A Third Temple Is A Slap Across Christ's Face.....

[BABerean2]

It causes the end of the Church age and the begging of Daniels 70th week

The 70th week ended almost 2,000 years ago, according to the words of the angel Gabriel.

The Church age does not end.


Who Confirmed The Covenant?

http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023


Origin of the Pretrib Rapture Doctrine

http://www.answersinrevelation.org/pretrib_history.pdf


Grant Jeffrey’s revision of early Church Posttrib viewpoints

http://www.answersinrevelation.org/Jeffrey.pdf


PROPHETIC DEVELOPMENTS

with particular reference to the early Brethren Movement.

F. Roy Coad (Brethren Historian) read pages 10-26

http://brethrenhistory.org/qwicsitePro/php/docsview.php?docid=418



Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.




Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.




1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.




Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

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[Straightshot]

"Who Confirmed The Covenant?"


Correction .... who will confirm the covenant that the Lord has with His national people Israel? [Daniel 9:24-27]

The Lord Himself will confirm during the 70th week decreed for Israel still pending .... the other prince will come to desecrate [Jeremiah 30; 31:31-37]

 

[Steve Petersen]

You are spot on. This is the worst thing that can happen in our time. It is the abomination that causes desolation. It is the reason Satan can appear. It is the reason the Holy Spirit and the believers in Christ are raptured. It causes the end of the Church age and the begging of Daniels 70th week. It is the nexus point of all the new testament. Every warning points to it and everything bad that comes, comes out of it. It is the UNresurrection. The third temple might as well be called the synagog of satan. The third temple will be built in the next several years and anyone still alive during that time who does not want to take part in the great deception better be praying for salvation that entire time because the rapture happens around that time because of what they do in the temple.

When you see the sacrificial animal standing where it should not be standing (because there is no need to sacrifice an animal to God anymore since Jesus became the sacrifice and doing so is an abomination to God) you better start running because you only have a short time before they cut its throat. When that happens all bets are off on your ability to be raptured. Especially if you are watching this live on TV.

Did Paul not get this? He brought sacrifices to the Temple AFTER his conversion.

 

[Reyes4Christ]

Did Paul not get this? He brought sacrifices to the Temple AFTER his conversion.

jews following old covenant traditions is not as severe as the third temple sacrifice. They really have to go out of their way to do this particular act. It's like one is don't out of ignorance and the other is willful disobedience to the extreme. Israel will have to give up land and probably other things to their enemies to even begin to build a third temple. On top of that this building won't even be owned by the Jews completely. There are multiple levels of horrible applied to this slap in the face your talking about.

 

[Straightshot]

No temple of the Lord's or sacrifices on the mount during the tribulation [Revelation 11:2]

The little horn of Daniel's visions will sit in a pagan temple of his "god" .... this edifice is already on the mount today

The Lord's next temple will be built just after the tribulation [Ezekiel 40] .... and He will require memorial sacrificing during His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth for the mortal populations of the kingdom

 

[LastSeven]

So much confusion among Christians.

 

[Straightshot]

No doubt .... and this will get progressively more so as the end comes closer

However, there is a right way to render the Lord's Word

.... and when one finds it, there is no confusion

He is not a God of confusion

 

[Reyes4Christ]

No temple of the Lord's or sacrifices on the mount during the tribulation [Revelation 11:2]

The little horn of Daniel's visions will sit in a pagan temple of his "god" .... this edifice is already on the mount today

The Lord's next temple will be built just after the tribulation [Ezekiel 40] .... and He will require memorial sacrificing during His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth for the mortal populations of the kingdom

The third temple we see built will not be of the Lords, it will be built for the express purpose of bringing aboout the worship of satan. It was never my intention to imply in my earlier posts that this third temple is for the one true God or that it is built to please him. This third temple is as anti Christ as the antichrist himself is.

 

[Steve Petersen]

The third temple we see built will not be of the Lords, it will be built for the express purpose of bringing aboout the worship of satan. It was never my intention to imply in my earlier posts that this third temple is for the one true God or that it is built to please him. This third temple is as anti Christ as the antichrist himself is.

You sound like a guy who has his mind firmly made up. Is there really any point in a conversation?

 

[Straightshot]

"The third temple we see built will not be of the Lords, it will be built for the express purpose of bringing aboout the worship of satan. It was never my intention to imply in my earlier posts that this third temple is for the one true God or that it is built to please him. This third temple is as anti Christ as the antichrist himself is."


I believe you are not correct on this matter .... Revelation 11:2 says "without " a temple of the Lord's on the mount .... His temple in heaven during the tribulation is seen here [Revelation 11:1] .... and not on the earth .... the same seen several times throughout Revelation's unfolding

..... and those who worship therein are His immortal pre-tribulation ecclesia [Revelation 4:4; 5:1-10; 7:9-17; 11:1; 12:12; 13:6; 17:14; 19:1-9

The "antichrist" will rise out of the Muslim Middle East and this one will worship the "god" of forces who is none other than Satan .... the Muslim "Allah" [Daniel 11:38-39]

The Muslim temple is already on the mount as we speak

 

[Jipsah]

The Lord Himself will confirm during the 70th week decreed for Israel still pending .... the other prince will come to desecrate [Jeremiah 30; 31:31-37]

26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off OK? So right there we know where week 69 ended, don't we? So what's supposed to happen in Week 70?

the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary

OK, that happened.

and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Not sure about the flood, but war desolations there were aplenty. Check that one fulfilled.

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: Not sure who "he"is (although I'm sure you'll claim that you know precisely who it was <Laugh>)

and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, That sure enough happened. Mark as fulfilled.

and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. The Temple was certainly made desolate and spread with abominations. Check as fulfilled.

Looks if you read a little history (Heaven forfend!) then you'll see that the 70th week happened - wait for it - immediately after the 69th week! Amazing, huh? Who'd a thunk it?

Unless of course you'd like to argue that those things never happened, in which case let us know the rest of the news from your planet.

 

[Straightshot]

Happened .... not Jip .... still to come


Your Brother Buford is false teacher

 

[Jipsah]

However, there is a right way to render the Lord's Word

Which apparently, from your example, means discarding what it says and replacing it with your favorite doctrine.

 

[Jipsah]

Happened .... not Jip .... still to come

Temple wasn't destroyed? Jerusalem wasn't sacked? No abominations committed in the Temple before its destruction? Sacrifice and oblation still going on unhindered? James Earl Jones still President of the US in your universe?

 

[Jipsah]

The Lord's next temple will be built just after the tribulation [Ezekiel 40] .... and He will require memorial sacrificing during His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth for the mortal populations of the kingdom

Memorial sacrifice? Looks like you haven't read Ezekiel any more than you have Hebrews? Nary a word there about "memorial sacrifice". Let's see a bit of Ezekiel 43, shall we?

18 And he said unto me, Son of man, thus saith the Lord God; These are the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon.
19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.
20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.
22 And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they did cleanse it with the bullock.
23 When thou hast made an end of cleansing it, thou shalt offer a young bullock without blemish, and a ram out of the flock without blemish.
24 And thou shalt offer them before the Lord, and the priests shall cast salt upon them, and they shall offer them up for a burnt offering unto the Lord.
25 Seven days shalt thou prepare every day a goat for a sin offering: they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without blemish.
26 Seven days shall they purge the altar and purify it; and they shall consecrate themselves.
27 And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the altar, and your peace offerings; and I will accept you, saith the Lord God.

It continues on through the next few chapters. No mention of any "memorial", just the sin offerings and trespass offerings and all the stuff required under the Mosaic Law.

And that's where your New Religion is taking you - back to Temple Judaism, casting aside salvation by the Blood of Christ.

 

[Job8]

... about how wonderful it will be when "the Jews" finally build their Third Temple.

If Christians would carefully study the entire Bible and understand God's ENTIRE plan for both the Church and Israel, it would not be "how wonderful" concerning the third temple, which will be taken over by the Antichrist. However, there will be a fourth Temple -- the one described in Ezekiel -- which is after the third temple has been desecrated and demolished.

In the mind and beliefs of true Christians, wouldn't the reinstitution of animal sacrifice be a slap in the face of Christ Himself and all that they believe in??

There can be no argument with that statement. At the same time Christians need to clearly understand that Israel is presently in unbelief and looking for a false messiah. Therefore the third temple is a logical necessity to fulfil all prophecies. Orthodox Rabbinic Judaism is a continuation of the beliefs of the Pharisees, who rejected Christ.

Am I missing the point here or is everybody else?? Don't Christians believe that God dwells in a "temple" not made by human hands??

Yes, God does indeed dwell in each and every believer, and in the Church, which is the Body, the Bride, and the Building (or Temple) of Christ. However, THAT DOES NOT NULLIFY THE FACT THAT GOD WILL ALLOW A LITERAL, PHYSICAL, MILLENNIAL TEMPLE TO BE BUILT IN JERUSALEM IN THE FUTURE.

The third Temple (which is presently being planned) is only a prelude. Christians do not need to be in favor of the third Temple. Rather, we are called to preach the Gospel to the Jews at this time, and many are being saved. Those Christians who may be getting excited about the third Temple need to go back and study Scripture more carefully. And those Christians who reject a literal Millennium on earth also need to go back and study the Scriptures.

 

[Jipsah]

Your Brother Buford is false teacher

Looks to me like DF is living proof that what he said is true. Take away that macro key that inserts "That's what the Scripture says, but what it really means is..." and your doctrine comes apart like a $2 watch <Laugh>

 

[Jipsah]

If Christians would carefully study the entire Bible and understand God's ENTIRE plan for both the Church and Israel, it would not be "how wonderful" concerning the third temple, which will be taken over by the Antichrist.

Better yet, if they studied Scripture carefully they'd find out that there's no Biblical reason to believe in a 3rd Temple at all. That's simple a Man Made Doctrine based on beginning with a conclusion and then "interpreting" Scripture to make it sound as though the Bible supports whatever that conclusion was. Bogus.

However, there will be a fourth Temple -- the one described in Ezekiel -- which is after the third temple has been desecrated and demolished.

Where livestock will be sacrificed for sins and trespasses just like they were Back In The Good Old Days of Temple Judaism. No more need for Christ's sacrifice, we got the Holy Slaughterhouse going again!

Read the letter to the Hebrews and see if that scenario holds water.

There can be no argument with that statement.

From a Christian standpoint, there can be no reasonable argument that the whole concept is an abomination.

Therefore the third temple is a logical necessity to fulfil all prophecies.

Orthodox Rabbinic Judaism is a continuation of the beliefs of the Pharisees, who rejected Christ.

But they'll be back in full effect in The Millennium after Temple Judaism version 2.0 supersedes the Church, won't they?

 

[Straightshot]

Emergent "church" psychobabble is taking the professing "church" to higher levels of gross apostasy

The Bible is irrelevant for the post modern world they scream .... a direct attack upon the Bible absolutes and the very Word of the Lord

In many different forms today and very deceptive

I see that we have some promoters on this forum .... this decadent movement can be found on the Internet and needs to be understood for what it is

 

[LastSeven]

and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

I believe it was a flood of soldiers over the wall.