A new CF, an old vision (2)

[Yeshuasteddy]

Around here, we are Christain defined the New Testament and the Gospel. Denominational doctrines make denominational followers.

unrelated double speak

 

[QuickandSilver]

Nice to know that you know Erwin so well & how is future will come to pass.

And Jesus seemed to know that hatred of Christian was going to be common, and that struggles were good in building you up.

The only hate I see being directed at Christians at the moment is coming from other Christians.

The only hate I have had directed at me at CF has come from Christians.

This is the fastest I have ever had my point validated!!!

 

[HesMyAll]

My opinion is that a Christian site should be moderated by Christians. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[MelzluvsJesus]

My opinion is that a Christian site should be moderated by Christians. Just my 2 cents worth.

amen...

 

[drstevej]

My opinion is that a Christian site should be moderated by Christians. Just my 2 cents worth.

The site no longer knows what a Christian is. Before you could check here: Be a Christian

How to Become a Christian

The central theme of the Bible is God's love for you and for all people. This love was revealed when Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came into the world as a human being, lived a sinless life, died on the cross, and rose from the dead. Because Christ died, your sins can be forgiven, and because He conquered death you can have eternal life. You can know for sure what will become of you after you die.

You have probably heard the story of God's love referred to as the "Gospel." The word Gospel simply means "Good News." The Gospel is the Good News that, because of what Christ has done, we can be forgiven and can live forever.

But this gift of forgiveness and eternal life cannot be yours unless you willingly accept it. God requires an individual response from you. The following verses from the Bible show God's part and yours in this process:

God's Love Is Revealed in the Bible

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." --John 3:16 (NIV)

God loves you. He wants to bless your life and make it full and complete. And He wants to give you a life which will last forever, even after you experience physical death.

We Are Sinful

"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." --Romans 3:23 (NIV)

You may have heard someone say, "I'm only human -- nobody's perfect." This Bible verse says the same thing: We are all sinners. We all do things that we know are wrong. And that's why we feel estranged from God -- because God is holy and good, and we are not.

Sin Has a Penalty

"For the wages of sin is death." --Romans 6:23 (NIV)

Just as criminals must pay the penalty for their crimes, sinners must pay the penalty for their sins. If you continue to sin, you will pay the penalty of spiritual death: You will not only die physically; you will also be separated from our holy God for all eternity. The Bible teaches that those who choose to remain separated from God will spend eternity in a place called hell.

Christ Has Paid Our Penalty!

"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." --Romans 5:8 (NIV)

The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ, the sinless Son of God, has paid the penalty for all your sins. You may think you have to lead a good life and do good deeds before God will love you. But the Bible says that Christ loved you enough to die for you, even when you were rebelling against Him.

Salvation Is a Free Gift

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -- and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God -- not by works, so that no one can boast." --Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)

The word grace means "undeserved favor." It means God is offering you something you could never provide for yourself: forgiveness of sins and eternal life, God's gift to you is free. You do not have to work for a gift. All you have to do is joyfully receive it, Believe with all your heart that Jesus Christ died for you!

Christ Is at Your Heart's Door

"Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me." --Revelation 3:20 (NIV)

Jesus Christ wants to have a personal relationship with you. Picture, if you will, Jesus Christ standing at the door of your heart (the door of your emotions, intellect and will). Invite Him in; He is waiting for you to receive Him into your heart and life.

You Must Receive Him

"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." --John 1:12 (NIV)

When you receive Christ into your heart you become a child of God, and have the privilege of talking to Him in prayer at any time about anything. The Christian life is a personal relationship to God through Jesus Christ. And best of all, it is a relationship that will last for all eternity.

Receiving Him Now

If you want to receive Jesus now, and accept His gift of salvation, it's a matter of believing in Jesus Christ, repenting of your sins, and turning the rest of your life over to Him. This is not a ritual based on specific words, but rather, a prayerful guideline for your sincere step of faith.

“Father, I know that I have broken your laws and my sins have separated me from you. I am truly sorry, and now I want to turn away from my past sinful life toward you. Please forgive me, and help me avoid sinning again. I believe that your son, Jesus Christ died for my sins, was resurrected from the dead, is alive, and hears my prayer. I invite Jesus to become the Lord of my life, to rule and reign in my heart from this day forward. Please send your Holy Spirit to help me obey You, and to do Your will for the rest of my life. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.”

If you decided to become a Christian today, welcome to God's family. Now, as a way to grow closer to Him, the Bible tells us to follow up on our commitment.

Get baptized as a public statement of your new faith in Christ.
Tell someone else about your new faith in Christ.
Spend time with God each day. It does not have to be a long period of time. Just develop the daily habit of praying to Him and reading His Word. Ask God to increase your faith and your understanding of the Bible.
Seek fellowship with other Christians. Develop a group of Christian friends to answer your questions and support you.
Find a local church where you can worship God.

If you are making this commitment to Christ today, please let us know by clicking here.

 

[Ramona]

My opinion is that a Christian site should be moderated by Christians. Just my 2 cents worth.

I've never seen any reason why what are now the Open forums shouldn't have non-Christian mods. I held this belief even when I was a Christian. Even as an apostate, I don't think that the now-CO forums should be modded by non-Christians, but I can't wait to elect some non-Christians to the basement forums. A lot of the most Christ-like people I've encountered here have been unorthodox and non-Christians.

 

[sparklecat]

Erwin did not say that whoever self-identifies as a Christian is, in fact, a Christian. He said that it's not our place to judge and tell someone they're not when we really can't know.

 

[geocajun]

Another thing to keep in mind is that Erwin appears to be setting up to use normal moderators and super moderators at CF.

In the vBulletin software, there are two types of moderators--normal and super. Normal moderators only have moderator powers in specific forums. When they browse another forum. they can't do anything that a regular user can't. Super moderators, on the other hand, can moderate any forum.

Currently, all moderators at CF are super moderators, which is somewhat abnormal. I think Erwin is going to change that

What this means as a practical matter is that if, say, an LDS poster was voted in as a moderator of an LDS forum, that person would not be able to moderate anyplace else.

I think the reason it isn't that way now, is its an administrative pain in the knee, but with the other administrative functions going away it may offset that.

 

[Ramona]

Erwin did not say that whoever self-identifies as a Christian is, in fact, a Christian. He said that it's not our place to judge and tell someone they're not when we really can't know.

I am glad that you pointed that out, birthday girl.

 

[RoseofLima]

Am I the only one who feels like interactions with people with viewpoints far different from my own really helps me to more deeply understand and put into practice my own faith and understanding of becoming Christ in the world??

If my faith is such that others opinions and viewpoints cause me to become defensive--then the problem is with me--and I might be far better off not being online at all. I find it far more fruitful in growing my faith and maturity ineracting with others who do not share each and every opinion and belief I hold...as that doesn't allow for growth or a challenge to deepen my understanding of why I believe what I believe.

 

[moonkitty]

Am I the only one amused that a lot of those memebers who said that they were so upset that they were going to leave are still here and mucking it out?

 

[Ramona]

Am I the only one who feels like interactions with people with viewpoints far different from my own really helps me to more deeply understand and put into practice my own faith and understanding of becoming Christ in the world??

If my faith is such that others opinions and viewpoints cause me to become defensive--then the problem is with me--and I might be far better off not being online at all. I find it far more fruitful in growing my faith and maturity ineracting with others who do not share each and every opinion and belief I hold...as that doesn't allow for growth or a challenge to deepen my understanding of why I believe what I believe.

Amen! I've never seen you around CF before, but thanks for your input here. Your views are much appreciated.

BTW I love the Specials too. I was singing "New Era" to myself at work today.

 

[Mankin]

I am not sure if allowing the atheists to post wherever they want is a good idea. I mean I see the point of allowing people to come to your church, but a lot of atheists just walk into forums wanting a fight. Not everyone wants to debate and I am not saying that all atheists want a fight. I am just a little worried with it, but not that worried. Now we will have more opurtunity to witness.

 

[Keri]

In my 18-28 group at church we were just talking about how more and more churches are becoming community centered, where things are voted on by the "people", rules are made more simple and less harsh. Where people come together to "discuss" religion and their interpretation, rather than being in a church to be taught from the Bible, the infallable Word of God and where rules are there and set by the Bible and are not changed. They were even saying that it's just straying more and more away from God and more and more on the "community" and to me that mirrors a communist society, which by what we've seen in history does not end well.

Members should not be allowed to vote on who's an supervisor or mod. It should be in place by the Admins and since this is a Christian forum, only Christians should be in the supervisory position. By allowing non-christians to take reign we are doing a dis-service to the purpose of this board... are we then going to be allowing non-christian to come into our church to rule over there? It is sad to see one thing told to me last night, then to see it happen here today.

 

[MelzluvsJesus]

I am glad that you pointed that out, birthday girl.

Yes, we can know...by their fruit. It is in the Word. But anyway, I guess I am going to see how this plays out. Should be interesting. Going to learn to duck fast so as not to get hit by the......................mud.

 

[*Starlight*]

The site no longer knows what a Christian is. Before you could check here: Be a Christian

Well, that definition is different than the definition in the rules. And CF doesn't really need a definition anyway... it's impossible to make one, because each Christian defines himself/herself as a follower of Christ.

 

[TheAntiLion]

I bet there is hell happening in the staff forums. I foresee a great exodus.

Oh My! He just said hell!!!

Oh, and one more thing. IIDB SUCKS! OH, and isn't it cool that it is 07/07/07? It won't happen for another thousand years, which is when everything will make sense, hopefully.

 

[drstevej]

Looks like P_G and NewMan have a new forum. Cool.

I omitted AngelAmidala's name. Sorry.

Man, that's 3/4 of voting Alpha.
Interesting.

 

[Picture.Of.Obedience]

Am I the only one amused that a lot of those memebers who said that they were so upset that they were going to leave are still here and mucking it out?

im pretty amused too

 

[ProdicalChristian]

Erwin did not say that whoever self-identifies as a Christian is, in fact, a Christian. He said that it's not our place to judge and tell someone they're not when we really can't know.

Around here, Christians are divided by defining Christians based on their own doctrinal teachings.