A gloomy prophetic word from John Kilpatrick

[gratefulgrace]

I do not believe it is by husktering but by believing in prayer that God will supply all their needs according to His riches in glory. George Muller never asked for money to support the ministry God gave him with orphans. He trusted God to supply and accepted what God sent. I am not saying that selling a record or a book to help raise funds for a ministry is wrong per se, it is just in this case with something so apparently essential for the body of Christ to know to me it seems very wrong to tease people into believing they are missing out by not buying the product.

 

[KleinerApfel]

A bag of rice or beans won't be any use if the scenario is as bad as he's predicting anyway.
Water would be the main concern.
I won't go into details of what that would mean, it's gruesome and I think we've heard enough fearmongering already.

Of course it is possible that an earthquake of major effect might happen in a known fault line at any time soon, but to say that it's the will of God because He's mad at us is to misunderstand His nature and New Covenant.

 

[Floatingaxe]

A bag of rice or beans won't be any use if the scenario is as bad as he's predicting anyway.
Water would be the main concern.
I won't go into details of what that would mean, it's gruesome and I think we've heard enough fearmongering already.

Of course it is possible that an earthquake of major effect might happen in a known fault line at any time soon, but to say that it's the will of God because He's mad at us is to misunderstand His nature and New Covenant.

These things occur not because of the anger of God, but because of the principle of reaping and sowing that He set in motion.

 

[imperfectchristian]

just a question out of curiosity - how ARE ministers supposed to support themselves and their families?

Indulgences.

 

[Tobias]

just a question out of curiosity - how ARE ministers supposed to support themselves and their families?

"Hi, did you know you are going to hell for all eternity???

So, what are you willing to pay me to tell you the plan of salvation??"



The Evangelist's Union has a lot to do to reign in all the evangelizing done by scab workers. But, if done right, this idea could really boost the financial security of the whole Church!

Good idea, no???

 

[EyezOFire]

This is my opinion- I have a hard time with people who say these sort of things, I have a hard time anymore believing people like Kim Clement or Rick Joyner. I do believe they have some valid things to say, but it's all the self promotion that really spoils it. And if it's going to be really bad, why isnt God telling everyone. The word says we are all his children. Why would he just tell one brother or sister, wouldnt He tell the whole family ? Yes I do believe America is heading fast down the tubes but this isnt a overnight thing this has been years and years in the making. It's not been because they have removed prayer from schools. Or because they've taken the 10 commandments out of public places. It's not because of abortion. It's been because of greed and selfish ambitions on the behalf of politicians, and bankers. It's happening because people are sinful and following after the lust of their flesh.

 

[Elijah2]

This is my opinion- I have a hard time with people who say these sort of things, I have a hard time anymore believing people like Kim Clement or Rick Joyner. I do believe they have some valid things to say, but it's all the self promotion that really spoils it. And if it's going to be really bad, why isnt God telling everyone. The word says we are all his children. Why would he just tell one brother or sister, wouldnt He tell the whole family ? Yes I do believe America is heading fast down the tubes but this isnt a overnight thing this has been years and years in the making. It's not been because they have removed prayer from schools. Or because they've taken the 10 commandments out of public places. It's not because of abortion. It's been because of greed and selfish ambitions on the behalf of politicians, and bankers. It's happening because people are sinful and following after the lust of their flesh.

Ah, my dear brother, so much TRUTH in a few words.

Why would our Almighty God, our Lord Jesus Christ, our Saviour, our Lord and Master, would only confide in so many false prophets, particularly those thousands who churn out prophecy like bubble gum, sweet and sticky, and NOT ONE has ever come to pass, but their building fund increased in wealth.

Blessings.

 

[Elijah2]

A bag of rice or beans won't be any use if the scenario is as bad as he's predicting anyway.
Water would be the main concern.
I won't go into details of what that would mean, it's gruesome and I think we've heard enough fearmongering already.

Of course it is possible that an earthquake of major effect might happen in a known fault line at any time soon, but to say that it's the will of God because He's mad at us is to misunderstand His nature and New Covenant.

I had a revelation that from the day that financial tsunami began I could see a famine of food, I could see many dieing in the Asian countries, China, and mass unemployment.

By the end of this year there is going to be an extreme shortage of food throughout the world.

You can see the destructive phase right now as the politicians run around in circles like chooks with their head cut off, putting their countries further and further into debt, saying they are only doing that to stimulate growth.

The land is getting bare, the crops are failing, and the costs are spiralling; all of these are the momentum of a "famine".

Mark my words my dear brothers and sisters, I don't have to be a Kim Clement, or Rick Joyner, or like any of these other false prophets who work in the flesh.

Blessings.

 

[Floatingaxe]

The sky is falling! LOL!

 

[Rising SON]

Indulgences.

hehehe,yup.Alot of ministers never quote verses out of both Corinthian letters,and both Thess letters,and acts 20,how Paul also worked,and so did Barnabas.

 

[heron]

The sky is falling! LOL!

No silly, those are Tennessee blues goin' down.

David Wilkerson Today: AN URGENT MESSAGE

Thanks for the link.

When the New Madrid fault shook around 1812, it was felt in Massachusetts. The aftershocks went on for several years.

I had a vision last year that wouldn't let go, and it related to an area that could possibly be impacted if the New Madrid shuffles.

 

[Rising SON]

There are warninings about false prophets,and ministers,and one of the signs in their love of money.

2 Peter 2:14
They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin. They entice unsteady souls. They have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children!


2 Peter 2:3
3And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

It is old..even from the days of Paul.

Amplified Bible (AMP)
1 Tim 6:5
And protracted wrangling and wearing discussion and perpetual friction among men who are corrupted in mind and bereft of the truth, who imagine that godliness or righteousness is a source of profit [a moneymaking business, a means of livelihood]. From such withdraw.


2 Timothy 3

Godlessness in the Last Days

1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,

Take heed,and be aware of seducing spirits..

1 Timothy 4

Instructions to Timothy

1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

 

[heron]

After reading the Wilkerson link, I think I need to relay what I saw last year (the year before??).

These are photos from Japan, but have the same look of what I saw -- but these had more buildings and signs of life. I saw total destruction of a large region, south of Lake Ontario several miles south from the coast. There were no signs of people or houses -- just the smoking trees sticking up. Total grey, as though it were coated in ash.

I am not looking for feedback -- just using this opportunity to present more possible information during a discussion on the topic.

I had a sense that it could happen in late spring, not certain, but then late spring came and went safely. Fortunately of course!

The vision came to mind nearly every day for about two months.

 

[gratefulgrace]

So what do we do? All move to Mexico?

 

[Rising SON]

So what do we do? All move to Mexico?

No,way to much crime there.Try Montana!

 

[ANM29]

You will learn what it means to walk by faith and trust God alone. There is nothing gloomy about it. It is God himself applying the FIRE. This is the only way he will get the attention of the world and most of all the CHURCH....It is the leading up to many things to come. Those who think they will fly away in the sky, are mistaken, the CHURCH will be here, and will be purified through the fires of what will happen.

 

[ydouxist]

You will learn what it means to walk by faith and trust God alone. There is nothing gloomy about it. It is God himself applying the FIRE. This is the only way he will get the attention of the world and most of all the CHURCH....It is the leading up to many things to come. Those who think they will fly away in the sky, are mistaken, the CHURCH will be here, and will be purified through the fires of what will happen.

You go girl!!!

 

[Child-of-Zion]

I find it beyond disgusting that one would use a word from the Lord to make money. This man may have had a true revelation; maybe he did. If that is the case, the irony is that one of the many reasons for God's judgment coming on this nation is the very thing he is doing; loving money more than ministering to those who can't afford it!

Keith Green was a worship leader who gave worship concerts for free because at one point in his walk he felt deep conviction from the Holy Spirit. He said that nobody should ever have to pay for ministry; EVER. Sadly he was killed when he was still young but his legacy lives on. He was a man with a passion for holiness. Far be it from him to make money off of ministry! It'd be nice if more people thought like that today.

 

[gratefulgrace]

No,way to much crime there.Try Montana!

Sorry too cold. gg

 

[gratefulgrace]

I find it beyond disgusting that one would use a word from the Lord to make money. This man may have had a true revelation; maybe he did. If that is the case, the irony is that one of the many reasons for God's judgment coming on this nation is the very thing he is doing; loving money more than ministering to those who can't afford it!

Keith Green was a worship leader who gave worship concerts for free because at one point in his walk he felt deep conviction from the Holy Spirit. He said that nobody should ever have to pay for ministry; EVER. Sadly he was killed when he was still young but his legacy lives on. He was a man with a passion for holiness. Far be it from him to make money off of ministry! It'd be nice if more people thought like that today.

AMEN