A question for flat earth people

[JacksBratt]

I'm sorry, but "as far as you're concerned" doesn't discredit what someone says, whether you use their entire statement, or simply use an edited version that fits your own view of what you wish he had said.

You're right.. I guess I should have said.. this video proves nothing.. because I think the guy is going senile..

Of course, remember.. I posted it, not to say I believe what he says, or anything else that you want to draw from it...

I was posting it to prove how fast something goes viral....

Will I have to explain this to you guys again? It was not the content proper.. it was to prove how fast that a quote about this stuff is pasted all over the net.

Your responses have been classic, by the way... Thanks

 

[JacksBratt]

You either agree with the assertion that he was saying that we never went to the moon or you don't. Do you believe he said that we never went to the moon?

Again.. sheesh.. let me post why I used this video....
The guy in the video... would, and I think you will agree.. been quoted over and over and over by those on the internet, who are flat earthers.. right?

Just like the video of Buzz Aldren, saying that they never went to the moon, is viral right now.

You do realize that you just keep reinforcing my point... right?

Show me, in my post, in blue above, where I gave any opinion on the truth or misrepresentation of this mans words.... in the posted video..

SO.. please don't deflect to something that wasn't intended...

That is called "spin"

 

[JacksBratt]

....and then start believing that the government has been covering up that the earth is flat and that there's a conspiracy around every corner.

Pretty sure that this would have come long before the accepting of Christ...

Do you not think that, given the order of events, that they would probably get to your point right after the "accepting that the earth is flat" step?

Please pay attention to what is written and what you are comprehending from it.. and how it is applied.

 

[JacksBratt]

I don't know which FE believer it was here, but someone had mentioned that Buzz Aldrin not giving into this guy's demands was somehow evidence that Aldrin really never walked on the moon.

Well, I think that this is what the guy is trying to prove..... but I also think that it is futile and the consequences of one of these astronauts ever admitting it would be worse than death.

And, for the record.... this should make you giggle.. as it is something that you have been prying at... all the while it is something that, if you were paying attention, you would already know that I am not shy about stating........

We...... never....... went to.... or... landed... on the moon.

But... that's not what this thread's OP was concerning..... was it?

 

[Aldebaran]

Again.. sheesh.. let me post why I used this video....
The guy in the video... would, and I think you will agree.. been quoted over and over and over by those on the internet, who are flat earthers.. right?

Just like the video of Buzz Aldren, saying that they never went to the moon, is viral right now.

You do realize that you just keep reinforcing my point... right?

Show me, in my post, in blue above, where I gave any opinion on the truth or misrepresentation of this mans words.... in the posted video..

SO.. please don't deflect to something that wasn't intended...

That is called "spin"

Quit dancing around the question and simply answer it. You quoted my post which contained a question and instead of answering it, you start talking about why you posted a video, telling me not to deflect, and referring to it as "spin". So again, I ask:

You either agree with the assertion that he was saying that we never went to the moon or you don't. Do you believe he said that we never went to the moon?

 

[JacksBratt]

Great video.
So basically the idea now is that every pilot of a U2 plane is in on the secret of the flat earth, because to them it would be obviously true that the earth is flat. So they're straight up in on it.

But then for everyone else who has had the privilege of flying up that high, people such as the Mythbusters and James May from Top Gear, for these people, they come to realize when they are up that unlike everything they've been told, they actually can't see the horizon. However, out of fear being thought crazy, they decide to lie. I mean come on, the explanations just get more ridiculous with each try.

I'm using basic logic, which is something that people who question the shape of the earth actually seem to lack, even though they're the ones that claiming they alone have it.

Let's say that Space X launches a Space Tourism program where they can fly up about a dozen people to 100,000 or whatever height. After they do this and land, all dozen people come out and exclaim about how amazing the curvature of the earth is.

Now, if you're a proponent of the Flat Earth Theory, then clearly you know that something fishy is going on, because you're right and the earth is flat. Thus, using what I think is common sense, there are probably two possible reasons that the people came out declaring they have seen the curvature of the earth:

1) Space X is actually in on the trickery and they know as a company that the earth is flat, and they have built their entire space tourism platform on a lie, intending to deceive people and continue the hoax of a flat earth. Thus, Space X is guilty and the people are innocent.

2) The people are convinced to lie. In this case, Space X is still in on it, but now so are the people as well.

In other words, there probably isn't much that's going to prove it to a Flat Earth believer that the earth is round. In fact, I bet if they were to fly up themselves and see the curvature of the earth they would probably think that they were somehow being tricked. Conspiracy Theorists are often beyond reasonable thought..... as well.... this thread has demonstrated.

So, first off.... What is a U2 plane?

 

[Aldebaran]

Well, I think that this is what the guy is trying to prove..... but I also think that it is futile and the consequences of one of these astronauts ever admitting it would be worse than death.

If they're telling the truth about going to the moon, why would you ASSUME they would have a reason to say otherwise?

And, for the record.... this should make you giggle.. as it is something that you have been prying at... all the while it is something that, if you were paying attention, you would already know that I am not shy about stating........

We...... never....... went to.... or... landed... on the moon.

A mere assumption on your part with no proof provided.

But... that's not what this thread's OP was concerning..... was it?

That suddenly matters now?

 

[JacksBratt]

Quit dancing around the question and simply answer it. You quoted my post which contained a question and instead of answering it, you start talking about why you posted a video, telling me not to deflect, and referring to it as "spin". So again, I ask:

I'm not dancing... you have been misrepresenting the reason why I posted that video... it's sad, really.

 

[Aldebaran]

So, first off.... What is a U2 plane?

That's one of those questions that a bit of research can answer:

 

[A_Thinker]

We...... never....... went to.... or... landed... on the moon.

Glad to know your stance on this ...

You ...... never....... went to.... or... landed... on the moon.

 

[Aldebaran]

I'm not dancing... you have been misrepresenting the reason why I posted that video... it's sad, really.

You still haven't answered my question, but simply avoided it (again). Yeah, sad.

 

[JacksBratt]

If they're telling the truth about going to the moon, why would you ASSUME they would have a reason to say otherwise?

You don't think that there would be consequences for the Apollo astronots... if they all of a sudden decided to tell the truth and say... well... it was Stanley Kubrick and it was all fake"?

A mere assumption on your part with no proof provided.

Pretty sure that there is proof of this. But, that's not this thread.

That suddenly matters now?

Sorry, but I had to check and YEP.. this thread is about " A question for FE people".

So.. have any of our posts been about anything but the FE and questions about it? Up until the whole Buzz ALdren thing?

Try to keep up.

 

[Aldebaran]

Glad to know your stance on this ...

You ...... never....... went to.... or... landed... on the moon.

There's also no such thing as orbiting satellites, no space station, no space probes, all pictures of earth are faked, as are pictures of other planets (even though we see them through store-bought telescopes set up in our own backyard), and rockets and space shuttles launched "into space" merely crash into the ocean.

Some people think all of this is easier to believe than what we can all see when we're willing to look.

 

[JacksBratt]

That's one of those questions that a bit of research can answer:

So, I'm guessing here.. but is it a military plane?

If so.. case solved... the pilot is a person controlled by rank and file and says what they are told to say.

 

[JacksBratt]

Glad to know your stance on this ...

You ...... never....... went to.... or... landed... on the moon.

LOL.. you will grasp an anything won't you..

Well, it has been used in many literary cases that the term "we" is a collective to describe mankind as a whole. Saying "we" never went to the moon could mean WE the USA. or WE mankind....

I was certain that you were of sufficient intellect to grasp the concept that I was not revering to myself.

 

[Aldebaran]

You don't think that there would be consequences for the Apollo astronots... if they all of a sudden decided to tell the truth and say... well... it was Stanley Kubrick and it was all fake"?

Your question is based on the ASSUMPTION that "it was Stanley Kubrick and it was all fake" is actually the truth. In order for it to be the truth, it needs to be proven. However, you don't provide that, and are clearly not interested in searching for the truth if you've already made up your mind about what the truth is:

Pretty sure that there is proof of this. But, that's not this thread.

You can be "pretty sure" all you want, but that's not exactly doing the "research" you claim to be doing.

 

[Aldebaran]

So, I'm guessing here.. but is it a military plane?

If so.. case solved... the pilot is a person controlled by rank and file and says what they are told to say.

That is a blanket condemnation of someone you've never met if I ever saw one.
Is that part of your "research" that you claim to still be doing since you claim you still haven't made up your mind about whether the earth is flat or round? If so, you might want to base your research on some new criteria.

 

[SPF]

You do realize that you can easily fake this.. you know.. the laser continuing to rise, by having the level pointing a little off of level?

What you cannot fake is making a perfectly level laser beam visible over a very long distance...

Like this:

ok, so now what we have is that the Discovery channel is in on the lie and that the video is faked.

I mean come on, apparently everything is faked if it doesn’t support FE.

 

[JackRT]

His claim that he is still making up his mind on the flat earth issue is quite disingenuous. It is obvious to all where his true allegiance lies.

 

[Aldebaran]

ok, so now what we have is that the Discovery channel is in on the lie and that the video is faked.

I mean come on, apparently everything is faked if it doesn’t support FE.

Looking back at post #534, he thinks any pilot in the military is a liar too.