A short quiz about evolution!

[Jimmy D]

according to the indoctrination you've endured since childhood

Or as some of us call it.... edukaishon.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The problem with this is that you are asking creationists to lie in order to achieve a perfect score.

I'm not "asking" that. In fact, if anything, I'ld ask them to be honest about it.
It just so happens that it's the kind of test where it is incredibly easy to fake a perfect score.

And if you are a creationists that spends his days on here arguing against evolution, how bad would it look if you can't get a 7/7 on this kiddie test? Without accusing anyone in particular... it's not like creationists in general have a reputation of intellectual honesty or something....

So yes, I fully expect at least some to start cheating.

It's one of those times where you to have decide between answering according to the indoctrination you've endured since childhood or according to what is actually correct.

"correct" in this case would be "according to the theory".

Understanding a theory and accepting it as accurate, are two very different things.
So, whatever nonsense about "indoctrination" you wish to be spreading here, it's irrelevant to the test, since the test is about ones understanding of the theory - not about its accuracy.

Which means that getting answers wrong only exposes ignorance of the theory.
And as it has been said plenty of times.... It's extremely rare to encounter a creationist who actually has a firm grasp on what the theory actually says.

You can call it pride all you want, but it takes the same amount of pride to declare it's all accurate as well.

No, it doesn't.

No honest creationist should get a perfect score unless their goal was to see if they could have a bit of fun and try to mimic the thought process of an evolutionist.

No, that's not why.
If you have a basic understanding of evolution theory, you would not get a single question here wrong. Regardless of wheter or not you accept said theory.

It's like a pop-quize about the ancient greek god pantheon. Getting questions wrong only shows ignorance on greek mythology. Getting questions right, doesn't mean you believe in Zeus.

Tell me the truth. If someone were to post a creationists quiz on here and you answered honestly according to what you actually think, would you score a perfect score?

Probably not, but that's because there are about as many versions of creationism as there are christian denominations - if not more.

 

[SeventyOne]

I'm not "asking" that. In fact, if anything, I'ld ask them to be honest about it.
It just so happens that it's the kind of test where it is incredibly easy to fake a perfect score.

And if you are a creationists that spends his days on here arguing against evolution, how bad would it look if you can't get a 7/7 on this kiddie test? Without accusing anyone in particular... it's not like creationists in general have a reputation of intellectual honesty or something....

So yes, I fully expect at least some to start cheating.




"correct" in this case would be "according to the theory".

Understanding a theory and accepting it as accurate, are two very different things.
So, whatever nonsense about "indoctrination" you wish to be spreading here, it's irrelevant to the test, since the test is about ones understanding of the theory - not about its accuracy.

Which means that getting answers wrong only exposes ignorance of the theory.
And as it has been said plenty of times.... It's extremely rare to encounter a creationist who actually has a firm grasp on what the theory actually says.



No, it doesn't.



No, that's not why.
If you have a basic understanding of evolution theory, you would not get a single question here wrong. Regardless of wheter or not you accept said theory.

It's like a pop-quize about the ancient greek god pantheon. Getting questions wrong only shows ignorance on greek mythology. Getting questions right, doesn't mean you believe in Zeus.



Probably not, but that's because there are about as many versions of creationism as there are christian denominations - if not more.

You're asking them to be honest about it, then say in multiple ways it would look bad of they didn't get a perfect score? Awesome logic right there.

 

[DogmaHunter]

You're asking them to be honest about it, then say in multiple ways it would look bad of they didn't get a perfect score? Awesome logic right there.

Huh?

I don't get what you are saying at all.

Being honest would mean that if you get some questions wrong, that you don't lie about.
And yes, getting questions wrong on a kiddie test wouldn't look too good (in terms of ones level of knowledge on the basics of evolution theory).

These are two seperate things.
Where's the logic problem?

 

[SeventyOne]

Huh?

I don't get what you are saying at all.

Being honest would mean that if you get some questions wrong, that you don't lie about.
And yes, getting questions wrong on a kiddie test wouldn't look too good (in terms of ones level of knowledge on the basics of evolution theory).

These are two seperate things.
Where's the logic problem?

Did someone lie about it? And again, it's a kiddie test filled with inaccurate answers. So once again, are you wanting creationsts to answer honestly or answer with lies to get a perfect score?

I added a link to a quiz on Aesop's fables in my first response. How did you do on your knowledge concerning those stories?

 

[Ophiolite]

I'm surprised they continue to push the theory of evolution when it has been completely debunked by modern genetics and biochemistry.

That is a fascinating statement. If true, you will have no problem citing several examples from recent papers published in reputable journals.

Should you do so, I shall have no problem providing counter examples of recent papers published in reputable journals that confirm evolutionary theory, or make use of it in their study. Indeed, I'll undertake to supply 20 such examples for every one of yours. I suspect I could readily provide 1,000 examples for each of yours, but frankly do not have the time to spend to gather those.

Over to you. It's time, as they say colloquially, to put your money where your mouth is. (As an alternative you could simply concede that your statement was erroneous. That would greatly enhance your reputation.)

The fossil record does not support it as no intermediate fossils have ever been found,

This is either gross ignorance on your part, or a lie. The former is easily remedied by a proper study of the literature. The latter requires a different approach. Let me know if I can help you with the former.

and recent discovery of soft tissue in dinosaur bones as well as the presence of quantities of Carbon-14 prove that these dinosaurs lived only thousands of years ago, let alone millions of years.

Please provide a citation to the original research that supports the claim and confirms your interepretation of the evidence. (Articles in Creationist publications would be unacceptable. This is a serious forum.)

Time and again, evolution is demonstrated to be anything but scientific.

Utter nonsense. We have the research of tens of thousands of scientists (atheist, agnostic, Christian, Hindu, Taoist, Jew, etc) working in such diverse fields as palaeontology, genetics, embryology, ethology, zoology, microbiology, botany, etc providing detailed examples, mutiply validated, of micro-evolution and macro-evolution, all supported by the ancillary research of geologists, geochemists, biochemists, astronomers, geophysicists, statisiticians, etc.

But I'll play your game. Give me your very best example of one of the instances in which evolution has been demonstrated to be "anything but scientific". Here's your chance to convince the audience! Give it your very best shot. I can hardly wait.

In reality it is a philosophy based on naturalism, and it only exists because many people don't want to accept that God is behind the creation of all life, so they continue to cling to evolution with all its holes because they have nothing else to explain the existence of life without God.

I thought you Young Earth Creationists were repulsed by assumptions and guesses, yet here you are glibly assuming why I accept evolution and making childish guesses to account for my conclusions. If you want a serious discussion I am up for it. However, I am not up for giving credence to such drivel.

 

[sfs]

I'm surprised they continue to push the theory of evolution when it has been completely debunked by modern genetics [...]

Huh. That's certainly news to me, and I'm a geneticist. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you've neither written nor read a single scientific paper on evolution in your life. Where are you getting your information on this subject?

 

[pitabread]

I'm surprised they continue to push the theory of evolution when it has been completely debunked by modern genetics and biochemistry.

It hasn't. Anyone who told you the above has lied to you.

 

[USincognito]

Did someone lie about it? And again, it's a kiddie test filled with inaccurate answers. So once again, are you wanting creationsts to answer honestly or answer with lies to get a perfect score?

I added a link to a quiz on Aesop's fables in my first response. How did you do on your knowledge concerning those stories?

Aww, how cute. He's subtly trying to suggest that evolution is a fable.

 

[Halbhh]

Click the link to find out how much you understand about evolution on the BBC website. It's just a bit of fun to do and even though I know next to nowt about evolution compared to some posters on here I - ahem- scored 7 out of 7 !!!!

Quiz: Test your knowledge of evolution

I also signed up for the FREE course on Evolution run by the University of Bath which covers such topics as Macroevolution; Inheritance and Variation; Speciation; Natural Selection; Geological Time and Human Evolution. From what I read it sounds like it is a layman's introduction to evolution. It is genuinely open to those who are curious to learn about this subject - I myself was taught naff all about it when I was at school in the 70's so I'm hoping it will teach me a better understanding of this important topic. And like I keep telling my kids - you're never too old to learn!!

Anyway why not give the quiz a go?

Probably plenty of Christians can get 7/7 (and perhaps it only reflects whether someone likes science articles; the quiz seems really basic) -- here's a good thing to be aware of: about 1/2 of U.S. Christians see evolution as God's design in action (with or without extensive interventions).

 

[tas8831]

I'm surprised they continue to push the theory of evolution when it has been completely debunked by modern genetics and biochemistry.

Odd - I work in modern genetics/biology and did my graduate work on evolution, and I saw no debunking.

Surely, you can expand on your assertion and provide evidence, maybe start a new thread?

 

[Speedwell]

Did someone lie about it? And again, it's a kiddie test filled with inaccurate answers. So once again, are you wanting creationsts to answer honestly or answer with lies to get a perfect score?

I added a link to a quiz on Aesop's fables in my first response. How did you do on your knowledge concerning those stories?

Do you really not get the difference between understanding what the theory of evolution claims and accepting it as a valid theory?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I could have given the answers they wanted and got 7/7 but instead I answered truthfully and got 3/7.

Good news. I answered as I thought a creationist would and I got 3/7 too! I wonder if we got the same 3 right?

 

[sfs]

I got 6/7. Or rather, I think the BBC got 6/7 right. Humans are in fact descended from monkeys, for any reasonable definition of "monkey".

 

[DogmaHunter]

Did someone lie about it?

I don't know.

And again, it's a kiddie test filled with inaccurate answers.

It's a kiddie test, but not one with inaccurate answers.

So once again, are you wanting creationsts to answer honestly or answer with lies to get a perfect score?

Honestly. I thought I made that clear allready.

I added a link to a quiz on Aesop's fables in my first response. How did you do on your knowledge concerning those stories?

I have no idea who or what Aesop is.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Probably plenty of Christians can get 7/7 (and perhaps it only reflects whether someone likes science articles; the quiz seems really basic) -- here's a good thing to be aware of: about 1/2 of U.S. Christians see evolution as God's design in action (with or without extensive interventions).

Which is a depressingly and embarassingly low number, for a 21st century first world country.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Click the link to find out how much you understand about evolution on the BBC website. It's just a bit of fun to do and even though I know next to nowt about evolution compared to some posters on here I - ahem- scored 7 out of 7 !!!!

Quiz: Test your knowledge of evolution

I also signed up for the FREE course on Evolution run by the University of Bath which covers such topics as Macroevolution; Inheritance and Variation; Speciation; Natural Selection; Geological Time and Human Evolution. From what I read it sounds like it is a layman's introduction to evolution. It is genuinely open to those who are curious to learn about this subject - I myself was taught naff all about it when I was at school in the 70's so I'm hoping it will teach me a better understanding of this important topic. And like I keep telling my kids - you're never too old to learn!!

Anyway why not give the quiz a go?

WooHoo!!! 7 out of 7!!!

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

I took your quiz. You think creationists simply just don't understand evolution? We've all been indoctrinated with evolutionary concepts from birth, through all stages of schooling, in books, movies, TV shows, etc. We just reject it as complete nonsense.

I'd also like to reciprocate a bit and provide a link to a similar quiz:
Braingle: 'Aesop's Fables' Trivia Quiz

...so what you're saying is, creationists deliberately lie about what the theory of evolution is and says? I guess it'd be hard to complete a quiz like this given the obviousness of the outcome - either score 7/7 showing creationists know all about the theory of evolution, but lie about it to others, or (n<7)/7 because they don't understand it after all. Decisions, decisions...

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Which is a depressingly and embarassingly low number, for a 21st century first world country.

It gets even better if you're american, 1 in 4 of your countrymen think the sun goes around the earth...
1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says

 

[DogmaHunter]

It gets even better if you're american, 1 in 4 of your countrymen think the sun goes around the earth...
1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says

Dear lord.............................

 

[Speedwell]

I got 6/7. Or rather, I think the BBC got 6/7 right. Humans are in fact descended from monkeys, for any reasonable definition of "monkey".

That is one of the problems with these discussions: mixing popular and scientific usages of words. If you think that "monkey" is a generic term for any non-human primate then, yes, humans evolved from monkeys. But if you say that to someone who is familiar with the scientific use of the term he will think you are just goofy.