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"Do you drive?" That's a simple question. It wouldn't bother me, unless a "yes" then gets a reaction of surprise. Which it sometimes does. "Do you need a ride home?" Same thing, as long as "no, thank you, I drove," doesn't get that same surprised reaction.

What I repeatedly come up against is, "You don't drive, do you?" Or, "Oh. You drove here?" In the same tone of voice they'd use if I had flown there in a UFO. It's no big deal that others can drive. Why is it so shocking that I can?

This is just as offensive to me as it would be if people just naturally assumed I'm on disability and living in an adult group home. There is nothing *wrong* with that, if you need that assistance. But it isn't true for me, and if people kept thinking it was, I would want to know what signal I'm giving off that causes them to think it.
It's something else, an underlying implication maybe? They noticed your husband left without you. Emm, it's either, let's see if she needs a ride or something else ...???
Curious! Emm, what's going on with her ??? So maybe they are subtlety trying to find out why and so fish for an answer, a piece of the puzzle.
Then, it disturbs you because you think that's exactly what they are doing and maybe they think something is wrong with your marriage. ( I don't know, just grasping here).
People are busy bodies, nosy, gossipers, etc.
But it could just be an act of kindness, "I'll offer her a ride if she needs one!" ... a totally innocent caring question. ?? Then some people don't like to be questioned about anything.
 
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I have Crohn’s Colitis, so trust me, the idea of fluctuating illness? I totally get that.

With my “midair miracle,” I had to fly from Ft Lauderdale to Orlando. On my first flight (Connecticut to Florida), I got horribly, horribly sick. I think food poisoning made worse by the IBD. I spent most of the flight laying in the back row by the bathrooms. I was in and out, seriously, every 10 minutes the whole flight. When we landed, I got a wheelchair and sat by the bathrooms while my husband bought every version of Pepto, Imodium, and anything GI related. Liquid. Chewable. Sublingual. He spent $50 on meds to try and get me through the 30-45 minute flight.

By the time my puddle jumper flight was getting ready to board, things had slowed down, but I wasn’t feeling great. I was loaded first so I could be right by the bathroom. When I was seated and the flight attendant told me I couldn’t get up after the plane left the gate until 15 minutes in-air and I couldn’t leave my seat “no matter what” 15 minutes before landing and until the plane was at the gate (on a 45ish minute flight), I cried. I prayed the whole flight and by the blessing of God, I was holding it together...

Until the plane was like 5 minutes from landing. I needed to get up, but I couldn’t. Then the flight attendants said that if we were wheeled in, we had to be wheeled out... And the wheelchairs weren’t at the gate so we’d have to wait until the plane had emptied.

Um, nope.

I told the attendants I didn’t need it, I couldn’t wait, I was going to get up, I was scolded. Front bathroom after the seatbelt sign went off and then wheelchair. That’s all I could do. Getting sick trapped in that little room as an entire plane marched by? I’m sorry, the chances of Walt Disney meeting us at the gate was higher than the chances of me doing that. I know Orlando airport like the back of my hand and knew EXACTLY where the bathroom was (I have IBD... I know where every bathroom is...)... I told my husband to take my stuff, I was going to make a run for the door when they turned off the seatbelt sign.

That sign went off and I sprinted like there was money to be had for the first person off the plane. I was out that door, up the jetway, hard left to the bathroom, cut the whole line of people waiting and DOVE into a stall in less than 45 seconds. The only thing missing was the dust cloud and skidmarks like the Road Runner leaves when he takes off.

My husband eventually caught up, but apparently he got a full scolding from the flight attendants for my behavior.

Then, a week or two later, I read an article about “midair miracles,” including an experience on the writer’s trip to Disney World where he and his poor family struggled to wait in line, board, find a seat, had to sit in the back, and get through the flight, meanwhile, he walked by an able bodied woman in her 20s who was on deaths door when the flight loaded... She came in on a wheelchair and was the first on in the best seat by the front, but “quite literally ran off the plane when it landed.” He write I was probably already in the parks and having a blast while he and the children the park was built for we’re still stuck on the plane. And I probably feigned illness to get on the rides first too.

I’m sympathetic since I know how it looked and I know how hard traveling with kids is... But the only midair miracle that occurred was that I didn’t embarrass myself on the plane. But I read that and showed it to my husband and that, along with other details, has us both convinced he was talking about me.
 
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I dont know how big your church is, but if they have a good sense of humour, maybe ask for them to put it in the church bulletin. You would never have to be bpthered again. Now see I have a license, but people just dont like me driving if it is out of town. But I am sorry it irritates you. Maybe God allows it to teach you patience.
 
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OK, this one is going to be tricky. Honestly, I don't expect anyone to have a good answer. The issue bugs the liver out of me, but I'll try to be light-hearted and positive about it.

It has come up three times now, within the past month. Maybe my husband and I have separate places to go after church, so we'll arrive in different vehicles. Last time that happened, two different people approached me after my husband left. "How are you getting home?" They were then surprised to find out that in fact, I drove myself there, and I can drive myself home too.

Then last Sunday, a lady was telling me about a ladies' event this upcoming Saturday, and then tossed in, "Oh, but you don't drive, do you?"

Grrrr.

Yes, it's true I came into driving later in life, for complicated reasons. But I have been licensed for five years now. I cleared that hurdle a long time ago. When people just assume without asking that I probably can't do this or that, it makes me wonder what other assumptions they're making about me. Is it my intelligence or my general competence that they're questioning? Why does it REMAIN a big fat hairy surprise to people that I can drive? Would they ask somebody else the same question? What signal am I sending off that makes them think I'm incapable?

Do I have to make an announcement in the church bulletin that yes, I can drive?

You could walk around jiggling your keys as an indirect way of reminding people that you have a car and make sure it is really your keys and not your husbands (ie have a big key chain that is definitely not your husband's and is uniquely yours). Then when they ask you "Oh, but you don't drive, do you?" (or whatever) you pull out your keys with a big bold keychain that is your style and say "these are definitely not my husband's keys"
 
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We just say something like 'Well, ever since the argument.....' and leave it hanging. This Sunday we went to a diff church, and someone we hadn't seen for ages asked why we were there. The obvious answer was 'ever since that incident where we caused the church split we've been looking for somewhere we'd be welcome' just a subtle way of saying butt out!
 
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I have this weird problem where everyone who meets me automatically assumes I'm an orphan. Or has a hard time believing I'm White. Not kidding.

Some people make weird assumptions which might feel unkind. They probably are drawing untrue conclusions, but it's better to not dwell on it. You know you can drive, you're probably a much better driver than me, and if they keep insisting that maybe you can't drive, drive onto their lawn at seven in the morning honking your horn, crying out "hey, guys, here's my car!"

Or not. That might be dramatic and illegal. But they'd never ask you again.
 
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I have this weird problem where everyone who meets me automatically assumes I'm an orphan. Or has a hard time believing I'm White. Not kidding.

Some people make weird assumptions which might feel unkind. They probably are drawing untrue conclusions, but it's better to not dwell on it. You know you can drive, you're probably a much better driver than me, and if they keep insisting that maybe you can't drive, drive onto their lawn at seven in the morning honking your horn, crying out "hey, guys, here's my car!"

Or not. That might be dramatic and illegal. But they'd never ask you again.
Yes! You also have a crazy sense of humour
 
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a lady was telling me about a ladies' event this upcoming Saturday, and then tossed in, "Oh, but you don't drive, do you?"

You can be straightforward: "yes, I do" or "who told you that?" or "I drive whenever it's too far to walk"

Or you can try humour: "normally I don't, but my horse died yesterday" or "I'm driving this weak because my rocket ship broke down" or "you mean that thing is a car? I wondered why it wouldn't take off."
 
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More to the point what is our Lord Jesus Christ telling "us" through your experience?

- perhaps never to make assumptions in relation to other people, never to judge for God is our Righteous Judge, to see the good in others whom have offered to assist us and of whom are assisting others through Him, (not lecturing this is a reminder for me), and not to be annoyed, because our Blessed Holy Trinity and through Holy Mother Mary works through these good hearted people whether they have assumed or not

Or perhaps our Lord Jesus Christ wants you to offer someone in your Church a lift to Church?

God The Most Highs Tests - have we failed or have we passed

Pretty much everything that has ever annoyed me about anyone else is our Blessed Holy Trinity showing me either sins I have committed during my life prior to Holy Confession, certain tests God is testing me on in order to love and serve Him more from my heart and accept all others loving them and being compassionate and merciful and forgiving, and or that I need to be out helping many many more people with the Holy Gifts, Holy Blessings and Holy Graces God has given me in His Mercy and not to squander these and to see the good in all of my brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ no matter what.

All the best in our Lord Jesus Christ in Holy Spirit and in Holy Mother Mary
 
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OK, this one is going to be tricky. Honestly, I don't expect anyone to have a good answer. The issue bugs the liver out of me, but I'll try to be light-hearted and positive about it.

It has come up three times now, within the past month. Maybe my husband and I have separate places to go after church, so we'll arrive in different vehicles. Last time that happened, two different people approached me after my husband left. "How are you getting home?" They were then surprised to find out that in fact, I drove myself there, and I can drive myself home too.

Then last Sunday, a lady was telling me about a ladies' event this upcoming Saturday, and then tossed in, "Oh, but you don't drive, do you?"

Grrrr.

Yes, it's true I came into driving later in life, for complicated reasons. But I have been licensed for five years now. I cleared that hurdle a long time ago. When people just assume without asking that I probably can't do this or that, it makes me wonder what other assumptions they're making about me. Is it my intelligence or my general competence that they're questioning? Why does it REMAIN a big fat hairy surprise to people that I can drive? Would they ask somebody else the same question? What signal am I sending off that makes them think I'm incapable?

Do I have to make an announcement in the church bulletin that yes, I can drive?
You say that you came into driving later in life so it would be natural for people that you haven't seen in some time not to know that you have a license now. I wonder why it even bothers you? Maybe instead of questioning others you should examine yourself. Maybe you may find out something about yourself which you can improve upon. Does your church have a counseling minister?
 
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You say that you came into driving later in life so it would be natural for people that you haven't seen in some time not to know that you have a license now. I wonder why it even bothers you? Maybe instead of questioning others you should examine yourself. Maybe you may find out something about yourself which you can improve upon. Does your church have a counseling minister?
Not one set up specifically for counseling, but I probably will discuss the problem with a pastor or deacon.

Many people in this thread have picked up on the correct point that there is a larger issue. It's people thinking that disabled is the same thing as helpless, and if you have one disability, you have all of them. Again it's not JUST assuming I don't drive. It's also, as pointed out farther down in the thread, incidents like the one lady assuming I can't turn the pages in a hymnal by myself. I'm also getting support from people on my own Facebook page who deal with the same problem. One friend has cerebral palsy and has a lot of trouble getting people to not treat him like he's a toddler.
 
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I only read the OP and none of the replies, but I will say, I feel you. People make assumptions about me that lead me to believe that they think I am incapable or incompetent. I don't know what signal I send that gives them this impression, but it's there. For instance, one time I offered to bring some sauteed green beans to a family dinner, but then I got the flu and had to stay home. A month later, there was another family dinner and I told my mother-in-law that I would make the green bean dish. She said to me, "The SAME green beans??? Aren't they rotten by now???" And I was like, "Um, no, I'm going to buy fresh ingredients and cook it fresh..." LOL. She makes comments like this often, and I can't tell why that is.

In your situation, I would just answer matter-of-factly and leave it at that. "Yes, I drive and have a car," and that's it. Their opinions and judgments don't matter (even if it is annoying, which I 100% understand).
 
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I get you on being told stuff you know already, mainly because they're basic common sense things most four-year-olds would know already. I once worked as a cashier in a grocery store. I was ringing up a customer who was buying a helium balloon. He had tied a candy bar to the string, to weight it down. I rung up both the balloon and the candy bar and set it aside to take care of the rest of his purchase. A co-worker came running up to me all aflutter and told me not to let go of that balloon, or it would float away--then she saw it was weighted down, and that I had the situation under control. To this day I wonder why she thought a grown woman would have to be told what a helium balloon does. I've also been given such earth-shatteringly surprising information as the fact that milk sours when it's not refrigerated.
 
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I get you on being told stuff you know already, mainly because they're basic common sense things most four-year-olds would know already. I once worked as a cashier in a grocery store. I was ringing up a customer who was buying a helium balloon. He had tied a candy bar to the string, to weight it down. I rung up both the balloon and the candy bar and set it aside to take care of the rest of his purchase. A co-worker came running up to me all aflutter and told me not to let go of that balloon, or it would float away--then she saw it was weighted down, and that I had the situation under control. To this day I wonder why she thought a grown woman would have to be told what a helium balloon does. I've also been given such earth-shatteringly surprising information as the fact that milk sours when it's not refrigerated.
I'm tempted to rate that "funny", but don't want to sound unkind, but it *is* funny that people would assume you didn't realize those things.

I think, Birds, that these people are making assumptions about your intellectual abilities. I have no idea why. Perhaps they assume that mild physical impairment automatically pairs up with an intellectual disability. You could be offended and annoyed or try to see it as "at least they care". Some folks struggle with unseen challenges; depression, grief, marital issues, post-traumatic stress, and sorrow. No one can see those difficulties, but they can make functioning normally difficult.

I know it's likely maddening to have people treat you like you're two. I don't know quite what that feels like. But your options for responding are either to take offense and feel irritated or frustrated, or let it go, and try to see the good behind their silly assumptions. They care, they're trying to help. It may feel annoying, but you know what you can and can't do, better than anyone else.
 
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I've also been given such earth-shatteringly surprising information as the fact that milk sours when it's not refrigerated.

It does? No wonder my milk never seems to last. :sunglasses:

No, seriously, I can imagine that all this is really annoying. Lord, save us from well-meaning idiots.

I'm not sure what advice to give, actually. I'd have much less patience than you.
 
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OK, this one is going to be tricky. Honestly, I don't expect anyone to have a good answer. The issue bugs the liver out of me, but I'll try to be light-hearted and positive about it.

It has come up three times now, within the past month. Maybe my husband and I have separate places to go after church, so we'll arrive in different vehicles. Last time that happened, two different people approached me after my husband left. "How are you getting home?" They were then surprised to find out that in fact, I drove myself there, and I can drive myself home too.

Then last Sunday, a lady was telling me about a ladies' event this upcoming Saturday, and then tossed in, "Oh, but you don't drive, do you?"

Grrrr.

Yes, it's true I came into driving later in life, for complicated reasons. But I have been licensed for five years now. I cleared that hurdle a long time ago. When people just assume without asking that I probably can't do this or that, it makes me wonder what other assumptions they're making about me. Is it my intelligence or my general competence that they're questioning? Why does it REMAIN a big fat hairy surprise to people that I can drive? Would they ask somebody else the same question? What signal am I sending off that makes them think I'm incapable?

Do I have to make an announcement in the church bulletin that yes, I can drive?
Why not laugh and tell them that you come in separate vehicles because of after church committments? Why not simply try the truth?
 
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Why not laugh and tell them that you come in separate vehicles because of after church committments? Why not simply try the truth?
That was the first line, of course, but then the reaction was, "Oh. You can DRIVE?" As part of the larger picture, this was the source of the frustration.

I'm going to ask other staff to close this thread now, since I believe it has run its course. Thanks to everyone for their input. Until it's closed, please feel free to say what you wish, but it might be closed at any time.
 
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That was the first line, of course, but then the reaction was, "Oh. You can DRIVE?" As part of the larger picture, this was the source of the frustration.

I'm going to ask other staff to close this thread now, since I believe it has run its course. Thanks to everyone for their input. Until it's closed, please feel free to say what you wish, but it might be closed at any time.
OK, I guess I would pause and say, "well, yes of course since we come in separate cars."
 
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*giggle* You hit on one thing. Most of the congregation is a good twenty or so years older than we are. Anybody under 60 is in the minority. Hubby is 55 and looks it. I'm 54 and look younger. But I seriously doubt that's the entire issue. I may look younger than 54, but I'm sure I don't look younger than 15. I don't think they're assuming I'm simply not old enough to drive. (And they do know that this man they see me with, who looks every bit of his 55, is my *husband*, not my *father.*)

If you get a speeding ticket thumb tack it to the bullentin board theres a good chance by months end
The conversation want be do you drive but when will you be able to drive again :) in the big picture does it really matter
Your congregation is entering the stage where sickness and pain is quiet real and some will be leaving
Loved ones to be with the Lord you getting your license late may well be a Blessing in itself you may be taxing to and from Hospitals and helping out the Congregation that way who knows.
Dont sweat the small stuff and use deodorant. GOD Bless
 
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I agree that people probably remember that you didn't drive before and never noticed that you currently do. It's an understandable error, and they were kind to ask if you needed help.

The bigger issue is that you said that this has been happening all your life. So there is one common denominator. What do you think makes people respond to you in this way? What behaviors do you exhibit that would lead others to think you need help? When you really look at yourself through the eyes of others, what do you see?

I think you mentioned that you have no idea why this has always happened to you. If so, then in your shoes I would ask a trusted friend that you know will tell you the truth. Clearly there is something in what you do that inspires others to try to assist you. Instead of getting annoyed at others who are trying to do a nice thing, I would look to myself to see what behavior I could modify to avoid the notion that I need help all the time.
 
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