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while I don't agree with the video, or what this guy represents, I have been chewing on your statement about the Kundalini spirit for a bit. The problem I have with this is, satan can only imitate. SO if there is something to imitate, has to be that God's presence manifests in different ways in people. I watched several videos now on this kundailni spirit, and there are alot of differences. I wouldn't be so quick to put a true manifestation of God into the same league as what satan is imitating.This is just flat out mocking God and His Holy Spirit. And things like this are becoming so common in so many churches-I've gone to many churches that have weird manifestations happen, but nothing like this guy. He's operating strictly in the flesh! I've been reading a lot about "other spirits" and "Kundalini" and praying for discernment, because we sure need it in these end times.
Blueberrymuffin09 said:while I don't agree with the video, or what this guy represents, I have been chewing on your statement about the Kundalini spirit for a bit. The problem I have with this is, satan can only imitate. SO if there is something to imitate, has to be that God's presence manifests in different ways in people. I watched several videos now on this kundailni spirit, and there are alot of differences. I wouldn't be so quick to put a true manifestation of God into the same league as what satan is imitating.
Kudalini spirit is make believe superstitious doctrine that creates a false sense of security by making something they don't understand into a "demonic" experience to justify their lack of experience and itchy ears. Completely immature. No one has even addressed the Biblical teaching this man preaches. The video is cut out of context by another heretic hunter who clearly found a new gospel, and we want to believe him because he satisfies your lack of understanding of what Crowder is teaching on? Crowder there is giving testimony, by product, of the faith. You want to magnify your own and try to justify it Biblically? Just splitting hairs. Look deeper.
Blueberrymuffin09 said:the attack is because??
Wait what? Demons don't exist biblically? What do you mean?
Yitzchak said:I think that she meant the the specific kudalini demon is not spelled out in the Bible.
Yes and what of a bliss that is not spelled out Biblically, which technically it is. I'm confused why our minds obsess over demons before the possibility that our Lord is the originator of our pleasure? Some one even admitted that Satan is an imitator. You honestly think drunkenness was his idea? The joy of our Lord can be more than just a fuzzy feeling and a smile at times.
Yitzchak said:Both my wife and I separately discerned demon spirits on Dave Crowder within a minute of listening to him. There is no wild speculating or confusion on our part. But you can keep building that strawman if you like. It probably does fit some.
I didn't understand a single word that came out of that guys mouth, all I picked up from it was yoing, yoing, yoing, something about being drunk, fat angles, the flu and plates. 8 minutes and no scripture being mentioned? Folks, theology matters!!!
Here's what I thought about the guy in the video.
To the OP, if you want to watch a Charismatic that preaches a sound message I suggest following up with the works of these men:
Chuck Smith
Carter Conlon
You can find full sermons preached by them on youtube.
You discerned with your natural mind and eyes. The strawman argument is one built upon "my gift is greater than yours" when in fact its so easy to scream demons at something you don't understand. What I find interesting that in Christs day He was accused of the same thing because the religious of His day were not experiencing and walking in the same power.
It would seem to me, that you are more quick to believe in demons over the demonstration of God's power in a way that you two have never seen before.
How does your "discernment" stand in light that your quicker to believe in demons and a make believe kudalini spirit that has absolutely no biblical basis at all other than the fact that it tickled your itchy ears?
Please read this in light of pure simple logic and love. It is my desire for you to know God's love in such an intoxicating bliss. A peace that transcends all understanding, day in and day out.
Hard to address such issues without feeling attacked. I again bring up that because in the natural your mind did not agree with what you saw and yet none of brought up what Crowder actually believes. And if you do your research leave the biased efforts of the heretic hunters who have betrayed their first love for another gospel.
Never forget, people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. Very basic principle in assuming the best vs assuming the worst.
A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2]
A shtick (Yiddish: שטיק(or schtick) is a comic theme or gimmick. "Shtick" is derived from the Yiddish word shtik (שטיק , meaning "piece"; the closely related German word Stück has the same meaning. The English word "piece" itself is also sometimes used in a similar context. Another variant is "bits of business" or just "bits"; comic mannerisms such as Laurel and Hardy's fiddling with their ties, or one of them looking into the camera shaking his head while the other one would ramble on. A shtick can also refer to an adopted persona, usually for comedy performances, that is maintained consistently (though not necessarily exclusively) across the performer's career. In this usage, the recurring personalities adopted by Laurel and Hardy through all of their many comedy films (despite the fact that they often played characters with different names and professions) would qualify as their shtick. A comedian might maintain several different shticks of this sort, particularly if they appear in a variety show that encourages them to develop multiple characters, such as Saturday Night Live.
In common usage, the word shtick has also come to mean any talent, style, habit, or other eccentricity for which a person is particularly well-known, even if not intended for comedic purposes. For example, a person who is known locally for his or her ability to eat dozens of hot dogs quickly might say that it was their shtick.
High on Jesus? Guys, he's the son of God not a rolled up joint of marijuana.
Drunk on the Holy spirit? What kind of spirit are we talking about? Whisky?
Yitzchak said:I know. It seems like he took a bet from his friends on how gullible people can be and how far he can push it.
can I ask you show me where I said any of that? I happen to enjoy the Lord's presence, and yes, manifest. I don't believe EVERYTHING is from demons.Merely observations. It surprises me that people actually believe a make believe demon over a believer who enjoys a different level of joy in the Lord.
You are allowed to comment on what I think I see. Just disappointing that we assume the worst over the best and are more quickly to believe in a demon that doesn't even exist Biblically.
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