A re-examination of nothing

[savedandhappy1]

This bes its speak. To not offend, do not point and comment and make an issue of it. It has not complained about how you write. If anything bes unclear simply request clarification and we will be happy to oblige.

its age and dwelling bes immaterial here and would only create unnecessary strife to divulge.

Then I won't bother to read your post, because I am not here to play games.

Boy, does the verse that says even the demons believe come to mind here?

 

[davedjy]

The verse says "Therefore also", which changes everything as I have shown from the Greek meanings many times.

For this cause (dia touto theos), where is the "also" in that specifically and at what verse and what translation? So it is your believe that a person gets turned over to complete spiritual ruin when they decide to be a gay or lesbian? Unfounded.

So which translation has God, who is all powerful and more than able to protect His word, kept 100% accurate in your opinion?

None are 100% accurate if I recall. God is all-powerful and more than able to keep all the starving children in Africa from famish, but do you see that happening? I don't know why you think that just because a translation exists in the Bible, it must be 100% accurate and because God is all-powerful. Do you have any proof that any of these translators were appointed by God to do so?.

So now you are saying that even tho they profess to be Christians while denying the Bible and so many other things they really aren't?

A person that does not believe Jesus is God is not really a Christian, in my opinion.
Denying the Bible, I don't know, it depends on what they are denying, but that is a significant problem.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

God bes not the author of confusion, but of peace.

I agree, but which side is saying they can't figure out what 1corinthians 6:9 means?

 

[davedjy]

You have a lot to learn if you think that you can manipulate Scripture to make it say what you want.

1. Prove that the translators that translated the Bible were "appointed by God".

2. Prove that the given translation is the correct one.

After 1 and 2 are completed, let's have a dialog.

That's all.

 

[davedjy]

I agree, but which side is saying they can't figure out what 1corinthians 6:9 means?

How humorous of you to even ask that.

The given translation supports the anti-gay side, so why would they even dare to question it?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Correct. Homosexuals do not do that. Hence, they are walking in the flesh and not in the power of the Holy Spirit.

Point being, your solution seems to be to demand they do otherwise. No man can. It bes supernatural. You cannot demand that human beings perform for themselves what only God Himself bes capable of doing as a "solution". IF they or anyone else could simply decide to do that, there would be no need for either a saviour OR a holy Spirit.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Then I won't bother to read your post, because I am not here to play games.

"playing games" bes exactly what you bes doing when you bes trifling in this manner and demanding others tailor themselves to your fitting before you will take their presence seriously. "playing games" bes exactly what you bes doing when you have to derail an entire conversation to do some stupid little song and dance fuss routine over not liking how someone else words their posts -- as if that even freaking matters.

Boy, does the verse even the demons believe come to mind here?

Not to those who "play games" and then end them by hurling that accusation at others. what gives with that mentality anyway. Does anyone imagine it produces anything of value or solves anything productively? Um, NO....

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I agree, but which side is saying they can't figure out what 1corinthians 6:9 means?

The side that relies upon mistranslating words like malakoi and arsenokoites to pretend they have meanings that historically they did not have. ""
And for the record, Moriah bes on no one's "side" in that. Moriah bes on the "side" of accurately rendering the koine Greek. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Point being, your solution seems to be to demand they do otherwise. No man can. It bes supernatural. You cannot demand that human beings perform for themselves what only God Himself bes capable of doing as a "solution". IF they or anyone else could simply decide to do that, there would be no need for either a saviour OR a holy Spirit.

You don't know what you are talking about. I haven't any solution! God has made a solution available to everyone for freedom from anything and everything that binds! Even you.

Homosexuality is a perversion. Jesus Christ expects His children to walk in His righteousness and not the corrupt flesh. We can't change on our own! He alone gives the power to overcome it by His HOLY SPIRIT. JESUS CHRIST alone enables us to walk in the supernatural!

 

[EnemyPartyII]

You have a lot to learn if you think that you can manipulate Scripture to make it say what you want. God has a say in that in the end.

Homosexuals who are actively engaging in their perversion rather than maintaining celibacy before the Lord have NO credibility with the Body of Christ as long as they continue to argue for their perverse lifestyles.

Biblical literalists who don't sell all their posessions to follow Christ have no credibility either

 

[EnemyPartyII]

You don't know what you are talking about. I haven't any solution! God has made a solution available to everyone for freedom from anything and everything that binds! Even you.

Homosexuality is a perversion. Jesus Christ expects His children to walk in His righteousness and not the corrupt flesh. We can't change on our own! He alone gives the power to overcome it by His HOLY SPIRIT. JESUS CHRIST alone enables us to walk in the supernatural!

Homosexuality is not a perversion.

denying one's nature (i.e. the way God made you) THAT is a perversion

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

Homosexuality is not a perversion.

denying one's nature (i.e. the way God made you) THAT is a perversion

The way we were born might not always be right- which is why we have eyeglasses, medication, post-natal surgeries, etc

 

[EnemyPartyII]

The way we were born might not always be right- which is why we have eyeglasses, medication, post-natal surgeries, etc

Indeed. However, the artefacts you cite correct identifiable faults.

Trying to change one's inherent sexuality is not correcting any identifiable fault.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I haven't any solution! God has made a solution available to everyone for freedom from anything and everything that binds! Even you.

Homosexuality is a perversion. Jesus Christ expects His children to walk in His righteousness and not the corrupt flesh. We can't change on our own! He alone gives the power to overcome it by His HOLY SPIRIT. JESUS CHRIST alone enables us to walk in the supernatural!

Right, but you seem to think it bes helpful to ppls somehow for you to be mean or cruel or scathing or horrid in how you talksy them if they have not yet experienced everything they hope to experience when they turn to JC. Why you cannot grasp how painful that bes to be trapped in that twilight zone of discrepancy, and why you think treating them nasty rather than with kindness and compassion will even remotely be acceptable let alone actually help, bes beyond this one.

 

[Ohioprof]

Indeed. However, the artefacts you cite correct identifiable faults.

Trying to change one's inherent sexuality is not correcting any identifiable fault.

Happy birthday!

 

[MercyBurst]

Homosexuality is not a perversion.

I think sodomy is gross for heteros to be doing.

denying one's nature (i.e. the way God made you) THAT is a perversion

My God didn't make me that way. And I do have sexual desire, as I remained celibate for many many years just like God asked in the Bible. I didn't "partner up" just because I couldn't get married, and seriously considered remaining single for the rest of my life.

So tell me what makes you better than me. Loving monogamous relationships are nothing more than an excuse to have gay-sex together without any hope of ever having kids. It's sexual idolatry pure and simple just like abortion.

 

[MercyBurst]

Right, but you seem to think it bes helpful to ppls somehow for you to be mean or cruel or scathing or horrid in how you talksy them if they have not yet experienced everything they hope to experience when they turn to JC. Why you cannot grasp how painful that bes to be trapped in that twilight zone of discrepancy, and why you think treating them nasty rather than with kindness and compassion will even remotely be acceptable let alone actually help, bes beyond this one.

Your CF profile says you come from the abyss, and the horrid halloween suit gives me the creeps.

Current Location:
In the Abyss

Of all the hundreds of thousands of CF members you are the only one that comes from there. Why would anybody trust what you have to say for Jesus Christ?

Why can't you say him by name instead of using initials? Your "wind" isn't "conquering" anyone but yourself.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Your CF profile says you come from the abyss, and the horrid halloween suit gives me the creeps.

Good morning, MercyBurst. How bes you this fine Sunday morning?

Of all the hundreds of thousands of CF members you are the only one that comes from there. Why would anybody trust what you have to say for Jesus Christ?

Bes this a sincere question? Do you truly seek an answer?

Why can't you say him by name instead of using initials?

Bes this a sincere question? Do you truly seek an answer?

 

[MercyBurst]

Good morning, MercyBurst. How bes you this fine Sunday morning?


Bes this a sincere question? Do you truly seek an answer?


Bes this a sincere question? Do you truly seek an answer?

Probably not.

What does "bes" mean and why do you use it?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I think sodomy is gross for heteros to be doing.



My God didn't make me that way. And I do have sexual desire, as I remained celibate for many many years just like God asked in the Bible. I didn't "partner up" just because I couldn't get married, and seriously considered remaining single for the rest of my life.

So tell me what makes you better than me. Loving monogamous relationships are nothing more than an excuse to have gay-sex together without any hope of ever having kids. It's sexual idolatry pure and simple just like abortion.

I don't believe that procreation is the ONLY reason for people to have an intimate relationship.