A new CF, an old vision (2)

[Ramona]

Finally, we aren't meant to have 'safe places'. We are going to be persecuted as Christians. If the worst we face is a bit of name calling and disagreement on an internet message board, then are we not getting off quite lightly?

Best three sentences in the thread.

 

[No Swansong]

I don't get it. What are you trying to say here?

My posts aren't clear?

If the membership votes on the staff then it will become a popularity contest. If the membership makes the rules then it will be majority rule.

 

[Zecryphon]

More like different views of the same Jesus, but there are already a lot of different opinions there. It's natural that people have different views, because we're not clones, and each person understands the world around him/her in a different way.

"More like different views of the same Jesus, but there are already a lot of different opinions there. It's natural that people have different views, because we're not clones, and each person understands the world around him/her in a different way."

But the views have to have a source that they draw from. If you're drawing from the Jesus depicted in the Bible, then you're going to see a certain Jesus. What it seems is going to happen though is that people are going to read into the scriptures what they want to see rather than what is there. It's called eisegesis and it's bad.

 

[*Starlight*]

"More like different views of the same Jesus, but there are already a lot of different opinions there. It's natural that people have different views, because we're not clones, and each person understands the world around him/her in a different way."

But the views have to have a source that they draw from. If you're drawing from the Jesus depicted in the Bible, then you're going to see a certain Jesus. What it seems is going to happen though is that people are going to read into the scriptures what they want to see rather than what is there. It's called eisegesis and it's bad.

But there are Christians who understand the Bible in different ways.

 

[Colabomb]

Jesus constantly retreated with his own friends from the pressures of hte world around him. He'd often go to a private place and spend time with his disciples and only his disciples.

There is a time to engage the world, and then there is a time to take a break from it.

 

[pgp_protector]

I know many are withholding financial support. I can't offset that much, but I've extended my site supporter status til 2016

Can't wait tell my next paycheck to re-up my SS Status.

 

[JacobHall86]

Nice to meet you too!

Come to think of it, maybe that's why I had the song stuck in my head this morning.



Dunno the words to that one. How about this?

"WAR! Huh! Good God, y'all!
What is it it good for? Absolutely NOTHING!"

War has NEVER solved anything............









































Except ending Slavery, Fascism, Communism and Nazism.

Maybe you should open up a History book instead of worrying about what popular songs are saying.

 

[ProdicalChristian]

Jesus constantly retreated with his own friends from the pressures of hte world around him. He'd often go to a private place and spend time with his disciples and only his disciples.

There is a time to engage the world, and then there is a time to take a break from it.

I am sure the Denominational Forums will be restricted to those who believe the doctrines. Other forums will be more open.

Anyway, my home and my local church is my sanctuary. Not CF.

 

[sparklecat]

Jesus constantly retreated with his own friends from the pressures of hte world around him. He'd often go to a private place and spend time with his disciples and only his disciples.

There is a time to engage the world, and then there is a time to take a break from it.

Given that the entire forum is open for the non-Christians to read, it's not exactly the most private place now.

 

[RestoreTheRiver]

Will some of those who are leaving because the modern disease of individualism as the measure of all things is just that--a disease--not the new standard of truth, please let me know where you're going?

I'm willing to try the new CF, I really am. But, I've left two other forums because there was no standard of what was true, and next to no standard of basic civility.
If that is what CF becomes, I will be very much interested to find a forum that understands and applies the basic principles of Scripture and Tradition; a forum that understands that there is, and shall ever be, much more to Christianity than "this is what I think."

I'll be happy to send my email address to anyone who requests it, for this purpose.

Peace and Blessings,

Michael

 

[Zecryphon]

Some archbishop said 'church is an organisation that exists for the beneift of those outside it'

Some Archbishop? Why should I believe him? Cuz he said so? I'm not interested in what some archbishop thinks, I'm interested in what you think. Your response still doesn't answer my question. Is church for the believers in Christ or for the seekers of Christ?

 

[Q]

I just hope Erwin will not lose all the faith in the members,before he makes the changes,I really ,really hope he will get the strenght to get through this .

"Actualy,Jehovah's witnesses take the bible and Jesus's teachings very seriously,and I have never heard of any violent act by them."

Yep, they take it so seriously that they had to write their own translation that differs in a lot of areas from the standard Christian ones.

Every bible was put together by people,translated by people,and is interpreted by people.

I don't agree with JW teachings,but the way they live,is from my experience a good example .

Erwin obviously thinks all the hate directed at Christians is very healthy, excellent chances to win those folks to Jesus.

Erwin's eyes will never see the reality.

Judging other is very easy...

My opinion is that a Christian site should be moderated by Christians. Just my 2 cents worth.

Well it is not working,many reasosn for that,one of them,Christians do not agree at all,they do not live what they preach..so why not try something new?

I think the people who have interest in the forums they would moderate,will make the best mods.
They will understand the needs of the specific forumknow many regular posters and their quirks,know signs of trolling,and also,as there will be mix from all the sides,ther ewill be a lesser chance of biased decisions to close threads,etc.

 

[No Swansong]

I am sure the Denominational Forums will be restricted to those who believe the doctrines. Other forums will be more open.

Anyway, my home and my local church is my sanctuary. Not CF.

Well actually according to Erwins post you are wrong there will be no denominational restriction whatsoever.

 

[he4rty]

Jesus constantly retreated with his own friends from the pressures of hte world around him. He'd often go to a private place and spend time with his disciples and only his disciples.

There is a time to engage the world, and then there is a time to take a break from it.

Just turn the computer off then, or Pm each other.

 

[CaDan]

Jesus constantly retreated with his own friends from the pressures of hte world around him. He'd often go to a private place and spend time with his disciples and only his disciples.

There is a time to engage the world, and then there is a time to take a break from it.

I'm not Jesus.

Neither are you.

 

[Abiel]

Some Archbishop? Why should I believe him? Cuz he said so? I'm not interested in what some archbishop thinks, I'm interested in what you think. Your response still doesn't answer my question. Is church for the believers in Christ or for the seekers of Christ?

Both.

 

[Da_Funkey_Gibbon]

I vote Erwin should get rid of icons altogether, just because that'd hammer what he is actually doing home.

We can still identify our faith in our sigs if we really want.

 

[Glass*Soul]

I am not sure if allowing the atheists to post wherever they want is a good idea. I mean I see the point of allowing people to come to your church, but a lot of atheists just walk into forums wanting a fight. Not everyone wants to debate and I am not saying that all atheists want a fight. I am just a little worried with it, but not that worried. Now we will have more opurtunity to witness.

I'm glad you're not too worried about it.

Isn't it just possible that the atheists and other non-Nicene-affirming members of this board have gotten an undue reputation for being unending debators due to having been forced to do virtually all of our substantive posting in the debate fora? When I joined, even fewer of the fora were open to me than are currently.

I think it is quite possible that the board will find that those who are the most skilled and active in the debate areas will prove to be surprisingly sensitive to the art of knowing when debate is not apprpopriate. I've seen Danhalen prove that about himself recently on another board where he has moderated and now is an administrator.

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On another note, I don't see it as inevitable that the moderator positions will become highly sought-after prizes involving campaigns and voting blocks! If the rules are as simplified as Erwin plans, then being a moderator will mean little more than the occassional janitorial clean-up. There will hardly be a great deal of status or power involved. If moderating for the content of our opinions is not one of the moderator duties, then it is the members, not the moderators, who will set the tone and direction of the discussions. I hope I'm not being too naive.

Also I'm curious as to whether we will see an upswing in non-Nicene-affirming members, as some seem to think we will. Why would that be? There are actually very few of us here after all these years. Why will there suddenly be hoards of us seeking and able to disrupt every one of thousands of topics?

 

[Colabomb]

I'm not Jesus.

Neither are you.

But Jesus is our Rabbi, our example. If he could take a bit of time now and then, shouldn't we?

He actually ran once from a crowd calling for healing. If the Son of God, can take a small break from his Duties.... I don't think us wanting a Christian forum is too ridiculous.

 

[Zecryphon]

But there are Christians who understand the Bible in different ways.

"But there are Christians who understand the Bible in different ways."

True, now how do we determine which interpretation is what the author intended for the audience? Hermeneutics is a place to start.