A thought I had....

[Far Side Of the Moon]

In some ways I feel like I'm somewhat lucky ...

I feel like God definitely watches out for me A lot. Some situations I definitely think I could have died in... Like last night I got on to a situation that could have been alot worse than what it was...

I also feel a bit blessed like Monday when I was at work ...and cleaning a room a guy just came in and gave me money..

Sometimes I wonder if the reason I dont hear God well or have a super intimate relationship with him is because ...He's done enough and is still doing more than enough for me already.

Ive never been abused; physically,sexually or whatever and like I said ive been lucky in some dangerous situations...


What do you think?

 

[Dave-W]

God watches out for all of us. Not one thing happens to us that He does not allow.

Ive never been abused; physically,sexually or whatever and like I said ive been lucky in some dangerous situations...

Praise Him for that. But it is not just about you; take that and encourage others with it.

There is a lot you can share and teach to those who have been abused about what "normal" is supposed to be like.

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ETA: IMO most young people (and certainly everyone my age and up) who grew up in the church world were abused to one degree or another by legalism. It is a spiritual abuse than can manifest in a variety of ways. Victorianism, Gothardism and "Purity Culture" were certainly sexual legalism abuses.

No dating, no dancing, no rock or blues music, no alcohol consumption were other doctrinal abuses. Over emphasis on "personal holiness" to the detriment of healthy relationships and helping people in need is another abuse. (remember the Good Samaritan?)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

In some ways I feel like I'm somewhat lucky ...
What do you think?

Whatever happens, trust YHWH (God), have faith in the perfect faithfulness of Jesus.

This is not luck nor lucky - God hates it when His people call on or give credit to lady luck.

No matter all things good or bad, Jesus is perfectly Faithful, and Honors every Promise He Made.(to Shepherd us) ....

This is always truth, especially seen in the lives of the martyrs (Foxes Book of Martyrs).

 

[Jonathan Leo]

In some ways I feel like I'm somewhat lucky ...

I feel like God definitely watches out for me A lot. Some situations I definitely think I could have died in... Like last night I got on to a situation that could have been alot worse than what it was...

I also feel a bit blessed like Monday when I was at work ...and cleaning a room a guy just came in and gave me money..

Sometimes I wonder if the reason I dont hear God well or have a super intimate relationship with him is because ...He's done enough and is still doing more than enough for me already.

Ive never been abused; physically,sexually or whatever and like I said ive been lucky in some dangerous situations...


What do you think?

I have been abused as a child, mentally, physically and sexually. I was between 6 and 13 years old. I was 8 when I was sexually abused. I was a child who couldn't explain what was happening. Where was God for my protection?? God will not interfere with free will.
When I done Christian counselling, I was asked with my mind meditating and eyes closed to ask God where He was when I played back my memory to the sexual abuse. He was there watching it play out crying. He then took my hand out of the dark room and we walked into a field with rainbows and light, very bright green feild and light. We were holding hands and laughing.

God will not interfere or protect us the way we envision He will. What I got from that meditating session was that it breaks His heart when evil things are done to us and whilst He won't intervene, He will one day make everything perfect.

As we know from scripture that whilst God doesn't allow Satan to have his way with us. (Book of Job) He won't interfere with mans actions. We know from the book of Job that God did indeed bless him for His righteousness and called the shots on how Satan would come and put him through trials to tast his faith. But God won't interfere with mans actions. God gave us free will and dominion over the earth.
Another scripture is Ecclesiastes 7 17. God tells us not be foolish. Why end your life before your time. If God was to protect us, then He wouldn't warn us against it. Again, free will for better or worse.
Another scripture is Jeremiah 29, whilst it is more times than not taken out of context and misinterpreted, God does say He has a plan for our lives, but again with free will, we can live not according to what God suggests.

I'm Glad you were never abused, but unfortunately for a lot of people they were. It's why they cry out such things like " if there was a God, He wouldn't have allowed this to happen" They simply don't read the bible and find out exactly who He is. Through my abuse, I became a nasty negative person who hated God. Following Jesus has revealed why it happened, why He allowed it happen and how to walk away from the hurt and live a positive joyful life.
Whilst there are times that we escape danger, one could call it God having a hold over your life but again, I will debate that because if that were the case, why don't all believers in Christ grow old and die in their sleep. Another point is why aren't believers being protected from decapitation and other brutal deaths?

God does say that one day He will fix everything and sin will be no more but not now in our lives today.
We can say God has blessed us with such things as having food, clothes and a roof over our heads. It's even good to give Him the grattitude but as scripture states
God blesses the righteous and the unrighteous. God is not a God of favouritism and a none believer can equally have a close shave with everyday dangers that are liable for killing many as they do, everyday.

My advise is look at it from Gods point of view and judge both believers and none believers. Yes believers give thanks to God and none believers don't, but both never the less eat, sleep and face the same circumstances as everybody else.
What I do know about God is whilst He won't intervene, He will use our troubles, goals and life experiences to teach us and ultimately give Him the glory. God never loses and thank God for that. Isn't it a great joy to know this?

 

[Far Side Of the Moon]

I have been abused as a child, mentally, physically and sexually. I was between 6 and 13 years old. I was 8 when I was sexually abused. I was a child who couldn't explain what was happening. Where was God for my protection?? God will not interfere with free will.
When I done Christian counselling, I was asked with my mind meditating and eyes closed to ask God where He was when I played back my memory to the sexual abuse. He was there watching it play out crying. He then took my hand out of the dark room and we walked into a field with rainbows and light, very bright green feild and light. We were holding hands and laughing.

God will not interfere or protect us the way we envision He will. What I got from that meditating session was that it breaks His heart when evil things are done to us and whilst He won't intervene, He will one day make everything perfect.

As we know from scripture that whilst God doesn't allow Satan to have his way with us. (Book of Job) He won't interfere with mans actions. We know from the book of Job that God did indeed bless him for His righteousness and called the shots on how Satan would come and put him through trials to tast his faith. But God won't interfere with mans actions. God gave us free will and dominion over the earth.
Another scripture is Ecclesiastes 7 17. God tells us not be foolish. Why end your life before your time. If God was to protect us, then He wouldn't warn us against it. Again, free will for better or worse.
Another scripture is Jeremiah 29, whilst it is more times than not taken out of context and misinterpreted, God does say He has a plan for our lives, but again with free will, we can live not according to what God suggests.

I'm Glad you were never abused, but unfortunately for a lot of people they were. It's why they cry out such things like " if there was a God, He wouldn't have allowed this to happen" They simply don't read the bible and find out exactly who He is. Through my abuse, I became a nasty negative person who hated God. Following Jesus has revealed why it happened, why He allowed it happen and how to walk away from the hurt and live a positive joyful life.
Whilst there are times that we escape danger, one could call it God having a hold over your life but again, I will debate that because if that were the case, why don't all believers in Christ grow old and die in their sleep. Another point is why aren't believers being protected from decapitation and other brutal deaths?

God does say that one day He will fix everything and sin will be no more but not now in our lives today.
We can say God has blessed us with such things as having food, clothes and a roof over our heads. It's even good to give Him the grattitude but as scripture states
God blesses the righteous and the unrighteous. God is not a God of favouritism and a none believer can equally have a close shave with everyday dangers that are liable for killing many as they do, everyday.

My advise is look at it from Gods point of view and judge both believers and none believers. Yes believers give thanks to God and none believers don't, but both never the less eat, sleep and face the same circumstances as everybody else.
What I do know about God is whilst He won't intervene, He will use our troubles, goals and life experiences to teach us and ultimately give Him the glory. God never loses and thank God for that. Isn't it a great joy to know this?

I kinda agree with you but I do think God does intervene from time to time...if he didnt I feel most of us would be dead.
.but I'm so sorry you went through such a horrible tragedy...
And I'm happy god brought you great comfort.

 

[Far Side Of the Moon]

I have been abused as a child, mentally, physically and sexually. I was between 6 and 13 years old. I was 8 when I was sexually abused. I was a child who couldn't explain what was happening. Where was God for my protection?? God will not interfere with free will.
When I done Christian counselling, I was asked with my mind meditating and eyes closed to ask God where He was when I played back my memory to the sexual abuse. He was there watching it play out crying. He then took my hand out of the dark room and we walked into a field with rainbows and light, very bright green feild and light. We were holding hands and laughing.

God will not interfere or protect us the way we envision He will. What I got from that meditating session was that it breaks His heart when evil things are done to us and whilst He won't intervene, He will one day make everything perfect.

As we know from scripture that whilst God doesn't allow Satan to have his way with us. (Book of Job) He won't interfere with mans actions. We know from the book of Job that God did indeed bless him for His righteousness and called the shots on how Satan would come and put him through trials to tast his faith. But God won't interfere with mans actions. God gave us free will and dominion over the earth.
Another scripture is Ecclesiastes 7 17. God tells us not be foolish. Why end your life before your time. If God was to protect us, then He wouldn't warn us against it. Again, free will for better or worse.
Another scripture is Jeremiah 29, whilst it is more times than not taken out of context and misinterpreted, God does say He has a plan for our lives, but again with free will, we can live not according to what God suggests.

I'm Glad you were never abused, but unfortunately for a lot of people they were. It's why they cry out such things like " if there was a God, He wouldn't have allowed this to happen" They simply don't read the bible and find out exactly who He is. Through my abuse, I became a nasty negative person who hated God. Following Jesus has revealed why it happened, why He allowed it happen and how to walk away from the hurt and live a positive joyful life.
Whilst there are times that we escape danger, one could call it God having a hold over your life but again, I will debate that because if that were the case, why don't all believers in Christ grow old and die in their sleep. Another point is why aren't believers being protected from decapitation and other brutal deaths?

God does say that one day He will fix everything and sin will be no more but not now in our lives today.
We can say God has blessed us with such things as having food, clothes and a roof over our heads. It's even good to give Him the grattitude but as scripture states
God blesses the righteous and the unrighteous. God is not a God of favouritism and a none believer can equally have a close shave with everyday dangers that are liable for killing many as they do, everyday.

My advise is look at it from Gods point of view and judge both believers and none believers. Yes believers give thanks to God and none believers don't, but both never the less eat, sleep and face the same circumstances as everybody else.
What I do know about God is whilst He won't intervene, He will use our troubles, goals and life experiences to teach us and ultimately give Him the glory. God never loses and thank God for that. Isn't it a great joy to know this?

What did God says about why h3 allowed it to happen? If you dont mind sharing...if its too much ill back off immediately.

 

[Jonathan Leo]

I kinda agree with you but I do think God does intervene from time to time...if he didnt I feel most of us would be dead.
.but I'm so sorry you went through such a horrible tragedy...
And I'm happy god brought you great comfort.

All I can go off is my walk and life expieriances as it unfolds. And yes, great comfort He has brought. Before I was saved, I met the guy who sexually abused me. It was in a shopping market and It was in the alcohol section. I ran at him with a bottle of wine and slapped it full force of his face. He dropped immediately and when I had the neck of the broken bottle in my hand, I wanted to stick it in his throat but I froze still. I have played it over and over in my mind how I was one day going to kill him, but when the day came and I was at the very moment of killing him, something stopped me. Today I know that it was God who stopped me.
God can intervene at His will and this is a perfect example. The part my post is pointing at is when I hear of stories like common sense could have saved the day.
Example
A Christian says " I was travelling in my car today and I had to swerve to avoid a head on collision. It was God who saved me from having an accident. Meanwhile, pastor bob from Canada was traveling in His car with his wife and children and a head on collision killed all the family. The driver of the other car was drunk and escaped with minor cuts and bruises. Is it Gods will to leave one survive but wipe out the whole family of believers and leave the unbelieving drunk guy escape?? Not everything comes from God in that sense. We get messed up by all sorts because of our own free will and God does not nor won't stop things from happening. He can use our stumbling for our benefit and His glory.
Death is part of life because of sin. How we die or escape danger is not entirely up to God, whilst He can intervene if He wills, He doesn't intervene in everything.

It was 7 or 8 years after my run in with my sexual abuser before I truly found God. He was there the whole time since I was born but never showed up or tried to stop the numerous attacks on me as a child. We need to think logically about how and God intervenes. How I got saved was funny actually because once again, God did not intervene. Instead He stood back and watched me steer my own life into the ground. When I was broken, I cried out to The God I hated so much. I used tell Him as a teenager I was going to kick His head in when I get to heaven lol. Since I cried out to Him and He revealed Himself to me, I am a very different boy. I know when I talk to Him about the way I was, He's laughing because I too laugh in my spirit. Lol me, a speck of dust going to beat up God? Ha ha ha, oh the innocence from a grieving heart lol

To reply to your other post, why did God say He allowed it?
He allowed it because man has free will and man has a choice to do either right or wrong. The same choice and free will can also deny me. It's not He doesn't see it or cares, He do, but He can't intervene with mans decision. Try to imagine God our father sitting at your bedside watching a paedophile who He created molest his 8 year old whom he also created. Logic would make us kill the molester to save the 8 year old. But again, God can't intervene with mans free will. Come to think of it, God was crying for both of us that night. His very own creation doing explicit things to another of a His creation. Kind of explains why He flooded the earth first time around lol

 

[Jonathan Leo]

What did God says about why h3 allowed it to happen? If you dont mind sharing...if its too much ill back off immediately.

Mentioned in the end of the Big post.

 

[Far Side Of the Moon]

All I can go off is my walk and life expieriances as it unfolds. And yes, great comfort He has brought. Before I was saved, I met the guy who sexually abused me. It was in a shopping market and It was in the alcohol section. I ran at him with a bottle of wine and slapped it full force of his face. He dropped immediately and when I had the neck of the broken bottle in my hand, I wanted to stick it in his throat but I froze still. I have played it over and over in my mind how I was one day going to kill him, but when the day came and I was at the very moment of killing him, something stopped me. Today I know that it was God who stopped me.
God can intervene at His will and this is a perfect example. The part my post is pointing at is when I hear of stories like common sense could have saved the day.
Example
A Christian says " I was travelling in my car today and I had to swerve to avoid a head on collision. It was God who saved me from having an accident. Meanwhile, pastor bob from Canada was traveling in His car with his wife and children and a head on collision killed all the family. The driver of the other car was drunk and escaped with minor cuts and bruises. Is it Gods will to leave one survive but wipe out the whole family of believers and leave the unbelieving drunk guy escape?? Not everything comes from God in that sense. We get messed up by all sorts because of our own free will and God does not nor won't stop things from happening. He can use our stumbling for our benefit and His glory.
Death is part of life because of sin. How we die or escape danger is not entirely up to God, whilst He can intervene if He wills, He doesn't intervene in everything.

It was 7 or 8 years after my run in with my sexual abuser before I truly found God. He was there the whole time since I was born but never showed up or tried to stop the numerous attacks on me as a child. We need to think logically about how and God intervenes. How I got saved was funny actually because once again, God did not intervene. Instead He stood back and watched me steer my own life into the ground. When I was broken, I cried out to The God I hated so much. I used tell Him as a teenager I was going to kick His head in when I get to heaven lol. Since I cried out to Him and He revealed Himself to me, I am a very different boy. I know when I talk to Him about the way I was, He's laughing because I too laugh in my spirit. Lol me, a speck of dust going to beat up God? Ha ha ha, oh the innocence from a grieving heart lol

To reply to your other post, why did God say He allowed it?
He allowed it because man has free will and man has a choice to do either right or wrong. The same choice and free will can also deny me. It's not He doesn't see it or cares, He do, but He can't intervene with mans decision. Try to imagine God our father sitting at your bedside watching a paedophile who He created molest his 8 year old whom he also created. Logic would make us kill the molester to save the 8 year old. But again, God can't intervene with mans free will. Come to think of it, God was crying for both of us that night. His very own creation doing explicit things to another of a His creation. Kind of explains why He flooded the earth first time around lol

I think you're wisdom and acceptance speaks volumes. I admire your character.

 

[Jonathan Leo]

I think you're wisdom and acceptance speaks volumes. I admire your character.

Thank you but just a humble guy who uses my life experiences and my knowledge of Our Father to try and better people's situations. I tried to become a qualified councillor, past the college entrance exams too but my criminal record let me down.
God has forgiven me but the authorities haven't. Again, one of those situations where you wish God would intervene but hasn't, but I'm sure if God wills that I will look back in 10 years and see God was also with me all along.
Thank you for your encouragement

 

[Joy]

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