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I seem to remember some advice regarding precious objects and a certain class of farm animals.Dominicans dont give up
we trust God and stay cool
CRIB
then truth is not being sought, just confirmation of the status quo.... and that's cool, I have no problem with that, just admit it for what it is.....Humans might write false information, but if it is included in the Bible... than it is included with God's intention.
We don't need to be asking ourselves if a section is false or not.
JM
then truth is not being sought, just confirmation of the status quo.... and that's cool, I have no problem with that, just admit it for what it is.....
then truth is not being sought, just confirmation of the status quo.... and that's cool, I have no problem with that, just admit it for what it is.....
Is there anything in life that was not intended by God. If so, should we even live?Are there statements contained in Scripture that weren't intended by God? If so, should we even read the Scriptures?
I cannot answer the question as posed because there are 3 variables that have to be defined.... the bible as an authoritative source for whom? confirming truth through emotion and feelings means what? are you suggesting that there are only two ways in which truth can be confirmed?Stormy what is the difference in :
1) discovering and confirming moral truth through the bible as an authoritative source,
and
2) confirming truth through emotion and feelings?
AT
Is there anything in life that was not intended by God.
Do you see the problem?
What humans believe is not intended by God
cannot trump the fact that God made man with full knowledge of what man is capable of doing.
BFA, it is my belief that the bible is a compilation of how men perceived God. I do not believe that God hovered over those who wrote their perceptions to ensure that everything they wrote was correct. Nor do I believe that God was giving input at the committee meeting when the sources were edited, cobbled together, configured and the end result was "the bible." So we can read the stories in the bible of how these people interacted with God and take from that anything that might be useful.Are there statements contained in Scripture that weren't intended by God? If so, should we even read the Scriptures? If we should read the Scriptures, how can we determine whether the particular passage we are reading at a given moment was intended by God, or if it is contrary to God's intentions?
BFA
Strange you should ask. He made it all. How can man have a capability that is a surprise to Him?How do you know this to be true?cannot trump the fact that God made man with full knowledge of what man is capable of doing.
BFA
I cannot answer the question as posed because there are 3 variables that have to be defined.... the bible as an authoritative source for whom? confirming truth through emotion and feelings means what? are you suggesting that there are only two ways in which truth can be confirmed?
BFA, it is my belief that the bible is a compilation of how men perceived God. I do not believe that God hovered over those who wrote their perceptions to ensure that everything they wrote was correct. Nor do I believe that God was giving input at the committee meeting when the sources were edited, cobbled together, configured and the end result was "the bible." So we can read the stories in the bible of how these people interacted with God and take from that anything that might be useful.
I do not think the bible should be used as a guidebook for one's life, though there are many who believe that they should.... but that's me....
BFA, it is my belief that the bible is a compilation of how men perceived God. I do not believe that God hovered over those who wrote their perceptions to ensure that everything they wrote was correct. Nor do I believe that God was giving input at the committee meeting when the sources were edited, cobbled together, configured and the end result was "the bible." So we can read the stories in the bible of how these people interacted with God and take from that anything that might be useful.
I do not think the bible should be used as a guidebook for one's life, though there are many who believe that they should.... but that's me....
He made it all.
Is there anything in life that was not intended by God. If so, should we even live?
Do you see the problem? What humans believe is not intended by God cannot trump the fact that God made man with full knowledge of what man is capable of doing. There is nothing man has done that God did not intend.
If a christian believes the bible is sufficient then they will act accordingly.....1) If a Christian finds the bible to be sufficient and the authoratative source for truth.
2) Finding certain actions and situations to be righteous and morally true through ones subjective feelings and emotions, rather than an objective authritative source.
3)No, but that confirmation should not be self evident.
AT
you are correct, there are things in the bible that are incorrect. The process is simple, if the bible narrative states that something happened, yet there is no record anywhere, no evidence no nothing, then that narrative is incorrect. Likewise if people who have degrees in biblical languages and have been dissecting/examining the text and point out inclusions, differences in styles, etc, then to me it provides enough evidence to suggest that something other than divine illumination has been at work...In another thread, I think I understood you to say that you believe that man was created by God, but that you do not believe that God adopted or will adopt people (because such people are already his). If I've correctly understood you, then it seems that you have concluded that certain Scriptures are accurate and others are inaccurate. Is this a fair statement? If so, what is the process that you went through to make that determination?
Upon what basis do you believe that there is a God? By faith? Are there any things that you believe are "authoritative?"
BFA
you are correct, there are things in the bible that are incorrect. The process is simple, if the bible narrative states that something happened, yet there is no record anywhere, no evidence no nothing, then that narrative is incorrect. Likewise if people who have degrees in biblical languages and have been dissecting/examining the text and point out inclusions, differences in styles, etc, then to me it provides enough evidence to suggest that something other than divine illumination has been at work...
How do I know that there is a God? By looking around and realizing that all of this did not just happen, that someone had to create the world we see and the things that inhabit that world.
Authoritative in what sense? Something that we must absolutely adhere to?
SAY WHAT!!!!?????I seem to remember some advice regarding precious objects and a certain class of farm animals.
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