A question for Old Earth Creationists

[DerelictJunction]

Dear SZ, I prefer the KJV since it allows access to the original words written.

Please explain what you mean by "access to the original words written".

 

[bhsmte]

Please explain what you mean by "access to the original words written".

This should be good.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dear SZ, I prefer the KJV since it allows access to the original words written. I have already shown that ONLY God could have possibly written Genesis and NO one, including yourself, has been able to refute me. Want to try again? I doubt it since you've already shown that you are a better runner than a refuter. Good to see you again and God Bless you, old buddy, old pal.

In Love,
Aman

No you haven't.

You may think you have shown that but you never did any such thing. You only convinced yourself. You have not convinced anyone else. There is no reason at all that the original source of the Bible was man and not God and the many errors in it support that idea.

And how does the KJV allow any more access to the "original words" than any other version? None of the books of the Bible were written in English of any form.

 

[Queller]

Dear Queller, Hey there old buddy, old pal. Where have you been hiding? I suspect your confusion is caused by that Altered verson of Scripture you insist on believing. Keep studying and perhaps some day, you might be able to refute me Scripturally, but I doubt it. Good to see you again, and next time don't be such a stranger. It's good to see you again. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Until you explain how you know that 'elohiym means the Holy Trinity but Yĕhovah 'elohiym means Jesus only, there is nothing left to refute.

 

[Queller]

Dear SZ, I prefer the KJV since it allows access to the original words written.

Umm, I hate to tell you this but the original words were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek, not English. You haven't fallen into the trap that AV has, have you?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Umm, I hate to tell you this but the original words were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek, not English. You haven't fallen into the trap that AV has, have you?

No, he is aware of the original languages. He has exercised this.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Umm, I hate to tell you this but the original words were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek, not English. You haven't fallen into the trap that AV has, have you?

But didn't you know that English is the one universal language in the world?

Everyone on Earth can understand English providing you speak it loudly enough, slowly enough and preferably with a southern U.S. accent.

 

[AV1611VET]

And how does the KJV allow any more access to the "original words" than any other version? None of the books of the Bible were written in English of any form.

I think I can answer this one.

Strong's Concordance is patterned after the King James Bible.

If, for example, you want to know what the Hebrew word for "cloud" is, you first look up "cloud" in the KJB.

 

[AV1611VET]

Until you explain how you know that 'elohiym means the Holy Trinity but Yĕhovah 'elohiym means Jesus only, there is nothing left to refute.

I'll take this one too.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Whenever you see "God" in the Bible, with one exception, it is always "Elohim" -- a plural word that equates to the Trinity.

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Whenever you see LORD God in the Bible, it is always JEHOVAH Elohim, or a reference to Jesus Christ.

(Actually JEHOVAH is God the Father, but by way of Trinitarian logic, He is also equated with Jesus Christ.)

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think I can answer this one.

Strong's Concordance is patterned after the King James Bible.

If, for example, you want to know what the Hebrew word for "cloud" is, you first look up "cloud" in the KJB.

All Strong's Concordance does is to show how the KJV was translated. That does not answer the question. Strong's Concordance allows a tie to the original words, the KJV does not.

 

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[Queller]

I'll take this one too.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Whenever you see "God" in the Bible, with one exception, it is always "Elohim" -- a plural word that equates to the Trinity.

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Whenever you see LORD God in the Bible, it is always JEHOVAH Elohim, or a reference to Jesus Christ.

(Actually JEHOVAH is God the Father, but by way of Trinitarian logic, He is also equated with Jesus Christ.)

Then Yĕhovah 'elohiym isn't a reference to Jesus Christ alone, as Aman777 claims, is it? Thank you.

 

[Aman777]

Please explain what you mean by "access to the original words written".

Dear DerelictJunction, The KJV allows access to the original Hebrew and Greek Words through Strong's Concordance. I have found that some versions use the SAME words written in the KJV to explain their more modern interpretations. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

No you haven't.

You may think you have shown that but you never did any such thing. You only convinced yourself. You have not convinced anyone else. There is no reason at all that the original source of the Bible was man and not God and the many errors in it support that idea.

And how does the KJV allow any more access to the "original words" than any other version? None of the books of the Bible were written in English of any form.

Dear SZ, IF you could have refuted me, you would have done it long ago, but you have NOT, even though you have tried, and failed miserably many times. I have challenged Evols to refute me Scripturally, Scientifically, or Historically. I await their futile challenges eagerly. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[PsychoSarah]

Dear SZ, IF you could have refuted me, you would have done it long ago, but you have NOT, even though you have tried, and failed miserably many times. I have challenged Evols to refute me Scripturally, Scientifically, or Historically. I await their futile challenges eagerly. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Still waiting on the scriptural support that the sons of god were prehistoric peoples.

 

[Aman777]

Until you explain how you know that 'elohiym means the Holy Trinity but Yĕhovah 'elohiym means Jesus only, there is nothing left to refute.

Dear Queller, It's easy. Elohim is a Plural word (Trinity=3) and YHWH (Jesus=1) is a Singular word, in Hebrew. Please don't try to show that with your paraphrased version of Scripture, since it will only confuse the issue. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[PsychoSarah]

I thought YHWH described the "Father" part of the holy trinity?

 

[Aman777]

But didn't you know that English is the one universal language in the world?

Everyone on Earth can understand English providing you speak it loudly enough, slowly enough and preferably with a southern U.S. accent.

Dear SZ, Who told you that...George Bush? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[PsychoSarah]

Dear SZ, Who told you that...George Bush? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

You know he was being sarcastic

 

[Queller]

Dear Queller, It's easy. Elohim is a Plural word (Trinity=3) and YHWH (Jesus=1) is a Singular word, in Hebrew. Please don't try to show that with your paraphrased version of Scripture, since it will only confuse the issue. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

YHWH is not Jesus but God the Father. Even AV understands that.

I haven't paraphrased any scripture. Yĕhovah 'elohiym is straight out of Strong's