the study of complex things that appear to have been designed for a purpose". and he indeed right. but he wrong about evolution because we now have evidence against it.

What you just wrote is a quote-mine, since it's not the whole of what Dawkins wrote in The Blind Watchmaker. This is the quote in full:
"The difference is one of complexity of design. Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose. Physics is the study of simple things that do not tempt us to invoke design. At first sight, man-made artefacts like computers and cars will seem to provide exceptions. They are complicated and obviously designed for a purpose, yet they are not alive, and they are made of metal and plastic rather than of flesh and blood. In this book they will be firmly treated as biological objects."

And there is ZERO evidence that shows that evolution is wrong.

 

[createdtoworship]

Nope, you make up stories that are not supported by either.

And you still misinterpreted the KJV.

have you even read it? as an atheist? I doubt it. nothing but cut and past from one of your half dozen go to sites. I know how it works. you think we don't know about the bias of talk origins?

 

[Subduction Zone]

have you even read it? as an atheist? I doubt it.

I have not read the entire KJV, but I have read that part of it.

 

[bhsmte]

have you even read it? as an atheist? I doubt it. nothing but cut and past from one of your half dozen go to sites. I know how it works. you think we don't know about the bias of talk origins?

Studies have shown, atheists have a good deal of knowledge in regards to religion and scripture and more so than some believers. Could be how some folks became atheists, by studying and learning about scripture.

 

[createdtoworship]

I have not read the entire KJV, but I have read that part of it.

So then maybe you read this verse: 2 Tim 3:5...having a form of godliness but denying the power. it is possible to know about God and not know him personally.

 

[createdtoworship]

Studies have shown, atheists have a good deal of knowledge in regards to religion and scripture and more so than some believers. Could be how some folks became atheists, by studying and learning about scripture.

even Satan himself can quote scripture, what does it make you guys if you can too?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So then maybe you read this verse: 2 Tim 3:5...having a form of godliness but denying the power. it is possible to know about God and not know him personally.

Yes, a defensive verse.

So what? If you want to give any credibility to that verse you need to prove that the Bible is correct. Otherwise it is merely the same sort of verse that many religions put into their holy books.

Just because the Bible says "you can't understand this unless you really really believe" does not mean that others cannot understand it. That is only an unsupported claim of the Bible that gives believers a undeserved pat one the back.

 

[createdtoworship]

What you just wrote is a quote-mine, since it's not the whole of what Dawkins wrote in The Blind Watchmaker. This is the quote in full:
"The difference is one of complexity of design. Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose. Physics is the study of simple things that do not tempt us to invoke design. At first sight, man-made artefacts like computers and cars will seem to provide exceptions. They are complicated and obviously designed for a purpose, yet they are not alive, and they are made of metal and plastic rather than of flesh and blood. In this book they will be firmly treated as biological objects."

And there is ZERO evidence that shows that evolution is wrong.

Quote mines don't exist, you can't find that term in any official dictionary.

 

[Subduction Zone]

even Satan himself can quote scripture, what does it make you guys if you can too?

Yes, characters in books can do that sort of thing. Not too convincing of an argument.

 

[createdtoworship]

Yes, a defensive verse.

So what? If you want to give any credibility to that verse you need to prove that the Bible is correct. Otherwise it is merely the same sort of verse that many religions put into their holy books.

Just because the Bible says "you can't understand this unless you really really believe" does not mean that others cannot understand it. That is only an unsupported claim of the Bible that gives believers a undeserved pat one the back.

Reading the Bible without the spirit is like reading the Quran and not knowing arabic.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Quote mines don't exist, you can't find that term in any official dictionary.

Oh my! Then by your "logic" God does not exist since the Bible says 12 times "there is no god".

Perhaps you would be better off to admit that there is such a thing.

By the way, one of the reasons that it cannot be found in any "official dictionary" is because there not any "official dictionaries". Again, not the best of arguments on your part.

 

[createdtoworship]

Yes, characters in books can do that sort of thing. Not too convincing of an argument.

I will say it again if Satan can do what you claim to do, what does it make you?

 

[createdtoworship]

Oh my! Then by your "logic" God does not exist since the Bible says 12 times "there is no god".

Perhaps you would be better off to admit that there is such a thing.

By the way, one of the reasons that it cannot be found in any "official dictionary" is because there not any "official dictionaries". Again, not the best of arguments on your part.

That's a quote out of context. not a quote mine. score number 2 for the old gradyll

 

[Subduction Zone]

Reading the Bible without the spirit is like reading the Quran and not knowing arabic.

So you are now fluent in Arabic? That is somewhat dubious since you did not even spell it properly (the first letter in languages is always upper case).

 

[createdtoworship]

Even the Devils believe in one God, so what does it make you if you conclude God exists even?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I will say it again if Satan can do what you claim to do, what does it make you?

If you are implying that it makes me evil or a liar then once again by your "logic" you are too since you seem to think that you have the same ability.

 

[createdtoworship]

So you are now fluent in Arabic? That is somewhat dubious since you did not even spell it properly (the first letter in languages is always upper case).

Please reread and quote where I said I can read fluent arabic. and also quote where you can comprehend a spiritual language.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Even the Devils believe in one God, so what does it make you if you conclude God exists even?

Oh my! And Sauron knew about the Eldar. So what?