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So, how does the Illuminati and the New World Order fit into this package?
** forgot to ask about the reptilians...
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So, how does the Illuminati and the New World Order fit into this package?
** forgot to ask about the reptilians...
Do you want your grandchildren to have an education that will allow them to pursue a carreer in the biological sciences? If you do, then you will want them to learn about the theory of evolution.
If you don't want them to have a career in the sciences, then perhaps you could homeschool them and teach them the same anti-science rhetoric that you have been posting here.
Your choice.
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Split Rock
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How about theistic evolutionists? Or are they "Godless Darwinists" too?
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There are actually mainstream Christian denominations that have published statements that they see no issue with the theory of evolution.
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Let's hear it for the Independent Baptists!
(I was raised an American Baptist ... but converted to Independent.)
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Let's hear it for the Independent Baptists!
(I was raised an American Baptist ... but converted to Independent.)
God bless them.
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justlookinla
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I have no problem with evolution, as I've pointed out many times. I have problems with the inherently atheistic creationist view of Darwinism.
It's not anti-science, it's anti-atheist creationism.
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As early as 1969.
Evolution Statement — Theology and Worship — Mission and Ministry — Presbyterian Mission Agency
Statements from Religious Organizations | NCSE
Archbishop of Canterbury backs evolution ⢠The Register
Pope John Paul II, Speech to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, October 23, 1996
What do Christians REALLY Believe about Evolution? | NCSE
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justlookinla
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I don't do links. Take the first one, post their position and let me examine it. Not just part, not just quote mining, but their entire position concerning evolution and their viewpoint of God being involved in the process or not.
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What Christian denominations acknowledge evolution
Catholic Church
The Catholic Church has now reacted favourably to evolution: Pope Pius XII stated in his encyclical Humani Generis (1950) that there was no opposition between evolution and the doctrine of the faith and that he considered the doctrine of "evolutionism" a serious hypothesis, worthy of investigation and in-depth study equal to that of the opposing hypothesis; Pope John Paul II, in an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (1996), said that new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis; Pope Benedict has refused to endorse "intelligent design" theories, instead backing "theistic evolution" which considers that God created life through evolution with no clash between religion and science.
Episcopal Church
The Episcopal Church has said that the theory of evolution does not conflict with Christian faith. In 2006, the General Convention affirmed, via Resolution A129, that God is creator and added that "the theory of evolution provides a fruitful and unifying scientific explanation for the emergence of life on earth, that many theological interpretations of origins can readily embrace an evolutionary outlook, and that an acceptance of evolution is entirely compatible with an authentic and living Christian faith."
Church of England
The Church of England is considering the possibility of apologising posthumously to Darwin, for its earlier condemnation of his theory
United Methodist Church
General Conference, the only entity that speaks for the United Methodist Church, makes these three statements regarding evolution:
"We find that science's descriptions of cosmological, geological, and biological evolution are not in conflict with theology." (¶ 160. F. The Book of Discipline 2008)
"The General Conference of The United Methodist Church goes on record as opposing the introduction of any faith-based theories such as Creationism or Intelligent Design into the science curriculum of our public schools." (Resolution 5052 of The Book of Resolutions 2008)
"[The United Methodist Church] endorses The Clergy Letter Project and its reconciliatory programs between religion and science, and urges United Methodist clergy participation." (From resolution 1027 of The Book of Resolutions 2008)
The theological justification is: "We find that as science expands human understanding of the natural world, our understanding of the mysteries of God's creation and word are enhanced." (¶ 160. F. The Book of Discipline 2008)
Presbyterian Church
The Presbyterian Church (USA) Office of Theology and Worship, 1969 GA-approved theological statement on the subject, evolution and the Bible, stated, "Neither Scripture, our Confession of Faith, nor our Catechisms, teach the Creation of man by the direct and immediate acts of God so as to exclude the possibility of evolution as a scientific theory." However, it appears that the Southern Presbyterians dissent from this view.
National Council of Churches USA
A National Council of Churches USA committee has released a resource on the teaching of evolution in public school science classes, "to assist people of faith who experience no conflict between science and religion as they consider the issues around the teaching of evolution." Members of the NCC's Committee on Public Education and Literacy represent: the Christian Church, Disciples of Christ; the Christian Methodist Episcopal Church; the Episcopal Church; the Presbyterian Church (USA); the Progressive National Baptist Convention; the United Church of Christ Justice & Witness Ministries; the United Methodist Church General Board of Church and Society; and the United Methodist Women.
The Church of the Nazarene
The Church of the Nazarene, an evangelical Christian denomination, sees "knowledge acquired by science and human inquiry equal to that acquired by divine revelation."
You know Just, if you were interested in the reality of the world around you and not huddled inside your own private conceptual cocoon, this stuff is real easy to look up. The hard part I suspect is that you would have to be willing to learn about that outside world.
It really is rather nice out here. You might consider giving it a try.
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Easy enough to do.
What Do Most Christians Really Believe About Evolution? | The BioLogos Forum
What Christian denominations acknowledge evolution
Catholic Church
The Catholic Church has now reacted favourably to evolution: Pope Pius XII stated in his encyclical Humani Generis (1950) that there was no opposition between evolution and the doctrine of the faith and that he considered the doctrine of "evolutionism" a serious hypothesis, worthy of investigation and in-depth study equal to that of the opposing hypothesis; Pope John Paul II, in an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (1996), said that new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis; Pope Benedict has refused to endorse "intelligent design" theories, instead backing "theistic evolution" which considers that God created life through evolution with no clash between religion and science.
Episcopal Church
The Episcopal Church has said that the theory of evolution does not conflict with Christian faith. In 2006, the General Convention affirmed, via Resolution A129, that God is creator and added that "the theory of evolution provides a fruitful and unifying scientific explanation for the emergence of life on earth, that many theological interpretations of origins can readily embrace an evolutionary outlook, and that an acceptance of evolution is entirely compatible with an authentic and living Christian faith."
Church of England
The Church of England is considering the possibility of apologising posthumously to Darwin, for its earlier condemnation of his theory
United Methodist Church
General Conference, the only entity that speaks for the United Methodist Church, makes these three statements regarding evolution:
"We find that science's descriptions of cosmological, geological, and biological evolution are not in conflict with theology." (¶ 160. F. The Book of Discipline 2008)
"The General Conference of The United Methodist Church goes on record as opposing the introduction of any faith-based theories such as Creationism or Intelligent Design into the science curriculum of our public schools." (Resolution 5052 of The Book of Resolutions 2008)
"[The United Methodist Church] endorses The Clergy Letter Project and its reconciliatory programs between religion and science, and urges United Methodist clergy participation." (From resolution 1027 of The Book of Resolutions 2008)
The theological justification is: "We find that as science expands human understanding of the natural world, our understanding of the mysteries of God's creation and word are enhanced." (¶ 160. F. The Book of Discipline 2008)
Presbyterian Church
The Presbyterian Church (USA) Office of Theology and Worship, 1969 GA-approved theological statement on the subject, evolution and the Bible, stated, "Neither Scripture, our Confession of Faith, nor our Catechisms, teach the Creation of man by the direct and immediate acts of God so as to exclude the possibility of evolution as a scientific theory." However, it appears that the Southern Presbyterians dissent from this view.
National Council of Churches USA
A National Council of Churches USA committee has released a resource on the teaching of evolution in public school science classes, "to assist people of faith who experience no conflict between science and religion as they consider the issues around the teaching of evolution." Members of the NCC's Committee on Public Education and Literacy represent: the Christian Church, Disciples of Christ; the Christian Methodist Episcopal Church; the Episcopal Church; the Presbyterian Church (USA); the Progressive National Baptist Convention; the United Church of Christ Justice & Witness Ministries; the United Methodist Church General Board of Church and Society; and the United Methodist Women.
The Church of the Nazarene
The Church of the Nazarene, an evangelical Christian denomination, sees "knowledge acquired by science and human inquiry equal to that acquired by divine revelation."
You know Just, if you were interested in the reality of the world around you and not huddled inside your own private conceptual cocoon, this stuff is real easy to look up. The hard part I suspect is that you would have to be willing to learn about that outside world.
It really is rather nice out here. You might consider giving it a try.
Dizredux
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Follow the first link. Here it is again:
Evolution Statement — Theology and Worship — Mission and Ministry — Presbyterian Mission Agency
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justlookinla
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This is a prime example of misinformation. A prime example of presenting a position by not giving the entire position. Now, a little more about the Catholic Church's position on evolution. Notice especially, it is rejecting the view of Darwinist (atheistic) creationism in their view......
The Catholic Church holds no official position on the theory of creation or evolution, leaving the specifics of either theistic evolution or literal creationism to the individual within certain parameters established by the Church. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, any believer may accept either literal or special creation within the period of an actual six day, twenty-four hour period, or they may accept the belief that the earth evolved over time under the guidance of God. All Catholics must accept that God initiated and continued the process of his evolutionary creation, that Adam and Eve were real people (the Church also rejects "Polygenism," the idea that along with Adam and Eve there existed other humans from which modern humans are descended[3]), and that all humans, whether specially created or evolved, have and have always had specially created souls for each individual.
Any questions?
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justlookinla
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Post their position where they deny, reject, leave out, discard God being involved in the creation of humanity. Then compare it with the inherently atheistic Darwinist creationist view.
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cre·a·tion·ism
noun \-shə-ˌni-zəm\
: the belief that God created all things out of nothing as described in the Bible and that therefore the theory of evolution is incorrect
Creationism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Please learn how to use English.
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I do not wish to be accused of not providing all the information. Follow the link. It is an official statement by the Presbyterian Church USA concerning evolution. Your refusal to do so only demonstrates you unwillingness to verify "original sources".
Yes, I can easily C/P the whole thing. Then you will ask what I left out. I don't play games. See it for yourself.
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