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A new CF, an old vision (3)

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JAS4Yeshua

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While we are waiting for those catching up with the thread.......

Did anyone figured out who I am ?
Unless you used your old name sometime this year, I probably wouldn't know who you are. ;)
 
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This is a decision made by someone for me. When I signed onto staff it was because I was under the impression Erwin wanted to run a ministry. This is why many of us feel betrayed; we've been essentially tossed out with the dirty laundry in terms of the vision we thought we were signing onto.
The old version of the forum was a decision made by someone for a great number of the people here.

I believe Erwin does want to run a ministry. But he has now chosen a ministry with open doors and transparent windows instead of the old closed doors and darkly-curtained windows.

Perhaps Erwin simply got tired of he piles and piles of dirty laundry and decided to accept some ideas contrary to those who kept creating it.
 
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Message boads -whether Christian or otherwise should not be for people who do not have a point of view but rather criticise those that do
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
 
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No distinction among Christians from your perspective?

Yeah, right.
How do I know if a person next me is truly a Christian? I have learned so much about doctrines since I was a teen. To this day, I never met a Christian who agrees with my beliefs 100% and I also have not met a Christian who I agree with their beliefs 100%. Many people are defining "Christian" by their own doctrines, not the New Testament.
 
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Okay, so here is my giant fish story.

So, we made it to our little honey hole and the only thing that was biting were the tiniest brim, so small that they kept stealing our worms. Our hooks were too big, not that we wanted to catch those tiny fish, but they were able to nibble our worms right off the hook without getting hooked.

Anyway, the day was beautiful, and I was kind of daydreaming. There was a giant noise and I looked up and saw five squirrels chasing each in a tree across the little endlet where we were fishing. They were chattering and were so adorable.

Suddenly, I felt a tug on my line and I looked and my bobber thingie was completely underwater. I jerked and the bobber thingie was on top of water again, nothing on my line. A few seconds later, this HUGE fish, must have been a bass, at least 18 inches long, jumped out of the water right near my line just to show me what I had missed! It was incredible. I didn't know bass jumped like that. I swear that this is almost a true story.

Lisa
 
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I don't think anyone can take direct responsibility for the system as a whole.

Those of us on the liberal end bear some responsibility. We pressed for a lot of the legalism, at least to the degree that we kept asking for procedural safegaurds. We did so often because of the abuse and outright deceptiveness of previous generations of moderators. When you have mods outright lying, baiting members, and going after people for personal reasons, it's a problem. For those on the outside, one viable response is to press for rules and principles by which to hold those moderators responsible. We did that, and in many cases we got them. Add to this the shear number of people (primarily conservatives) pressing for rules restricting access to the subforums, stipulating what can and cannot be said, or who can and cannot use of this or that little icon, and you have people on both sides pressing for more rules. What you ended up with was way too cumbersome, regardless of its ideological orientation. The rules you had to work with were a joint effort by lots of people with no clear responsibility to any one person.

Whether or not Erwin's changes will help, I don't know either. But I actually doubt there will be half as much change in the authority structure of the place as most seem to think. It's still a Christian forum, and that alone will be enough to prevent most non-Christians from applying to leadership or heading into the Congregation forums. What's changed has less to do with what views will dominate the forum than the mechanisms available to express that domination.

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Would some of you folks with millions of rep points give a few hits to Brimmy, please?
 
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