A Separation...

[tall73]

Well, congregation forums aren't really supposed to be battle fields.

Is this what it's become?

At times.

But then are you going to split the Anglican, Messianic, etc. forums?

This forum, like any, has gone through different periods. Sometimes there is fighting, and sometimes not as much.

 

[woobadooba]

technically I am not sure we need mods. Under the current system, unless it changes, members can see the reports anyway. We could copy the report to here and then weigh in as a group on whether there was a personal attack, which should be fairly objective, and then agree on a FSB on the third offense. Now the interesting part would be if they break the FSB and then we would need to involve someone in the staff chain.

As I understand it we currently have a lot of self-direction in our own forum.

Whether or not theistic evolution is allowed will still be part of the wiki discussion. So there is no need to discuss banning those outside of the 28 in order to accomplish what you are asking for, if the majority agree.

I think we still need mods, since they are able to keep track of reported posts better than we can.

As you can see, we aren't doing too well now without ACTIVE mods.

 

[Letalis]

At times.

But then are you going to split the Anglican, Messianic, etc. forums?

I'd let them decide that, as I'll let you decide whether to split up this forum.

 

[tall73]

I think we still need mods, since they are able to keep track of reported posts better than we can.

As you can see, we aren't doing too well now without ACTIVE mods.

Why can't we keep track?

Because we don't care to? No one has come forward to mod. The current mods don't seem to care.

We need to take responsibility for our own forums.

 

[woobadooba]

At times.

But then are you going to split the Anglican, Messianic, etc. forums?

This forum, like any, has gone through different periods. Sometimes there is fighting, and sometimes not as much.

But there are a few in here who seem to have a talent for getting people into fights.

Such people ought to be dealt with accordingly. Unfortunately, nothing is being done about it.

 

[woobadooba]

Why can't we keep track?

Because we don't care to? No one has come forward to mod. The current mods don't seem to care.

We need to take responsibility for our own forums.

I still think we should get JtbDad back in here.

 

[tall73]

I'd let them decide that, as I'll let you decide whether to split up this forum.

Then I guess I don't quite understand your involvement. Were we not already deciding? I realize you came in response to some communication from a member. How do you see your role here? Is it just to confirm that it is possible as the forum creation guy?

 

[tall73]

I still think we should get JtbDad back in here.

Unless he changed his mind he left CF entirely.

 

[NightEternal]

But there are a few in here who seem to have a talent for getting people into fights.

Such people ought to be dealt with accordingly. Unfortunately, nothing is being done about it.

That's it Woob, pass the buck. Never accept any responsibility for anything.

You just come out of this whole thing smelling like a fresh rose, don't you?

 

[woobadooba]

That's it Woob, pass the buck. Never accept any responsibility for anything.

You just come out of this whole thing smelling like a fresh rose, don't you?

I never said that I am not at fault. I have acted in ways that I should not have acted. I even admit that I went on a flaming spree just a few days ago, because my anger got the best of me. But this is not something that I do all of the time.

 

[honorthesabbath]

What I'd like to know is whether the differences between the two groups are so vast to warrant their own forums? Or perhaps an equally important question, is the tension so vast to warrant separate congregations?

I think the answer is YES to both.

The doctinal differences have caused the tension. We have two groups and a few sub-groups that are so strongly opposed, I don't see any chance of reconciliation.

 

[tall73]

Alright, so whether we have mods or do it ourselves, the issue is really personal attacks, is it not?

If we put specific guidelines for FSB's then we have a solution to the problem. Those who can't control personal comments take a break ...and then another...and another.

 

[woobadooba]

At this point the forum members will just have to decide what they want to do. The poll will be up for 12 days.

 

[tall73]

I think the answer is YES to both.

The doctinal differences have caused the tension. We have two groups and a few sub-groups that are so strongly opposed, I don't see any chance of reconciliation.

People in the churches I go to have doctrinal differences and don't break out into fights all that often.

So I don't accept that doctrinal differences mean there have to be fights.

 

[tall73]

Until you clarify what you mean by rules who can vote for that option?

Perhaps a clearer poll would be simply
Should we have separate progressive and traditional forums on CF?

Yes
No


Let's not put two issues in a poll.

My suggestion would be then to have you lock this poll as the op (a mod could do it fairly quickly) and word it to make the options plain.

 

[Letalis]

Then I guess I don't quite understand your involvement. Were we not already deciding? I realize you came in response to some communication from a member. How do you see your role here? Is it just to confirm that it is possible as the forum creation guy?

For the most part.

I don't really know much about what's going on to form much of an opinion either way. The regulars here would know more whether this is necessary or not.

 

[tall73]

For the most part.

I don't really know much about what's going on to form much of an opinion either way. The regulars here would know more whether this is necessary or not.

Fair enough

For those who don't know him I think Letalis is an objective guy.

 

[woobadooba]

People in the churches I go to have doctrinal differences and don't break out into fights all that often.

So I don't accept that doctrinal differences mean there have to be fights.

But do they spam the boards with posts that constantly speak of the SDA church in a negative manner?

Do they constantly complain about 3ABN, Danny and Linda Shelton?

Do they constantly refer to those that disagree with them as being intellectually inept?

 

[tall73]

But do they spam the boards with posts that constantly speak of the SDA church in a negative manner?

Do they constantly complain about 3ABN, Danny and Linda Shelton?

Do they constantly refer to those that disagree with them as being intellectually inept?

We don't have boards, some complain about Danny and some don't, I haven't heard the inept comment too often.

The point is they make things work despite their differences.

 

[tall73]

Quote--me:

Until you clarify what you mean by rules who can vote for that option?

Perhaps a clearer poll would be simply
Should we have separate progressive and traditional forums on CF?

Yes
No


Let's not put two issues in a poll.

My suggestion would be then to have you lock this poll as the op (a mod could do it fairly quickly) and word it to make the options plain.