A liberal, on why Democrats Lost

[RileyG]

I took the first two jabs, then backed off when they started saying you had to get booster after booster to infinity and beyond.

I still got COVID anyway. Felt lousy for about 4 days.

I hope you recovered ok! God bless

 

[KCfromNC]

It really didn’t.

One of many opinions which, in order to take seriously, would require us to ignore the actual scientific research. I see no reason to do so.

 

[KCfromNC]

Do you find it a little odd that there were MORE excess deaths in the first year of vaccination than there were in the first year of the pandemic?

Do you find it a little odd your chart doesn't use yearly anniversaries of the vaccines first being available to a limited group of people (that last bit is a hint as to why this talking point is misleading).

 

[KCfromNC]

Odd how the “my body, my choice” crowd demanded everyone get vaccinated and wear a mask.

Perhaps they understood there was something different about a deadly disease which was being spread to vulnerable populations?

 

[probinson]

Do you find it a little odd your chart doesn't use yearly anniversaries of the vaccines first being available to a limited group of people (that last bit is a hint as to why this talking point is misleading).

Vaccines were not only readily available but MANDATED for people long before the first anniversary of their availability. Yet the mortality rate was nearly identical more than a year after BILLIONS of dollars worth of vaccine doses had been given.

You can pretend that's misleading all you like, but the fact of the matter is that mortality was almost exactly the same before vacation as it was more than a year after roughly 75% of the population had been vaccinated.

 

[Hammster]

One of many opinions which, in order to take seriously, would require us to ignore the actual scientific research. I see no reason to do so.

Yeah, because the scientists with skin in the game would never lie.

 

[RileyG]

Perhaps they understood there was something different about a deadly disease which was being spread to vulnerable populations?

Yes, I agree, sort of like for abortion kills an unborn child which I understand as wrong, and no, I do not accept so called pro choice logic, humans are humans. Period.

 

[RoBo1988]

I hope you recovered ok! God bless

I lost 15lbs from it. Found them again, later on

 

[RileyG]

I lost 15lbs from it. Found them again, later on

Happy to hear you’re doing ok!

 

[KCfromNC]

Yet the mortality rate was nearly identical more than a year after BILLIONS of dollars worth of vaccine doses had been given.

Your chart showed nothing about mortality rates. Data on that would look like this research, for example : Unveiling the Impact of COVID-19 Vaccines: A Meta-Analysis of Survival Rates Among Patients in the United States Based on Vaccination Status - PMC

The odds ratio (OR) for mortality among unvaccinated patients compared to vaccinated patients was 2.46 (95% CI: 1.71-3.53), indicating that unvaccinated patients were 2.46 times more likely to die from COVID-19.​

 

[KCfromNC]

Yeah, because the scientists with skin in the game would never lie.

At least not in any way posts like this can demonstrate.

 

[KCfromNC]

Yes, I agree, sort of like for abortion kills an unborn child which I understand as wrong, and no, I do not accept so called pro choice logic, humans are humans. Period.

You in favor of giving government assistance to the fetuses of pregnant illegal immigrants? After all, humans are humans, right?

 

[SeekFirst0]

As long as Dems continue to support abortion, the LGBTQ agenda, homosexuality, and a bunch of other ills, I can’t take them seriously at all. No signs of them wanting to stop support of those things.

 

[Yarddog]

Of course. The economy in general was and is good. The question is, who benefits? There were plenty of us on "the left" complaining that the tide wasn't lifting all the boats. But the Democrats weren't paying attention and the Republicans were blaming it on the Woke Monster. The question is, having secured the working class, what are the Republicans going to do about it?

I wouldn't say that the Republicans "secured" the working class.Those that shifted their vote can swing back if Democrats do a smarter job in what they support and do a better job of communicating.

Many middle class Americans were disillusioned, to put it nicely, by programs like paying off the student debt. This really angered Americans that worked hard to payoff their own children's education. They didn't want their tax dollars spent on paying off other people's debts.

Many were angered by the "defund police" protests which some Democratic Law makers either endorsed or were seemed to endorsed by attending marches.

Democrats have always been better with the economy than Republicans but Republicans are better at using mud slinging tactics to benefit their brand.

 

[Pommer]

As long as Dems continue to support abortion, the LGBTQ agenda, homosexuality, and a bunch of other ills, I can’t take them seriously at all. No signs of them wanting to stop support of those things.

It’s (still) a valid political position to limit other people’s freedom to live their lives as they themselves see fit, though it might not be as popular as it once was.