There is no such belief in Hinduism. In general, the universe is viewed as being eternal and cyclic.
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Even the Hindus recognize matter and energy are from God.
You really don't know much about DNA, do you?Right but the DNA identifies them as the same species. The DNA from a chimp will identify it as a differen species.
Does it, now? How does it do that?You don't seem to understand that DNA identifes "kinds" of the same species and it also identifies species that are a different "kind." It cleary tells us the cats and dogs are different kinds.
Steady-state, I believe, and no, I wasn't implying that. I was merely pointing out the worthlessness of bare assertions.You're not implying the universe is solid-state are you?
(Or is it static-state? whatever.)
<mysterious voice> It is not what it seems. </mysterious voice>Then what's this?
Thank you ... I can't ever remember that for some reason.Steady-state,
LOL<mysterious voice> It is not what it seems. </mysterious voice>
I don't think she was implying that AV. A solid state universe was debunked long ago. The universe is expanding and the empirical evidence is overwhelming.
I dont see how that is.
Since I cant imagine what the cause of a deity of pure energy could be I have no reason to believe God has a cause. If He does, we are yet to find out.
It is said that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transformed. All physical forms of energy was transformed from God-energy.
In the form of God-energy, sure. No argument there.
Because my God is the only God there is.
Its a fact, not an assumption. God did it. Even the first humans knew that.
You're saying that, if we believe God is self-existent, then why don't we believe mass/energy could be self-existent as well?But regardless of that, if you assert that your god is without cause, simply because you "have no reason", then equally there is no reason that matter/energy has no cause...
You're saying that, if we believe God is self-existent, then why don't we believe mass/energy could be self-existent as well?
What you're asking us to do though, is shift the object of our faith from God to the universe; and that's not gonna happen.
Let me ask you this:
Do you believe that mass/energy is self-existent?
If not, is it okay with you if we don't believe it, either?
Even the Hindus recognize matter and energy are from God. They are just confused about who God really is.
Both Democrats and Republicans recognize Obama exists, but some of them are confused about who Obama really is.
This kind of confusion happens all the time all over the place.
The honest answer is 'I don't know'....
No....I'm pointing out a very basic logical fallacy...you make the (unsubstantiated) claim that everything exists must have a cause. Having established that 'rule', you immediately violate it by then asserting that your deity is exempt...! It's a piece of self-serving special pleading.....
You do understand that logically there had to be one causational event for the material things we see today or there would be an endless string of causes. We would also never have gotten to this present moment.
This first cause cannot itself by caused. It must be an infinite, eternally existing, uncaused force or being that set all other causes into motion.
Thats who God is by definition. He is eternal. He has always existed. He is uncaused. He has no beginning and no end. He is the cause of everything that exists.
You do understand that logically there had to be one causational event for the material things we see today or there would be an endless string of causes. We would also never have gotten to this present moment.
This first cause cannot itself by caused. It must be an infinite, eternally existing, uncaused force or being that set all other causes into motion.
Thats who God is by definition. He is eternal. He has always existed. He is uncaused. He has no beginning and no end. He is the cause of everything that exists.
Nonsense.....why could not matter/energy simply always been in existence?
Given what we are beginning to discover about quantum mechanics, why could they not have formed spontaneously from 'nothing'...?
Think again about quantum mechanics...like most people blinded by faith, you necessarily restrict your thinking to ONLY those outcomes which suit your purposes.....
You do understand that logically there had to be one causational event for the material things we see today or there would be an endless string of causes. We would also never have gotten to this present moment.
This first cause cannot itself by caused. It must be an infinite, eternally existing, uncaused force or being that set all other causes into motion.
That’s who God is by definition. He is eternal. He has always existed. He is uncaused. He has no beginning and no end. He is the cause of everything that exists.
There is nothing too seriously wrong with that idea. It just doesn't match well with what we call "reality". In the "reality" that we know, every result has a cause and nothing exists without a cause. Alternate realities may be different.
In the reality that we know, we don't tend to observe supernatural causes either, much less complex, immaterial, unembodied, intelligent agents.
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