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A hypothetical

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I would think twice about giving any lessons in logic if I were you.

If a dog, then four legs.

Not a dog, so not four legs.

Doesn't work. A cat is not a dog, and it has four legs.

What does work:

If A then B

Not B, so not A.

You are right. My mistake.

This would FURTHER make the argument in the OP invalid.
 
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It started with Lucifer.

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

From the The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, by Douglas Adams:

Chapter 9

A computer chatted to itself in alarm as it noticed an airlock open
and close itself for no apparent reason.

This was because Reason was in fact out to lunch.

A hole had just appeared in the Galaxy. It was exactly a nothingth of
a second long, a nothingth of an inch wide, and quite a lot of million
light years from end to end.

As it closed up lots of paper hats and party balloons fell out of it
and drifted off through the universe. A team of seven three- foot-high
market analysts fell out of it and died, partly of asphyxication,
partly of surprise.

Two hundred and thirty-nine thousand lightly fried eggs fell out of it
too, materializing in a large woobly heap on the famine- struck land
of Poghril in the Pansel system.

The whole Poghril tribe had died out from famine except for one last
man who died of cholesterol poisoning some weeks later.

The nothingth of a second for which the hole existed reverberated
backwards and forwards through time in a most improbable fashion.
Somewhere in the deeply remote past it seriously traumatized a small
random group of atoms drifting through the empty sterility of space
and made them cling together in the most extraordinarily unlikely
patterns. These patterns quickly learnt to copy themselves (this was
part of what was so extraordinary of the patterns) and went on to
cause massive trouble on every planet they drifted on to. That was how
life began in the Universe.
 
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You are right. My mistake.

This would FURTHER make the argument in the OP invalid.

What argument? I'm just asking for how people would react if this situation were to happen. I'm not trying to discuss the science behind this at all (but I can see why this hypothetical can lead to it).
 
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Ya ... notice the OP ignored it?


Because how can you ever explain a non-random experiment created by an intelligent designer as being a random non-intelligent process?

So even "IF" (big word there) it ever happens (won't hold breath waiting) what could it prove but that it takes an intelligent designer to create life from non-life?
 
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Because how can you ever explain a non-random experiment created by an intelligent designer as being a random non-intelligent process?

So even "IF" (big word there) it ever happens (won't hold breath waiting) what could it prove but that it takes an intelligent designer to create life from non-life?
Indeedy-do! :thumbsup:

The question in the OP is really a no-brainer.
 
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What argument? I'm just asking for how people would react if this situation were to happen. I'm not trying to discuss the science behind this at all (but I can see why this hypothetical can lead to it).

Your question implied this logic:

Science is wrong, so God exists.
If science is right, then God does not exist?

This logic is invalid.
 
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Your question implied this logic:

Science is wrong, so God exists.
If science is right, then God does not exist?

This logic is invalid.

I never said that at all, nothing can disprove that God exists and nothing can prove that god exists.

And to the ID thing AV, I was just asking how people would react to this information. No need to be rude.
 
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Your question implied this logic:

Science is wrong, so God exists.
If science is right, then God does not exist?

This logic is invalid.

Actually her logic implied that if man was able to create life, then could one logically conclude God is the sole originator of life or even needed as an explanation.

I never said that at all, nothing can disprove that God exists and nothing can prove that god exists.

And to the ID thing AV, I was just asking how people would react to this information. No need to be rude.


We would react logically, that an intelligent designer creating life in the lab requires a, well, intelligent designer.

We would not react illogically and assume an intelligent designer creating life in the lab meant that such was a random process capable of being pure random chance, since such would require the fulfillment of specific orders of events in specific quantities, directly controlled by that intelligent designer.
 
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Actually her logic implied that if man was able to create life, then could one logically conclude God is the sole originator of life or even needed as an explanation.

If science can create life, it would still be no match with the process of having a baby. Humans have "produced" life since Adam. No big deal.
 
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I never said that at all, nothing can disprove that God exists and nothing can prove that god exists.

And to the ID thing AV, I was just asking how people would react to this information. No need to be rude.

You did not say that. Your OP implied that.
If not, what is the purpose of your question?
 
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If science can create life, it would still be no match with the process of having a baby. Humans have "produced" life since Adam. No big deal.

Well, I will agree with you in that whether or not humans can create life has no impact on how life originated or which theories are more likely.
 
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If science can create life, it would still be no match with the process of having a baby. Humans have "produced" life since Adam. No big deal.
Maybe someday we will BUILD a baby, and it will be better than the "natural" ones.
 
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Maybe someday we will BUILD a baby, and it will be better than the "natural" ones.
The Antichrist is going to beat you scientists to it.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
 
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